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is usark over stepping its rights by proposing rules for states without asking us

I love the way you fabricate! You didn't just use a swear word ... you insulted a member by calling them a name that was a swear word (unprovoked mind you), similar to the way children act. You deserved the ban.

post a link to the page so everyone can read what i said. and see how awful it was.

nick whats your stance on bmp's exactly. since i already know how against you are having say moderators police classifieds.

so which do you prefer. the industry policing itself via rules and regulations on private forums and classifieds or being polices by state government.
 
hers what i said that got me ban

Originally Posted by rodneynboalich View Post
i realize that banning people for selling animals is hard. my point is that it shouldnt be over looked. and you sound worse than snotty to put the blame on the customer for getting scammed. in fact you sound like an xxx hole. the customer shouldnt have to (especially to the point that is unfortunatly needed in our industry) investigate sellers before they make a purchase which has been brought about by you kinda mindset that is already entirely too prevalent within the hobby as is. through out societies across the world there is a accepted general practice for business which is a fair and just way business is supposed to be conducted and the scammers do not follow the rules. as for the scammers bringing money to he industry with the money they paid for their tables and memberships on classifieds it dose not negate nor overshadow the harmful impact they do to the industry with their practices. im sorry but a glib little quote proves nothing including your point. its the mods job to rule on such issues and i think they should and hold the people on their site to a higher level of scrutiny instead of wasnt their time giving me infractions for swearing.

your whole way of thinking is void of some simple cause and effect that the mods could easily hand down for immoral business dealing instead of waiting on karma to rear its mystic judicial head and righting all wrongs. its a fairytale way of thinking and thinking that people that are new to the hobby will know enough to go on the boi and sift through that mountain of XXXX and extract the few diamonds of truth therein is even less likely.
 
heres a link to that thread the whole threads about how i feel we need to police ourselves and everyone on there is disagreeing with me and some fo the people on there are on here saying we need usark to hand out model legislation to state governments to enforce. its retarded
 
heres a link to that thread the whole threads about how i feel we need to police ourselves and everyone on there is disagreeing with me and some fo the people on there are on here saying we need usark to hand out model legislation to state governments to enforce. its retarded

More fabrication. Your stance in that thread wasn't that we should police ourselves, but that the moderators and admin should police all the classifieds and scammers for us. You qouted yourself above stating this :rofl:
 
More fabrication. Your stance in that thread wasn't that we should police ourselves, but that the moderators and admin should police all the classifieds and scammers for us. You qouted yourself above stating this :rofl:

by ourselves i didnt mean individuals. meant us as a whole ( as the dude would say the royal we) and yes i stand by that way of thinking as i stated in that thread. if people wish to create a medium for which other may engage in buying selling and so on i think it is a responsibility of their to make sure there is as little dishonest and illegal activities going on as possible. and yes that is an example us ( the industry as a whole) policing ourselves. it would be a set of standards that people must meet and saidstandards are created and enforced by us not an outside force.

i was going to tell you that you are retarded for not understanding what i was saying but i think you did. your just being argumentative for the sake of trying to win the argument and that is not what we need at this time.
 
Rodney this thread is like an endless loop, people tell you what they think of some of your issues such as this one:

the customer shouldnt have to (especially to the point that is unfortunatly needed in our industry) investigate sellers before they make a purchase .

And then sure enough a few pages later you are again asking people to address the issues.
 
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With hots they need locking/latching enclosures, species names and venomous reptile on containers/enclosures and a bite protocol with species name and anti-venom in case EMS finds you face down on your reptile room floor. You can print out these from some hot keeping websites.
Crocs and big constrictors should have locking/latching enclosures and the name of species on containers or enclosures. This makes sense, I don't want to see burm in tanks with bricks or books holding down the top. Never a good thing.
Escape notifications on everything should you have something make it out of the house. Also, even if you are bitten by your venomous, as long as it is found you complied with caging standards and bite protocols, you'll get it back should you recover.

I'm done repeating myself here. There is enough information on all 20 pages of this thread to help anyone decide which way to lean. You want to keep hots, big 5 and whatnot with bricks or books to prevent escapes then go ahead. You don't think a bite protocol is necessary, whatever.
This horse gets beat any more and you'll have to do a DNA test to know it was equine.

There is one thing I do not agree with. That is keeping AV at your location. Most of the time we as hot keepers know more then the doctor helping us about bites. WHY? Because it is not something they see everyday.

Now lets say I have 5 different species all needing different AV..... I am bit face down.... The EMTs would not know what to use anyways... and it is not as easy as just giving you a shot of it.

That is why I say you donate heavy to a locale zoo and ask if you donate you can use their AV if you are bit. NOW many times you will be turned away. Sometimes with donations they will help you.

But also think of this. You are bit and go in with 30 things of AV and tell a DR put this in me.... He is not going to do it. To many people sue for everything.

Everything on that list is great. I do not agree with everyone keeping their own AV. AV also has a shelf life.
 
Rodney... reposting the statements that earned you an infraction is not a good move. Please refrain. Also discussing your ban (for accumulated points, not just that one statement) is not relevant to this thread. Let's keep it on topic. Also - any kind of NAME CALLING is not welcome on this site.
thank you
-April
 
Rodney... reposting the statements that earned you an infraction is not a good move. Please refrain. Also discussing your ban (for accumulated points, not just that one statement) is not relevant to this thread. Let's keep it on topic. Also - any kind of NAME CALLING is not welcome on this site.
thank you
-April

hey genius. i didnt bring it up someone else did and i only commented on it because it was brought up and what i posted wasnt my original post with the swear words, its a repost without them. so if you have a problem with it take it up with the person that brought it up.
 
hey genius. i didnt bring it up someone else did and i only commented on it because it was brought up and what i posted wasnt my original post with the swear words, its a repost without them. so if you have a problem with it take it up with the person that brought it up.

i would like to know why you have only addressed me on this issues when theres other people are posting things from other threads and all im doing is replying to them
 
Rodney... reposting the statements that earned you an infraction is not a good move. Please refrain. Also discussing your ban (for accumulated points, not just that one statement) is not relevant to this thread. Let's keep it on topic. Also - any kind of NAME CALLING is not welcome on this site.
thank you
-April

come on i can see your viewing this thread
 
Rodney this thread is like an endless loop, people tell you what they think of some of your issues such as this one:



And then sure enough a few pages later you are again asking people to address the issues.

here April. this is an unnecessary post. did you want to address it
 
i didnt bring it up someone else did.

actually you originally brought it up in your post #126 in this thread. Also my comment about keeping this on topic was directed at all parties discussing it, not just yourself, sorry if that was not clear.

hey genius.

I do not appreciate your snark, but thank you, my momma always said I was smart.
:rolleyes:

If you wish to further discuss, we can go to PMs as it really has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread.
 
actually you originally brought it up in your post #126 in this thread. Also my comment about keeping this on topic was directed at all parties discussing it, not just yourself, sorry if that was not clear.



I do not appreciate your snark, but thank you, my momma always said I was smart.
:rolleyes:

If you wish to further discuss, we can go to PMs as it really has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread.

then why didnt you say something 100 post ago. your a liar. you were referring to post 202 thats thats why you said about its a bad idea to repost the post that got me ban
 
Rodney, you seem intent on offending everyone today. Not a good way to build political consensus in the reptile world. What are you trying to gain here?
 
Rodney, you seem intent on offending everyone today. Not a good way to build political consensus in the reptile world. What are you trying to gain here?
and everyone on here seem intent on not discussing the topic of this thread or any of the question ive posed. so just in case your interested here they are again unless you would rather keep posting things from other threads


so why are bmp's good

what will they bring about

what problems will they resolve

and most importantly what new problems could they bring about.

please refrain for hypotheticals and claims that have no empirical data to back them.
 
and everyone on here seem intent on not discussing the topic of this thread or any of the question ive posed. so just in case your interested here they are again unless you would rather keep posting things from other threads


so why are bmp's good

what will they bring about

what problems will they resolve

and most importantly what new problems could they bring about.

please refrain for hypotheticals and claims that have no empirical data to back them.

Sorry, you are simply not going to control this thread after being insulting and demeaning to our site membership and mods.

Especially since you have been asked questions and failed to respond. I do not know what you goal is, but I know that it is not to build agreement.
 
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