Inquiry is usark scamming the reptile industry

[leftycrane]

1st off- im not a dude.

2nd off- while people do have the first ammendment right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH, you are also RESPONSIBLE for what you say. Which is why you can be arrested for slander and libel. Because you have the right to SAY it does not mean you can say whatever you want.
Some words of wisdom you might want to consider:
"a wise man speaks when he has something to say, a fool speaks when he has to say something"

 

[rcpreis3]

That is straight off the Florida statutes website. Anything regarding Conditional Species is right there and theres no need to look into it further. That is, as they say, "straight from the horses mouth"

Smartest thing for u to do now?
forget this thread for get this site and never come back here. It will save u alot of humiliation.

 

[reticguy76]

it is an interesting topic, although i dont really see how its relevant in the boi and not some other discussion forum.
i think we are all well aware of lobbying and lobbyists. lobbying used to ( in the old days of honesty and true ethics ), be able to serve a good purpose. Now days, there is so much corruption and lying, pretty much everywhere, that lobbying has become all about money and notability
A hugely high percent of lobbying groups and lobbyists are dishonest and want the almighty buck, that is common sense to know that.
Now, is usark, a lobbyist group ?? Are they in it and lobbying for the right reasons ??
Well, maybe so, maybe not.
There is sooooooo much more written texts and agendas and such in usark's books and records and plans, we may never know, what their true end result is or what they want it to be.

 

[rodneynboalich]

Well, I would LIKE to correct you, but what you said made absolutely NO sense, so I am at a complete loss to try to explain exactly how wrong you are. Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that you believe you can walk into my living room, say whatever you want, and I have no right to kick your ass out the door? That you have a CONSTITUTIONAL right, as an individual, to say what you want, to ME as an individual, in my own home, and I am obligated to just accept it with no recourse? Yeah, right.... Try walking into your boss's office and pull that one off. You might want to research where your local unemployment office is located first. As a test of your "constitutional rights" stand in the middle of your local shopping mall and just shout out obscenities and profanity at the top of your lungs. Come on back and then tell us how long this "constitutional protection" you are dreaming of keeps you from being forcibly escorted out the door.

Please stop making crap up from the top of your head and RESEARCH what you are claiming. And for God's sake, please do not contact any of our government representatives with this sort of drivel claiming that you are a spokesman for this industry. My opinion is that after talking with you, any representative that might have been on the fence about these issues will soon turn against us after considering your presentation and believing that you actually ARE a representative example of US.

once again a little off topic there webslave. our whole 1st amendment started with my infraction for swearing and then continued when we got into it about you claiming your libel for banning people for being scammers and you went on to say your not going to try and police the industry. yet i find out in your fauna good guy certified thing that you said you were looking to clean up the industry. and when i pointed that out to you and also pointed out to you that if you take it a pone yourself to create a medium like you have you should take some responsibility for it. and all you did was bash me and give me the love it or leave speech and go on to ask me how many website have i started or ran bla bla bla. real mature of you. and after the big speech of being libel i also pointed if your libel for kicking someone off you privately own site ( which is why i cant swear on here) you could get sued, but some how you cant if you give someone a good guy sticker and they rip someone off)

keep in mind everyone the very first thing you got to do to get the good guy sticker is give webslave money.

then in this thread you tell me you dont have to put up with my bs. meaning. im guessing that meant yu would ban me. but wouldnt you be libel if you ban me. or not.

see it seems to me your libel or not libel when you see fit.

you ask me a question in your first post on here about what i said and i answered it. and then you go one to try and twist things about the 1st amendment. yes it was at first it wasnt granted on an individual level now it is.

i know what your trying to do. your trying to make me mad so i start swearing. so you can ban me and this thread will end. because you like so many other people are afraid to say anything about usark. and its killing you that im behaving.

let me ask you this. if i was the one posting so off topic wouldnt you or one of your mods step in and tell me about. and if those are the rules. are you not in violation of your own rules. clearly i would say so. or do you not have to follow the rules that everyone else dose.

and what if i would have said kick your ass out the door. whats the chances i wouldnt have received and infraction for making a threat in a hypothetical situation.

your acting just like the teenagers on here acting me saying im going to make representatives be anti reptiles. please not and more it they were to come on your boi and see how the people in the hobby act.

honestly you dont seem to have anything to say about this topic. so why are you posting here. if you have an issue with me PM me or start a thread or call me 8147623728

 

[HerpVenue]

Rodney.

I will type REAL SLOWLY. Try to comprehend.

You have first ammendment rights. You rights were enumerated for you as a protection from your governemnt. Meaning the government can't really tell you to shut up. Rich and this site is not a government entity. He can and will tell you to shut up.

comprehend = understand
entity = being
enumerated = written out. listed
first = the thing before second
shut up = be quiet
slowly = not fast

by the way. how can you tell him that the first ammendment topic is off the topic when you brought it up in your first post in this thread?

 

[rodneynboalich]

Good post as usual Rich

As a matter of fact, Rodney didn't you ask me why I was online? And if I had a job? Why are YOU online? Don't you have a job? Or did you already walk into his office and use your first amendment right?

can you please make a point and argue it

 

[rodneynboalich]

Are u just stupid? Is says right there in bold letters and plain English that you cannot do such things.

You really need to enroll in some sort of English classes.

ok ill call mike and see if he has time to explain this

 

[rcpreis3]

once again a little off topic there webslave. our whole 1st amendment started with my infraction for swearing and then continued when we got into it about you claiming your libel for banning people for being scammers and you went on to say your not going to try and police the industry. yet i find out in your fauna good guy certified thing that you said you were looking to clean up the industry. and when i pointed that out to you and also pointed out to you that if you take it a pone yourself to create a medium like you have you should take some responsibility for it. and all you did was bash me and give me the love it or leave speech and go on to ask me how many website have i started or ran bla bla bla. real mature of you. and after the big speech of being libel i also pointed if your libel for kicking someone off you privately own site ( which is why i cant swear on here) you could get sued, but some how you cant if you give someone a good guy sticker and they rip someone off)

keep in mind everyone the very first thing you got to do to get the good guy sticker is give webslave money.

then in this thread you tell me you dont have to put up with my bs. meaning. im guessing that meant yu would ban me. but wouldnt you be libel if you ban me. or not.

see it seems to me your libel or not libel when you see fit.

you ask me a question in your first post on here about what i said and i answered it. and then you go one to try and twist things about the 1st amendment. yes it was at first it wasnt granted on an individual level now it is.

i know what your trying to do. your trying to make me mad so i start swearing. so you can ban me and this thread will end. because you like so many other people are afraid to say anything about usark. and its killing you that im behaving.

let me ask you this. if i was the one posting so off topic wouldnt you or one of your mods step in and tell me about. and if those are the rules. are you not in violation of your own rules. clearly i would say so. or do you not have to follow the rules that everyone else dose.

and what if i would have said kick your ass out the door. whats the chances i wouldnt have received and infraction for making a threat in a hypothetical situation.

your acting just like the teenagers on here acting me saying im going to make representatives be anti reptiles. please not and more it they were to come on your boi and see how the people in the hobby act.

honestly you dont seem to have anything to say about this topic. so why are you posting here. if you have an issue with me PM me or start a thread or call me 8147623728

OMFG!!! Its liable, not libel. And how can u spell hypothetical correctly and get simple words wrong. You have no idea about sentence structure, or reading comprehension. If Rich wants he can ban u for no reason at all, he doesnt have to wait for u to "slip up." This is his site, his home, and can do as he pleases. There is no such thing as rights on the internet, because the internet cannot be governed by any single entity. Ur just a fool, and ur dont make any sense what-so-ever. Good luck in life. U need it.

 

[rodneynboalich]

That is straight off the Florida statutes website. Anything regarding Conditional Species is right there and theres no need to look into it further. That is, as they say, "straight from the horses mouth"

Smartest thing for u to do now?
forget this thread for get this site and never come back here. It will save u alot of humiliation.

ill try to get more info on FL laws.

 

[HerpVenue]

can you please make a point and argue it

yeah be more like rodney. He makes a point and he argues it. Then we show him the errors in his arguement. Then he picks another point and argues that instead. Then we show him the errors in that arguement and he pics a third point and so on and so forth. Somewhere along the line he comes back again to the first point.

 

[rcpreis3]

ok ill call mike and see if he has time to explain this

If it makes u feel better go for it, but dont waste ur time on me, cuz I dont care what Mike says. Hes a nice guy and Ive spoken to him a few times, but no matter what he says, the actual law is the only thing that matters. Mike and Greg are allowed to keep, breed and sell these animals because they have the proper permits to do so. And believe me getting the permits that they have is no easy task for the common man such as myself. A class 3 does not cover anything except the possession and sale of class 3 species.

 

[rcpreis3]

ill try to get more info on FL laws.

copy and paste the website at the bottom of the statutes I posted, all of Floridas law are there, and hopefully you would be able to manage navigating the site to find them.

 

[rodneynboalich]

Rodney.

I will type REAL SLOWLY. Try to comprehend.

You have first ammendment rights. You rights were enumerated for you as a protection from your governemnt. Meaning the government can't really tell you to shut up. Rich and this site is not a government entity. He can and will tell you to shut up.

comprehend = understand
entity = being
enumerated = written out. listed
first = the thing before second
shut up = be quiet
slowly = not fast

by the way. how can you tell him that the first ammendment topic is off the topic when you brought it up in your first post in this thread?

i know what your saying. i was just pointing out to everyone if they want to say anything to me in a vulgar manner to feel free to do so on my facebook page since the 1st amendment isnt supported here like its is by our government and or facebook. thats all i was saying. and to think i was still able to understand what you were saying even with your typo in government and misspelling of amendment

 

[leftycrane]

OMFG!!! Its liable, not libel.

definition of LIBEL

1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others.


Definition of LIABLE
a : obligated according to law or equity : responsible b : subject to appropriation or attachment

 

[rodneynboalich]

it is an interesting topic, although i dont really see how its relevant in the boi and not some other discussion forum.
i think we are all well aware of lobbying and lobbyists. lobbying used to ( in the old days of honesty and true ethics ), be able to serve a good purpose. Now days, there is so much corruption and lying, pretty much everywhere, that lobbying has become all about money and notability
A hugely high percent of lobbying groups and lobbyists are dishonest and want the almighty buck, that is common sense to know that.
Now, is usark, a lobbyist group ?? Are they in it and lobbying for the right reasons ??
Well, maybe so, maybe not.
There is sooooooo much more written texts and agendas and such in usark's books and records and plans, we may never know, what their true end result is or what they want it to be.

one of the mods told me the boi is where this thread belongs

 

[reticguy76]

interesting.

i guess i just dont see how a probable lobbying group is, in any way, just cause to post in an inquiry forum.
seems this is more a political point of view, rather than a business point of view, and isnt there a more political based section on here ??

 

[rcpreis3]

once again a little off topic there webslave. our whole 1st amendment started with my infraction for swearing and then continued when we got into it about you claiming your libel for banning people for being scammers and you went on to say your not going to try and police the industry. yet i find out in your fauna good guy certified thing that you said you were looking to clean up the industry. and when i pointed that out to you and also pointed out to you that if you take it a pone yourself to create a medium like you have you should take some responsibility for it. and all you did was bash me and give me the love it or leave speech and go on to ask me how many website have i started or ran bla bla bla. real mature of you. and after the big speech of being libel i also pointed if your libel for kicking someone off you privately own site ( which is why i cant swear on here) you could get sued, but some how you cant if you give someone a good guy sticker and they rip someone off)

keep in mind everyone the very first thing you got to do to get the good guy sticker is give webslave money.

then in this thread you tell me you dont have to put up with my bs. meaning. im guessing that meant yu would ban me. but wouldnt you be libel if you ban me. or not.

see it seems to me your libel or not libel when you see fit.

you ask me a question in your first post on here about what i said and i answered it. and then you go one to try and twist things about the 1st amendment. yes it was at first it wasnt granted on an individual level now it is.

i know what your trying to do. your trying to make me mad so i start swearing. so you can ban me and this thread will end. because you like so many other people are afraid to say anything about usark. and its killing you that im behaving.

let me ask you this. if i was the one posting so off topic wouldnt you or one of your mods step in and tell me about. and if those are the rules. are you not in violation of your own rules. clearly i would say so. or do you not have to follow the rules that everyone else dose.

and what if i would have said kick your ass out the door. whats the chances i wouldnt have received and infraction for making a threat in a hypothetical situation.

your acting just like the teenagers on here acting me saying im going to make representatives be anti reptiles. please not and more it they were to come on your boi and see how the people in the hobby act.

honestly you dont seem to have anything to say about this topic. so why are you posting here. if you have an issue with me PM me or start a thread or call me 8147623728

OMG someone please laugh with me on this one, in all the bolded libels u have above, each one of those should be the term liable.

Thank for answering my previous question of asking if you were stupid.

 

[rodneynboalich]

OMFG!!! Its liable, not libel. And how can u spell hypothetical correctly and get simple words wrong. You have no idea about sentence structure, or reading comprehension. If Rich wants he can ban u for no reason at all, he doesnt have to wait for u to "slip up." This is his site, his home, and can do as he pleases. There is no such thing as rights on the internet, because the internet cannot be governed by any single entity. Ur just a fool, and ur dont make any sense what-so-ever. Good luck in life. U need it.

thats what i tried to tell him. that he can ban people for no reason or any reason, like some one being a scammer, but he says hes libel and would be liable in a court of law. there is that better. its what he said

 

[radera5]

yeah be more like rodney. He makes a point and he argues it. Then we show him the errors in his arguement. Then he picks another point and argues that instead. Then we show him the errors in that arguement and he pics a third point and so on and so forth. Somewhere along the line he comes back again to the first point.

LMFAO That is exactly whats happening. My last post was in response to his post to me

What a joke!
Richie you have been on point throughout all this...ON POINT I say! I applaud you for this. I think you're being a nice guy explaining every little detail to him.

Rodney doesn't let me down though. I asked him to keep making me laugh and what do you know?? He starts arguing with Rich! In his own house!!

Rodney if you were so sure you had so many valid points, don't you think more people would agree? Especially after 3 threads now?

Catch a drift man, you are losing your grip on reality.

 

[rcpreis3]

thats what i tried to tell him. that he can ban people for no reason or any reason, like some one being a scammer, but he says hes libel and would be liable in a court of law. there is that better. its what he said

I dont know because I dont understand what ur trying to type. This thread has gone from entertaining to annoying real fast.