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Jamal Griffin, [email protected] sent me stolen pics.

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I've been talking to Jamal through IM for a couple months now because he claimed he wanted to buy my ball python cutch when they hatch. He seemed like a cool guy. We talked about alot of different things. Occasionally he asks me if I'm looking for anything, which I'm ususally not. But the other night I told him I was looking for Hoggs and he said he had a whole group he was holding back to breed this year but might sell them for the right price. Working through the conversation he said he'd do $1,400 shipped for an adult 1.3 group. He sent me pics of some awesome animals and I was excited about the deal. We talked about working the balls into a trade/cash deal and everything after he he had sent me pics. I was a little suspicious when he said to send money now and he'd refund me when the balls are born in 2 weeks but still trying to trust him. Back to the pics, my suspicions were already raised cause I could swear I had seen at least 2 of the pics before and I didn't think they were his. I sent the pics to my Yahoo email account to save them and was just looking at them. I clicked on their properties to see if I could find out their origin. They are from 3 different websites. And I have seen them before. He has a recent bad guy post but I don't often put too much weight into the unjustified lynchings that go on on this board but I admit, it is a good base to start at with someone you wanna do business with. However, there's no excuse for passing off someone else's pics as your own. That's undeniably shady. Needless to say, this too good to be true deal won't be happening. I thought I should definitely post this because I don't want to see ANYONE get ripped off. I can't get the pics to attach but the addresses attached to them seem to still be accurate. These are the addresses of the exact pics he sent to me:

http://kizandjenn.com/pscshow2003/hogg.island.boas.jpg
http://www.redtailboas.com/albums/hoggs/adulthog2.sized.jpg
http://www.snake-world.de/boa/bchog1.jpg
 
Wow! I am just shocked about our friend Jamal! LMAO.

So now he has gone from being a two bit illiterate moron to an out and out wannabe thief. Good work Jamal!!

Here's your sign :toiletcla

Good pick-up Ryan!

Here are those pics, attached for others' viewing pleasure:
 

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RyanT said:
I clicked on their properties to see if I could find out their origin. They are from 3 different websites. And I have seen them before.
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Maybe it's just me but the first thing that popped into my head was. If the guy wanted to use stolen pics, why didn't he at least do something with the pics to alter the properties to where they wouldn't be able to be traced.

I mean seriously, if you wanna be a crook at least be smart about it.........

Smooth move Jamal :toiletcla
 
"Maybe it's just me but the first thing that popped into my head was. If the guy wanted to use stolen pics, why didn't he at least do something with the pics to alter the properties to where they wouldn't be able to be traced.

I mean seriously, if you wanna be a crook at least be smart about it........."

Lets not give this little scammer any info that he could actually use to improve his scamming efforts... He does come here and he does read these. No need to help the little bozo.
 
Yes, I thought about that after I hit submit. I was sooo wishing I could have deleted it after I hit submit. :slamit:
 
I just got this email requesting I post it here, so that's what I'm doing.

While I can't post on the BOI (not a paid member) could you let people know that I know the owners of the kizandjenn.com hogg islands and they belong to a couple here in Washington state. The snakes are NOT for sale. Glad you posted that info here, I'll let the owners know.

Then I replied back just asking for her name so as to follow BOI standard practices.

I go by ChaosCat on fauna. Clara Turnbull-Murphy. I e-mailed the owner of
the kizandjenn.com snakes (the photos were taken at the 2003 Reptiles
Around the World show at the Pacific Science Center in Seattle) to let him
know.

No problem, any other info you'd like to be known?

Not that I can think of. That guy is a total scammer. thanks!

Just passing it on. Thanks Clara.
 
Wth

:rofl: Jamal I think you totally Lost Your F**King mind you went on and on about everything you have is yours and what a honest person you are: rofl: Now your stealing pics of other peoples snakes. It makes me wonder if you really have any snakes or just pictures of them on your wall :rofl: :>off_to<: Is this really becoming so stupid that people like this thinking its going to go unnoticed Wake Up People This The 21st Century you get busted faster now then years gone by :hot:
 
I just wanted to refresh everyone's memory as to what Jamal had to say the last time his pictures and his integrity were questioned.
moose11 said:
i am sorry that some of u have the idea that i am out to scam u but i am not i have updated pictures of all the animals that i am selling i have made sells on here and plan on doing more it fine that u gies dont trust me if u gies think i am a scamer so much buy something see how the deal goes i bet u that u would love what ur getting and would buy from me again i am not here to scam anyone i am here to sell to meet new people who like the things that i do i am here to learn to things help out other herpers not to scam anyone i am here to mke trades buy new things
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Oh, and by the way, Jamal has been online since this thread began on 5/6/2005. What's the matter, Jamal? Nothing to say? Cat got your tongue?
 

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Another scammer............ must be something in the water lately. :shrug01:
 
:rofl: Jim he isnt going to say "JACK " He's busted Big time here and there is "NO ESCAPE " this time around and its stupid crap like this that makes this Hobby/Selling harder then it has to be :hot:
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
:rofl: Jim he isnt going to say "JACK " He's busted Big time here and there is "NO ESCAPE " this time around and its stupid crap like this that makes this Hobby/Selling harder then it has to be :hot:
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Awww, Billl, tell us how you really feel.

Actually, I am hoping that he does respond so we can all have a good laugh at his "English" and help him dig the hole deeper.

C'mon, Jamal, we're waiting. :>poke2<:
 
Jim O said:
Awww, Billl, tell us how you really feel.

Actually, I am hoping that he does respond so we can all have a good laugh at his "English" and help him dig the hole deeper.

C'mon, Jamal, we're waiting. :>poke2<:
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:rofl: Jim if I did that I'd get Fined BIG TIME Ya come Jamal Lets Hear the line this time I wait In Anticipation For the Dozers and Back Hoes to come and dig you out of this HOLE :)
 
I just saw this dumbass sign online. I thought the conversation between me and "his sister" is kind of interesting. I'm sure alot of people will like it. I forgot the other day when I started this thread that he also sent me pics of a really nice albino boa he claimed to have. I wish I would have thought about it and found out where that came from too. I was only interested in the Hoggs so that's all I focused on. I really don't think this guy's much of a threat, just stupid. Hopefully anyone else he tries to rip off just uses common sense. He's not very good at what he does. Anyway, here's our IM conversation from a few minutes ago. Enjoy.

ToxicPhillie [1:42 PM]: so where should I send the $1,400 for the Hoggs?
KVBUNCH08 [1:44 PM]: jamals not on rigth now so plzIM him later
KVBUNCH08 [1:44 PM]: 5 min. and he'll be on
ToxicPhillie [1:44 PM]: oh, who's this?
KVBUNCH08 [1:45 PM]: his sister
ToxicPhillie [1:45 PM]: oh
ToxicPhillie [1:45 PM]: don't have your own screen name huh?
KVBUNCH08 [1:45 PM]: no he be on mine
ToxicPhillie [1:45 PM]: oh
KVBUNCH08 [1:45 PM]: ernet
ToxicPhillie [1:45 PM]: so you guys kinda trade back and forth?
ToxicPhillie [1:45 PM]: that's sweet
KVBUNCH08 [1:45 PM]: yes
KVBUNCH08 [1:46 PM]: no what would be sweet is me finishing my work
ToxicPhillie [1:46 PM]: I just got alot of money and wanna buy like every snake he has
KVBUNCH08 [1:46 PM]: oh well he'll be on in 5 mintues
ToxicPhillie [1:47 PM]: cool, I'll check back soon
KVBUNCH08 [1:47 PM]: ok
 
Dennis Hultman said:
Jamal is not the brightest bulb in the box. He just might come on and enlighten us further.
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We can only hope. This place can use a few laughs lately.
 
You think he may be pulling the sex change thing like our friend Mitch????
 
FurryLilDevils said:
You think he may be pulling the sex change thing like our friend Mitch????
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" Oh No " No more he/shes or she/hes :rofl: My brain cant take It :rofl: I wish somebody could asnswer the age old question Why when busted the "Guy in Question" becomes a female....??? do they get so scared their "Jewels" fall off???? there must be alot of jewels rolling across the floors of AMERICA :rofl:
 
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