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Bad Guy Jay from Creative Exotics

Clossalboas said:
http://s1065.photobucket.com/albums/u400/colossalboas/Jay - Creative Exotics/
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So, as far as I can tell, you gave him a total of $800, correct (the pics are so small I can barely see anything)? Do you have confirmation numbers for those receipts?

If you did, in fact give him $800, then there should be a refund of $175 because you would lose the 50% non-refundable holding fee of $625.

Can you possibly post the emails AFTER things went sour? He asked you to give him some time to get his shipping supplies in order and then no emails? :shrug01: There's something missing here.....
 
Clossalboas said:
The total was $1250 this was to include the shipping to me. He was suppose to ship on the 31st of October but didn't.
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Also, this struck me as a little odd; in the emails you just posted, it sounded like he wasn't including shipping in the $1250 and he wanted you to pay for part of the shipping judging by him telling you estimates on the price. It seems strange that someone would tell the buyer what the shipping was going to be if it was included in the overall price.
 
Creative Exotics said:
Every message was a lie from day 1 With Samantha, It Started out as $850-$1100 On the 30th of September. Only had $300 sent and was late. Than every other arranged payments were all missed! Every word that comes out of her mouth is a lie! Like i said she has 2 accounts on RC that she has screwed people on both without proper refunds.... Seriously

Creative Exotics
Jay Clark
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The way I'm reading this post, he is saying that the first payment should have been 850-1100 and he only got 300, not that he got 300 total. After this he keeps saying that he never got the full payment but he doesn't specify how much he did get. I think he just didn't correct people when they started saying only 300. Shady, that's true, but I still don't see proof of payment in full from Samantha either. Can you provide proof that you paid him the remainder?
 
I agree with what Jonathan just said, I only see the initial 300 that was suppose to be the 50% non refundable deposit. He did mention this in his TOS that it had to be 50% upfront AND that he would not ship past 31 October. So by his TOS he is correct? Or at least that is how I see it.
 
I can make the screen shots bigger for you. The original total was $1100 for group. He charged $150 for shipping making the total $1250. I will take a photo of the reciept that I put directly into his account. Alot of this stuff went on through text msg. I can post some of the emails where he promised to ship and yet never did... I have spoken with a lawyer and he has told me he has no right to take the money and not send anything, he either ships or he refunds. He also used the excuse "he couldnt find any heat packets"
 
Clossalboas said:
I can make the screen shots bigger for you. The original total was $1100 for group. He charged $150 for shipping making the total $1250. I will take a photo of the reciept that I put directly into his account. Alot of this stuff went on through text msg. I can post some of the emails where he promised to ship and yet never did... I have spoken with a lawyer and he has told me he has no right to take the money and not send anything, he either ships or he refunds. He also used the excuse "he couldnt find any heat packets"
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I'm still only calculating a $800 deposit into his account which again is not full payment and considering $1250 is the "final price" and 50% of that is $625, you're still only entitled to a $175 refund. If his terms were clear (which they seem they were), the $625 you can't get back. Period. That's the point of a non-refundable deposit: IT'S NON-REFUNDABLE. No amount of lawyer power is going to work against clear terms of business.

You have yet to prove that you paid him in full, whether that amount was $1100 or $1250.

On a side note, something really isn't adding up: if the final price was $1250 and you claim to have paid that in full, in the email he sent to you (in your screenshots) he seems like he wants you to pay half of the shipping; that's why he was giving you an estimate. You're claiming you paid him $1250 and shipping was included but the emails say different.

Can you post the missing $450 deposit into his account AND all emails following the ones you already posted including the one where the final price was $1250 shipped and not $1250 + shipping?
 
Im looking for the receipt then I can take a picture and post it. If I didnt pay him why would he be sending me all the flight bookings he has made? And claiming he was sending them on a certain day. He wouldnt be saying it if i didnt pay him.
 
Clossalboas said:
. I have spoken with a lawyer and he has told me he has no right to take the money and not send anything, he either ships or he refunds.
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What is the name of your attorney? You specifically discussed nonrefundable deposits? Perhaps you misheard his reply. Or perhaps you made up the attorney.
 
Clossalboas said:
Im looking for the receipt then I can take a picture and post it. If I didnt pay him why would he be sending me all the flight bookings he has made? And claiming he was sending them on a certain day. He wouldnt be saying it if i didnt pay him.
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Not necessarily true, especially if he is going on good faith that you will pay him the full amount soon. I know if I was on a payment plan contract with a buyer had the deposit down, I would be making shipping arrangements in advance....way in advance so everything would go smoothly on the day of shipment.

When it comes to BOIs, I really try not to go off of assumptions when making judgement calls on people and seeing as you currently are only showing partial payment, that's what I'll believe until more proof is provided. It's up to you to prove your case and if I was making a BOI thread about someone, I would have all my ducks in a row so I had an unshakable foundation to base my claims off of instead of going back and forth trying to scrape up evidence here and there. But that's just me and I might just be considered anal retentive. :shrug01:
 
Clossalboas said:
This was the bank account where the 4450 was deposited

Justin Clark
Account#8645299
Institution number #010
Branch number #02920
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This really doesn't prove that you gave him anything. It proves that you have his bank information...which I guess you have no problem posting on a public forum.

If you deposited the $450 into his account, there is a record of it; please provide receipt of that deposit.
 
Clossalboas said:
I have emails showing that he was also going to refund my full payment. Would that count for more then the $625 refund?
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Why don't you just post ALL emails related to this issue (from first to last contact) instead of cherry picking ones you think will help your cause? Just take a few minutes, get all your evidence and then come back instead of scattering evidence around in multiple posts.

We'll give you time and we're more than happy that you decided to come back to try and clear the air; just try to make your argument a little more cohesive.
 
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