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Intense Herpetoculture - Any feedback?

Jerry,
I am not really sure why I am even being brought up. I simply posted Justyn's ads because he owes a lot of people money he seems to appear and then disappear. I did not encourage anyone to post on GU forum or to specifically start problems. If you don't like it fine...that is great but in all honesty I really don't care. In case you missed it, I did not ask for your opinion. Surely, you can think of something better to spend your time on.

Michael
 
Jerry,

There is a difference between an opinion and trying to spread false information to try and intimidate people into not talking about Justyn the thief.

Here let me break it down for you since you love to twist what was actually said. Your opinion is that people should not follow Justyn around to other forums. That is all well and good and you are entitled to that opinion.

But what Jay and others called you out for had nothing to do with that aspect. Even though you tried to make it appear that way. Nice try, but everyone here can read and see your tactics for what they are. It was your blatant attempt at trying to scare people with your lawsuit gibberish that Jay called you out on. Because your lawsuit gibberish was not opinion, it was completely false, incorrect and wrong information.

You can have an opinion about anything you want. But dont try to change the facts about things to protect you thief buddy. And that is exactly what you tried to do with your lawsuit gibberish. It was either a complete uninformed misguided opinion or you just blatantly lied hoping to get people to shut up.

See the difference there, sparky?
 
Craig,

the site is a wonderful site. It is not the BOI, nor does it want to mirror some of the malignancies that seem to permeate from some of the members here. Kingsnake as well as several other notable sites have already followed suit to prohibit this kind of intrusion into their sites.

I would understand had Justyn advertised under some ficticious name, but that was not the case. Apparently he is not concerned. But he is still in business, still uses his real name, and is offering merchandise for sale. I am sure that under those terms, he is working under the TOS of those sites.

I would not characterize these sites because they stopped a thread that had no business on their site in the first place. I think we both can agree, that it was put to bed very early on. I am glad of that. It has already been beaten to death here, and its reached a boiling point when super moderators such as Owen begins to change his sites on myself. Nothing that i pointed out is ridiculous. Actually its quite factual. When and if Justyn decides to take some legal action on his own, for whatever reasons he may feel justified in, Owen will not step up to put his hand in his pocket to help you finance an attorney . That you can be sure of.

There are limits to how much bashing one can accomplish on a public forum such as this. One day someone is going to find out the hard way. I would not like to be on that end of the thread.

I have stated before and will continue, whether Owen or Critical Bill likes it or not, to be a bit more receptive and temper ones thoughts when dealing with other members here.
 
Sammy, first of all,

Justyn is not a buddy. I have purchased from him maybe 3 times in total. Never had a problem. But I would not have even mentioned that until your post. My position about an attorney is not based on Justyns actions with people who feel they have a gripe because of bad business dealings, but to those who find themselves in a state that could border on libel , slander or possibly both. I am not an attorney, but if the thread related to me with close to 200 posts, I would certainly advise others who feel they have a claim to get one becuase when you start calling people liars and thieves and everything else, contrary to what you may think, it may come back to haunt you if something ever occurred where it does end up in court.

That is all I said. There is nothing wrong in advising people to be a bit more discreet in their admonishments on someone else without having all the facts. If I struck a raw nerve, it was not done to intimidate anyone. I have state earlier that people have been sued for far less. Owen thinks my statement is ridiculous, I dont. Thats his opinion, and I have mine.

One final note, whether you like it or not, whether Justyn did or did not commit these fraudulent activities, or whether there seems to be an over abundance amount of evidence that people here are bringing forth, can only be settled in a court room. I have said that from the start. I have very good experience to fall back onto from the Top Shelf fiasco. Where the threads continued around the world 5 times over ! Not a single criminal complaint was accepted by the DAs office, nor were lawsuits satisfied to the complainants satisfaction. We both know allot of money was lost there.

So, to reiterate, my post was not intended as a scare tactic, and we shall see if Justyn decides to pursue his own litigation. Regardless of whether you feel or anyone else feels that I have taken sides is quite misguided. That is a fact and not an opinion. Just as those who feel they have an obligation to pursue legal action against Justyn, he has the right to pursue legal action against anyone here. Whether there may be some merit depends on how deep the pockets run. I am finished here !
 
KNOBTAIL said:
I am finished here !
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Well if you are going to be like that then you can just forget about that ShamWow I was going to get you for xmas!!
 
Jerry,

Why you keep riding this horse, it would seem only the shadow knows. I also care not to repeat the same great arguments made by others who took issue with your "facts". Just a couple of snippets:

You write:
I would certainly advise others who feel they have a claim to get one becuase when you start calling people liars and thieves and everything else, contrary to what you may think, it may come back to haunt you if something ever occurred where it does end up in court.
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It "may". I "may" get hit by an asteroid today too. Truth is a wonderful defense, just in case.

You write:
I have said that from the start. I have very good experience to fall back onto from the Top Shelf fiasco. Where the threads continued around the world 5 times over ! Not a single criminal complaint was accepted by the DAs office, nor were lawsuits satisfied to the complainants satisfaction. We both know allot of money was lost there.
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But Chrissie sure ain't in business any more now is he? And he is not showing his face, is he ? And if Chrissie didn't end up in court, what better example to know it won't happen with Justyn the thief and liar ?

Here's my advice Jerry. If you are drinking again, you should stop. If you are not, you should start. :)
 
shrap said:
But what Jay and others called you out for had nothing to do with that aspect. Even though you tried to make it appear that way. Nice try, but everyone here can read and see your tactics for what they are. It was your blatant attempt at trying to scare people with your lawsuit gibberish that Jay called you out on. Because your lawsuit gibberish was not opinion, it was completely false, incorrect and wrong information.
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Sammy,
Since Jerry seems oblivious to a logical line of reasoning, thank you for pointing out the obvious so that I don't have too. :rolleyes:

I learned a long time ago not to argue with idiots...I don't know why I would start engaging them now. ;)
 
Chameleon Company said:
Here's my advice Jerry. If you are drinking again, you should stop. If you are not, you should start. :)
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If you happen to be drinking a nice small batch/single barrel bourbon or single malt please share... :shrug01:

Michael
 
KNOBTAIL said:
Justyn is not a buddy. I have purchased from him maybe 3 times in total. Never had a problem. But I would not have even mentioned that until your post. My position about an attorney is not based on Justyns actions with people who feel they have a gripe because of bad business dealings, but to those who find themselves in a state that could border on libel , slander or possibly both. I am not an attorney, but if the thread related to me with close to 200 posts, I would certainly advise others who feel they have a claim to get one becuase when you start calling people liars and thieves and everything else, contrary to what you may think, it may come back to haunt you if something ever occurred where it does end up in court.
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One final note, whether you like it or not, whether Justyn did or did not commit these fraudulent activities, or whether there seems to be an over abundance amount of evidence that people here are bringing forth, can only be settled in a court room. I have said that from the start.
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KNOBTAIL said:
Probably close to 200 posts on Justyn with maybe a few people who feel they should seek damages. B
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KNOBTAIL said:
Justyn can and probably will acquire all of these posts and accusations that may be made by people who have nothing better to do then to join the bandwagon and disparage him. In many cases these very people have never purchased or dealt with Justyn at all.
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KNOBTAIL said:
For those who seem to feel its there mandatory obligation like Michael Hance who really surprised me, to notify that Justyn was offering animals for sale on another site, really caused more problems for himself. The gecko forum shut the thread down, told the BOI to take a walk, and Justyn is free to advertise without fear from this group.. A job well done by the members of the BOI..........again !
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Jerry, just a note on a few points. You do know Justyn took part in these threads? That the first customers that came forward in the beginning of this thread he did admit to not sending them anything. That he posted he was going to send their money back and that several reported they received nothing. He contributed to that 200 post count very nicely by his contributing actions, posts and threads he started himself. He posted a whole charade of picking up stamps, mailing off the refunds, going to post proof, etc, etc.
Just want make sure you know that since you have posted many times that those posting may have opened themselves up to libel. The statements are no more than what Justyn has admitted himself. You mentioned that he will acquire the posts. Well, his posts can just as easily be acquired.

Now exporters (note the s) from different countries coming forward stating that Justyn has stolen their animals.
You mentioned he has a right to sell his animals. I believe some of the T's posted on another site have been identified by the supplier as animals stolen from him. Assuming that his statements are true, I think he is well within his right to post, repost on every forum that the ads appear on that the "merchandise" is stolen property. Just as any consumer of his products have a right to know if they are purchasing stolen property. Websites can refuse such information but I don't know how you can be glad that a website would try to silence those trying to get out the word.
When were your purchases? Did you purchase any animals that the people coming forward state were stolen from them? After all, your claiming that the topic has been beaten to death here you must of read this whole thread. The listing of some of the animals reported stolen. Justyn admitting not sending animals to those that paid for them. Just curious.

You have mentioned several times that other sites don't appreciate the posts. Well, this particular site didn't and many don't. But the blanket statement isn't really true. There are many sites that do appreciate such notices and also allow the same types of posts. Some with the same type of feedback forums. To state

KNOBTAIL said:
The gecko forum shut the thread down, told the BOI to take a walk, and Justyn is free to advertise without fear from this group.. A job well done by the members of the BOI..........again !
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KNOBTAIL said:
In the end, my opinion , like it or not, will prevail. Justyn, will continue to advertise, unimpeded and the overzealous members of this group who spill over into other forums will continue to get themselves shut down, and are told "dont come back" will have achieved nothing. Thats not an opinion but a fact ! Some accomplishment !
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A gecko a forum shut down a thread. Because of this thread and Justyn's own statements here, he was the one shut down on a different gecko site. In my opinion, well done BOI members is not so much the sarcastic statement as you intended.
 
Dennis Hultman said:
A gecko a forum shut down a thread. Because of this thread and Justyn's own statements here, he was the one shut down on a different gecko site. In my opinion, well done BOI members is not so much the sarcastic statement as you intended.
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Yes, indeed, a recent classified ad posted by Justyn Miller was taken down by 'another' website. He is a known scammer, and the 'other' website has posted links to this very BOI thread that exposed Justyn Miller for what he is. A thief, liar, and scammer.

Too bad Fauna and the BOI still will not allow the name of the 'other' website to be posted here so information like this could be shared.It's situations like this one with Justyn and the BOI that call for the other websites to stand together and REFUSE to allow known scammers to continue doing business.

Friends don't let friends buy from known criminals.
 
Golden Gate Geckos said:
Too bad Fauna and the BOI still will not allow the name of the 'other' website to be posted here so information like this could be shared.It's situations like this one with Justyn and the BOI that call for the other websites to stand together and REFUSE to allow known scammers to continue doing business.
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Ms. McGuiness,
Where did you get the idea that other web site names could not be mentioned on the BOI?
There are many many threads here where other sites are named in situations like this.
Heck I have even joined a few of them. :D
 
John E Dove said:
Ms. McGuiness,
Where did you get the idea that other web site names could not be mentioned on the BOI?
There are many many threads here where other sites are named in situations like this.
Heck I have even joined a few of them. :D
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John, the specific site my lady Marcia is referring to will not show up if you type it. It is censored.
 
shrap said:
John, the specific site my lady Marcia is referring to will not show up if you type it. It is censored.
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Thank you Mr. Gregg. I was unaware of that situation.
 
Golden Gate Geckos said:
Yes, indeed, a recent classified ad posted by Justyn Miller was taken down by 'another' website. He is a known scammer, and the 'other' website has posted links to this very BOI thread that exposed Justyn Miller for what he is. A thief, liar, and scammer.
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Before Justyn was exposed here on the BOI for being the scumbag scammer that he is, he had ads posted on "the site which shall remain nameless". Ads which I had a lot of interest in purchasing from. Luckily I already knew about the BOI and checked Mr. Miller's name and saw (at that time) the potential of being strung along with no animals after sending Justyn money. I chose to hold off on ordering and watched the stories develop. If it weren't for the posters on the BOI I would have been duped just like the others.

Thank God that the community here has the balls to go to other sites and spread the word. How many other people have been/will be taken by Justyn because they aren't aware/don't utilize the BOI???? If a site doesn't like what's being said, they can ignore it, delete it, ban users, etc., but saving one person from sending their hard earned cash to this loser seems to be worth whatever the consequence may be. Hell, I wish I would have seen his new ads on the "other" site. I would have gladly taken whatever punishment the mods wanted to give me by outing this POS once again.
 
Dr Owens I learned a long time ago not to argue with idiots...I don't know why I would start engaging them now. ;)[/QUOTE said:
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Thats just one of the reasons you make such a good Moderator here and on other forums....To bad people don't follow your lead..
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John E Dove said:
Where did you get the idea that other web site names could not be mentioned on the BOI?
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Other websites can be named here on the BOI... except one. It stems from a more than two year resentment by the owner of this site that is claimed to be resolved, but apparently isn't. The other website "that shall remain nameless" gets filtered out whenever it is typed here on Fauna. It's a shame, because there are many links from that site to Fauna and especially the BOI in situations such as this one with Justyn Miller.

I am a Moderator at the "site that shall remain nameless", and I banned Justyn Miller permanently from ever being able to post his pack of lies and scams over there, and closed his threads and classified ads and gave links to this thread here on the BOI for reference. As a reputable, responsible, and ethical member of the reptile community, I cannot and will not support him or allow any other innocent person to get involved with the likes of Justyn Miller without giving full disclosure of his reputation and business practices.

The BOI is the best resource for exposing liars and scammers in the reptile community, and I support and applaud Fauna and Rich Z. for providing this website. We are ALL affected when members of this community are ripped off, and we should be able to rely on one another for open communication... even if it is on another website.
 
Golden Gate Geckos said:
Other websites can be named here on the BOI... except one. It stems from a more than two year resentment by the owner of this site that is claimed to be resolved, but apparently isn't. The other website "that shall remain nameless" gets filtered out whenever it is typed here on Fauna. It's a shame, because there are many links from that site to Fauna and especially the BOI in situations such as this one with Justyn Miller.

I am a Moderator at the "site that shall remain nameless",
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OK, Marcia, I've had enough of your taunts about this issue. But rather than continue to take this thread off topic as you are intending to do, I carried this conversation over to where it really belongs. -> http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116110
 

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