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I purchased 1.1 Irian jaya at Tinley from two different people. I have them set up in shoe boxes with back heat at 83 degrees. I tried to feed them tonight. They showed interest but did not "attack" so I left the mouse in with them. I fed them hopper mice. Do I need to tease feed them like many of my ball pythons or can I drop a f/t mouse in and leave them for awhile? Any suggestions on how to get them eating would be appreciated. I'm worried about the female because she is thinner than I would like and I didn't notice when I got her until we were driving home (she was in moss in the deli cup and looked good).
 
Young carpets usually require the stimulation of tease feeding...not the bounce it around style that you probably use with BPs, though. Obviously, (if the hoppers are the appropriate size for them) these guys have been feeding fairly well, so you may not have to do too much messing with them. Babies respond best to sort of a "tap tease", in which you touch them with prey item - NOT ON THE FACE. lightly touch the body then quickly move the prey item up and tap the snake on the neck (hard to say how far down from the head without knowing how long they are). This should stimulate a strike. If not, do it again on the other side. Once they are feeding regularly, you shouldn't have to work that hard to get them to take food - but sometimes (new environment) you have to drop back to jump start them. Another thing that helps is giving them something to perch on, as young carpets tend to be fairly arboreal.
 
It has been 2 hrs since I put the mice in. When I just checked on them they were both looking like they were interested in the mice. If they don't eat tonight I will put a wood perch in their shoe boxes tomorrow and then try feeding them again in about 3 days and use the bump method if need be. Should I try live?
Thanks
Mark
 
Ok I went to take the mice out and I thought I will try the tapping (without having much hope). The male didn't want anything to do with mouse. The female who I think looked skinny and am a little worried about, moved a little bit then struck and wrapped. I'm leaving her alone right now so hopefully in an hour when I check on her she will have eaten. Thank you so much that was exactly the tip I was looking for.
Mark Westberg
 
I have a 1.1 adult pair of jungles who spend almost all of their time on their perches. I never knew how arboreal the carpets were until I installed the perches.

After you install a perch, try feeding overnight. I have noticed that mine hang down from their perches at night. My male will only eat live and only if I drop it in his cage when he is hanging down "hunting".

The female will eat F/T rats but I have to work to get her to take them. I tap the rat on her body (like Harald said) and she will usually take it. She prefers live but with work I can get her to eat F/T which is what I prefer.
 
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The female didn't eat the first time so I tapped her again and made her wrestle it a little bit. She then swallowed it. The male just tried to run away. Tonight I fed them again and the female ate right away. The male struck but let go and didn't eat I tried tapping him again and he just wanted to get away. I'm not as concerned about him because he is bigger and up to this point since July (according to the feeding charts I got) had only refused 3 times. I have them in shoe boxes so how do I put a perch in the shoe box? Thanks for the advice.
Mark Westberg
 
I usually use wood doweling for the little guys...you can get it at Home Depot, Lowes, hardware stores, and I have even seen it at WalMart. Plastic tubing works too, and a couple of companies make bendable "vines" that you could use. Drill (or melt) a hole that the perch will just fit through - I like it to be a snug fit, so I don't have to worry about it slipping out.
 
**fingers crossed** good luck. let us know how you make out...were they eating f/t with the previous owner? if not, you may still have to resort to live - I have a few that I haven't gotten switched yet (little buggers)
 
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