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Is my boa a certain kind of sunglow?

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I bought this female at The Reptile Super Show in Pomona CA in august 2017. It was sold to me as a Sunglow. I was so excited about buying it that i completely forgot to ask about what it might be het for. It was 250$ it was a very good price considering literally every other booth had them at the least 400$. it is one of the most beautiful sunglows ive ever seen. It seems to have a reduced pattern.. no speckles, and is a very light orange/cream color. All the sunglows ive seen are usually much more vibrant in color with deep oranges or reds. Is it maybe part ghost or something. PS. it is a gorgeous snake to me and is the most beautiful snake ive ever owned, seriously not complaining about the lack of vibrant color, i actually prefer the more subtle pinkish orange colors on a cream/white-ish background as opposed to a snake that looks more orange or red. Also, is reduced pattern a certain morph?
 

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Hi Crisco89
What a very nice pick up
Have treated yourself too, I love sunglow tol and I love my little girl too , I would say she was a jungle sunglow or (junglow) because of her reduced pattern, the jungle gene can often make there markings like this or even striped sometimes or a mixture of abhorrent markings , but she really is nice, don't Think you will be disappointed in her that's for sure, she may be due a shed if she is not really bright but there colours often are brighter as they get older


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Nice little sunglow. She was probably a little cheaper because she did not have the more vibrant colors which is generally what people are drawn to. Not 'part ghost' or anything, just a light colored sunglow. Coloration and pattern are highly variable in boas.
Congrats on your new pick up!
 
The reduced pattern comes from the hypo gene. Most sunglows have it. That's one of the ways in which a sunglow can be told apart from an albino. While some het anery animals show reduced color, that alone is not enough to identify a het. The only way to tell if she is het anery is to test breed. Chances are, however, that you would have been told about any hets she had when you purchased her. Sometimes possible hets are not disclosed, so you could always pair her with an anery or snow and see what happens.
 
My sunglow hasn't got a reduced pattern but has a full bodied saddles ,I've always thought it was the jungle gene that messes with the pattern and reduces it and the hypo gene clean its up and brings the red outIMG_1842.jpgIMG_1834.jpg


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I said most, not all. It is especially pronounced on supers. And while it is true that the jungle gene can produce reduced-pattern animals, plenty of jungles have big, blocky saddles. There's just a lot of variability in boa constrictors. Since the OP didn't ask any questions about the parents of the sunglow he purchased, the only way to be sure is to test breed. Could it be a jungle? Maybe, some jungles are very low expression. But it's doubtful that a junglow would be sold for $250.
 
Sorry sent with out finishing, as you said with out any paperwork we will never know, as you say the supers are really reduced but there's know way a breeder would sell one for 250 ,still a really nice snake

Is there a way of editing posts on this forum can't see a way,thanks


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Both sunglows posted have pinched saddles which is a trait usually coming from the hypo genetics.

Pinched saddles - look kind of like ><

Jungles tend to have blocky square saddles.

Of course normal boas can show blocky and pinched as well, as they are highly variable.
 
Nice looking sunglow you picked up. I would say she is just a normal sunglow from the price you paid for her. She could be a super sunglow as she is very clean looking to me. The super means she is double het for hypo. The only way to know for sure if she is a super is to breeder her when she is older. If she is a super and you breed her to a normal or a hypo boa all the babies will be hypo and het for albino. With the hypo breeding you would also get super hypo’s. If you breed her to a albino all the babies will be sunglows if she is a super. If she is not a super you would get albinos and sunglow.

Here is a link to some of my 2016 baby albinos and sunglow. The picture headings tell you what they are like “albino or sun”. Like others have said the hypo gene is what reduces the pattern.

http://www.mccarthyboas.com/babyboas2016.htm

http://www.mccarthyboas.com/Sunglow2015.html

Take care
Tom
 
I wouldn't be surprised it she was a Super Sunglow -- only proven thru breeding. Her extra-cleaness suggests that to me. Junglows would display a similar look, but be more colorful.
 
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