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IP/ISP Do they change while logged into the internet?

Sammy,
You seem to be very much in the know, so if you don't mind, I have another question. What about WIFI access?

I'm pretty sure that when someone accesses an internet connection from a portable device via WIFI, the IP address shown would be that of the WIFI signal provider. Is that correct?

Is there any way to effectively identify the person on such a connection?

Thanks,
 
Sure Road Runner can change your IP addy anytime they want to to one that is sitting around in their allocated pool of unused IP addys. They are assigned to Road Runner and they have the right to issue, change or revoke them as they see fit. No one else can change your IP addy though. Only your specific Internet service provider can.

ISPs typically change them for security reasons every so often and also, and probably more to the fact, to make it harder for home users to run servers over their network. Be it mail servers, FTP servers, web servers, etc that rely on Static (unchanging) IP addys.

As far as identifying a person 100 percent it is not possible for us. The ISP could ID them 100 percent though. They log which customer has which IP addy and during what times and dates.

BUT... there are tools out there for tracing IPs that can trace them to the city/town they originated in. While that is not 100 percent conclusive, it certainly helps. I mean if John Doe posts one day from a specific IP addy and it traces to Millville NJ, and then the next day John Black is posting from that same IP addy and it also traces to Millville NJ...... 95 times out of 100 you can bet they are the same person. Like I said, it aint 100 percent conclusive, but it can be one damning piece of the puzzle.

Now dial up is another story completely. You get a new IP addy every time you log on. If you ever ran a forum and seen all the different people who had the same AOL IP addy you would be amazed.
 
Mike Greathouse said:
Sammy,
You seem to be very much in the know, so if you don't mind, I have another question. What about WIFI access?

I'm pretty sure that when someone accesses an internet connection from a portable device via WIFI, the IP address shown would be that of the WIFI signal provider. Is that correct?

Is there any way to effectively identify the person on such a connection?

Thanks,
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Are you saying .... like someone sitting in starbucks enjoying an over priced coffee and surfing the net via starbucks wifi? Every single person in starbucks would have the same IP addy as they surfed the Net.

It is really no different than having 4 PCs hooked up to a home network. I have 4 PCs hooked up to a router. All 4 are sharing the same IP addy provided to me by Road Runner.
 
First off, for all intents and purposes, the internet really doesn't care about domain names at all. It is merely a convenience put into place for us whereby some servers are allocated to do a translation of a domain name into an actual IP address. So in effect, when you type in http://www.FaunaClassifieds.com into your browser, this information is relayed to a DNS (Domain Name System) server which will resolve that domain name to an actual physical IP address. That is how the page request from your browser on your computer winds up getting to the correct server, have that webpage retrieved, and then displayed on your browser. And here is the key here. The server that you request that webpage FROM has to know where to send it. In other words, it has to know YOUR IP address so that the page requested will actually get to you. So with every request you make of your browser for a web page, you are not only providing the address of the page you want, but you are also providing the address of YOUR browser on YOUR computer to which the server should send that page you have requested.

So in effect, your IP address, whether static or dynamic, HAS to tell the internet where you are so you can use the internet at all. You are setting up a specific mailing address on the internet so that when you are browsing, those servers you access know where to send everything your browsing requests of them. To them, it really doesn't matter whether your IP address changes from time to time, but it CANNOT change randomly while you are logged in, otherwise there is a chance that a change could take place AFTER a request to a remote server, and BEFORE that request can be filled and that page sent to you. In such a case, you would NOT get that page requested, because more than likely that IP address would (in dynamic addresses) belong to someone else. Certainly they would be disconcerted to have web pages showing up on their browser that they had never requested.

Of course, this is all a gross oversimplification of the process, but I think it gives a general idea of what is going on.
 
one thing i will mention is that not a whole lot of people know to use the WPA-PSK protection on their routers ( or whatever yours is capable of using). So if youre living in a city, or apartments close to eachother, and several people around you all have Wireless thats unprotected, you can connect to that router and surf the web that way. Its just a matter of establishing a connection with that persons router. You dont have to just be on dial up for your IP to change in that sense. So somone here, could essentially be using different names under different IP's if they knew basic router stuff.
 
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