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Inquiry on: Jamal Griffin / [email protected]

Last Post On This I Promise

This topic is getting old and I'm only posting this message at Jamal's request. He obviously still doesn't get it. The following was Private messaged to me.

03-22-2005, 10:29 PM
moose11
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Buffalo ny
Posts: 12
Name : jamal griffin
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see u kepp saying thing that are not true the people who i am selling these for know that i am beacuse they have asked me to so dont saythings that u dont know make sure u post this on the boi
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My question directly to you Jamal is, WHY DON'T YOU POST HERE DIRECTLY TO DEFEND YOURSELF? You obviously have access to a computer. I believe if you request permission from Webslave you can post here for up to 30 days. All you need do is write him stating you wish to participate in this thread about you and he will allow you to. This is my final advice to you. I've heard and seen enough to come to my own conclusions and I think 99.99% of anyone else here with a brain has too. :toiletcla
 
Now You've Got Me Lying

I said I wasn't going to post anymore but I just realized you do have access to post here, DUH. Seems to be rubbing off. :>poke2<:
 
LOL......that kid is a few coconuts short of a luau. He just keeps trying and trying. I have never seen such a sloppy scammer.
 
Greg didnt need to post for Jamal, He does have his own Name he he goes by MOOSE11 and from what I'm seeing is he has alot of snakes up for sale on this site ........So this brings to mind, Does he have all of these or is he selling for other people???? If he has them, then he he must get a kick to the butt allowance and I want to be adopted by his dad :) ....If hes selling them for other people then he needs to change the style of his ad (ex) I'm selling ******* for a friend of mine, the way he is doing this now will end up biting him in the butt big time.......If he does have them then I want an invite to see these snakes ....I'm only 2 hrs away from Buffalo......Then these snakes will be at my house :rofl:
 
my reply

i am sorry that some of u have the idea that i am out to scam u but i am not i have updated pictures of all the animals that i am selling i have made sells on here and plan on doing more it fine that u gies dont trust me if u gies think i am a scamer so much buy something see how the deal goes i bet u that u would love what ur getting and would buy from me again i am not here to scam anyone i am here to sell to meet new people who like the things that i do i am here to learn to things help out other herpers not to scam anyone i am here to mke trades buy new things
 
come on by bill

to bill i dont mind if u come check out what i have there is nothing wrong with that i am find by it so come on by
 
greg riso

to greg riso thank you for post that for me but yesterday when i told u i could in post on here i really could in but now i am so if u gies want to ask me anything i will be on all day posting replys
 
moose11 said:
i am sorry that some of u have the idea that i am out to scam u but i am not i have updated pictures of all the animals that i am selling i have made sells on here and plan on doing more it fine that u gies dont trust me if u gies think i am a scamer so much buy something see how the deal goes i bet u that u would love what ur getting and would buy from me again i am not here to scam anyone i am here to sell to meet new people who like the things that i do i am here to learn to things help out other herpers not to scam anyone i am here to mke trades buy new things
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I think what is being over looked here is the fact that he is a Kid (N/O) and as that he is we are looking at this all wrong.....ok I'm not saying that him selling someone else’s snake is right it isn’t.......no how no way .....But if the snakes that he does have are really in his care then wouldn't it be fair to give him a shot???? and if he sold on here maybe somebody that bought from him come here and say so......I know I’m going out on a limb here but we were all kids at one point.....before the internet rip offs so in closing, I'm say unless we know for sure that he is scamming anyone then lets just back off the word scam and use inexperienced, Jamal, I’m not saying you do or don’t have these snakes your selling, that’s really not up to me to prove and thanks for the offer but at this point I have to go with my gut and my gut tells me that time will prove you out :)
 
moose11 said:
i am sorry that some of u have the idea that i am out to scam u but i am not i have updated pictures of all the animals that i am selling i have made sells on here and plan on doing more it fine that u gies dont trust me if u gies think i am a scamer so much buy something see how the deal goes i bet u that u would love what ur getting and would buy from me again i am not here to scam anyone i am here to sell to meet new people who like the things that i do i am here to learn to things help out other herpers not to scam anyone i am here to mke trades buy new things
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Umm...Jamal, here's a hint if you want to be taken seriously. Consult a spell checker before you post here or any other site. I'm not referring to simple typos. We all make those.

Most adults see the use of "u" instead of "you" to be a sign of laziness. Abbreviating simple three letter words is, in fact, lazy. It's "guys" not "gies". It's "sales" not "sells".

moose11 said:
to greg riso thank you for post that for me but yesterday when i told u i could in post on here i really could in but now i am so if u gies want to ask me anything i will be on all day posting replys
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"couldn't" not "could in", "replies" not "replys", etc.

A little punctuation and complete sentences would help too. You may be very real and very honest and even very cool, but so long as you write very poorly few adults with any money will take you seriously.

Jamal, I mean this in all seriousness. You won't be taken seriously with writing like that.

Now, explain to us if you would why you had an adult pastel ball python that you were willing to trade for a younger pastel ball python. Most of us thought that was suggestive of a scam. Perhaps you can clear that up for us.
 
Jamal, that is good. But can you explain this?
slitherstuderik said:
I knew something wasnt right about him. I will post the pics he sent me and the NERD paper work, the paperwork was sent to me via Adobe Acrobat Document. The pics are from 9-2-03. Also He wanted to trade for my baby male pastel. Why on EARTH would anyone want to trade an adult BREEDABLE pastel for a baby???? Something just didnt feel right. I dont think that that ball in any way even represents a pastel. Also if he did buy this "Pastel" back in 02', it wouldnt have been cheap. How much were pastels going for back in 02'??? Also I told him that I could send a money order overnight if he could get me more pics and he said his camera wont plug into his computer. Erik
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and this:

JasonBrennan said:
He contacted me about his pastel, offering it to me as a 1600 gram pastel from Pete Kahl. He was responding to one of my "wanted" ads. The next day he said he just got the paper work from N.E.R.D.? Then he posted it on fauna and it must have gone on a hunger strike, as it lost 400 grams and became a 1200 gram pastel. I emailed him about that, but he had no explanation except that it was only 1200 grams and breedable, so what difference does it make?
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Jim O said:
Umm...Jamal, here's a hint if you want to be taken seriously. Consult a spell checker before you post here or any other site. I'm not referring to simple typos. We all make those.

A little punctuation and complete sentences would help too. You may be very real and very honest and even very cool, but so long as you write very poorly few adults with any money will take you seriously.

Jamal, I mean this in all seriousness. You won't be taken seriously with writing like that.

Now, explain to us if you would why you had an adult pastel ball python that you were willing to trade for a younger pastel ball python. Most of us thought that was suggestive of a scam. Perhaps you can clear that up for us.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Also, the gentleman who commented on Jamal being an adolescent, that was a good point as well. However, without a good explanation on Jim's point, I too would have to go with my gut instinct.

Brian Aish
 
Jim O said:
Jamal, that is good. But can you explain this?
Quote:
Originally Posted by slitherstuderik
I knew something wasnt right about him. I will post the pics he sent me and the NERD paper work, the paperwork was sent to me via Adobe Acrobat Document. The pics are from 9-2-03. Also He wanted to trade for my baby male pastel. Why on EARTH would anyone want to trade an adult BREEDABLE pastel for a baby???? Something just didnt feel right. I dont think that that ball in any way even represents a pastel. Also if he did buy this "Pastel" back in 02', it wouldnt have been cheap. How much were pastels going for back in 02'??? Also I told him that I could send a money order overnight if he could get me more pics and he said his camera wont plug into his computer. Erik
and this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonBrennan
He contacted me about his pastel, offering it to me as a 1600 gram pastel from Pete Kahl. He was responding to one of my "wanted" ads. The next day he said he just got the paper work from N.E.R.D.? Then he posted it on fauna and it must have gone on a hunger strike, as it lost 400 grams and became a 1200 gram pastel. I emailed him about that, but he had no explanation except that it was only 1200 grams and breedable, so what difference does it make?
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Jamal, Here is your chance to "STAND UP AND BE COUNTED" just answer these questions and you may stand a chance of a good name .....Keep avoiding this and it will follow you through out your life in this business its your call now Buddy :>poke2<:
 
Seems Jamal went MIA after I asked him a tough question. His silence is deafening.
 
Its not looking good here Jamal, From what I'm seeing is you are putting up animals for sale and members are pointing possible buyers to this post and at the rate it's going unless you answer the questions before you here, I dont see you selling much on here or any other site, you never know when this thread will Chomp you in the butt... Its your call if I where you I'd at least try but I'm not you :)
 
We can make this quite simple. Worried about getting ripped off from this kid?

I'll offer a service :)

I'll be happy to send one of my guys to personally inspect or pick up animals this individual is offering for sale. He lives minutes away. We can act as a "middle man" and if desired specimens are legitimate we can also purchase them on your behalf.

Service fee will be $20 per trip. If we go to inspect, $20, if we go back to purchase on your behalf, another $20 plus S/H to your location.

Now, lets see what he has to say about that......... ;)

Sounds fair to me....
 
He offered me to come up, but I like Chris's Idea Better I dont Know A rat snake from a corn or a het Ball from a norm :>poke2<: .....That sounds fair to me....Chris
 
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