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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

Herpster said:
Look at what she had the balls to do: my paypal is now frozen:

Hello Charles Kimmel,

Your sender asked his or her bank to reverse the payment for the following
transaction:


Sender’s name: Christina Horn
Sender’s email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5WJ38939NU842383U

Transaction date: Apr 9, 2010
Transaction amount: $800.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 9D386605NX8357244
Case number: PP-000-971-749-747


We need additional information from you within the next 7 days. Please log
in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to see the
details of this case. There, you can enter any information regarding this
case that will help us fight the reversal on your behalf.

Thanks,

PayPal
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How could they possibly justify doing this?
The money was not theirs to begin with. It was sent to them to be sent to Maggie.
First they don't send all the money and now they want what did actually go to Maggie!
I am in complete shock right now that this could actually happen.
 
Iguanachic said:
True there are two of them BUT as a mother she should have some sense of compassion and empathy for another mother suffering. The fact that she doesn't is scary.
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Yea especially at age 21 or 22. I'm a lot more aware now than I was at that age, of all the untrustworthy scum on this earth....she's that young and she's ONE of them! That's screaming socio/psychopath to me.
At this point she fits the profile of a serial killer. She reminds me of the women who kill pregnant women to steal their babies.
 
serpentsden said:
Actually I think the amount they stolen in the Auction scam is closer to $4000.00 I don't know how much they stolen from the other scams.

Hopefully someone will pay a visit to them!! :dgrin:

Jeff & Cristina Wise
4204 Drummond Square
Flint, MI 48504

:2gunsfiri
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which makes it that much more low... if that's really even possible.
 
This is just sooo wrong on so many levels. I just don't even have the words...If someone could PM me Maggie's mailing address, I will get her something in the mail tomorrow.
I've posted links on my personal facebook page, sent it to all my friends, posted it on my Gecko Greatness facebook page, and added the banner to my web-page. Off to see where else I can post it.
 
If anyone needs to get anything to Dave... I can get it to him on the 12th when we both will be in Taylor Michigan.. Dave and I set up right next to each other... Anything at all....
 
liltanker said:
Yea especially at age 21 or 22. I'm a lot more aware now than I was at that age, of all the untrustworthy scum on this earth....she's that young and she's ONE of them! That's screaming socio/psychopath to me.
At this point she fits the profile of a serial killer. She reminds me of the women who kill pregnant women to steal their babies.
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I honestly was thinking the same thing. They have already done so many horrific things, what's to say they would not do that, to keep the ploy going for as long as possible:(:(:angry::angry:
 
crissabella said:
I honestly was thinking the same thing. They have already done so many horrific things, what's to say they would not do that, to keep the ploy going for as long as possible:(:(:angry::angry:
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i think that's a little far fetched and shouldn't even be brought up in this conversation. but then again, that's just me.
 
bradleymoore said:
i think that's a little far fetched and shouldn't even be brought up in this conversation. but then again, that's just me.
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Bradley, this is nothing personal so please don't take it that way, but these two are clearly sociopaths. They've shown they're capable of committing horrible deeds with no remorse. On top of all that there's a better chance that this was a long planned out scheme.

As far fetched as it may sound. It being far fetched is simply for those that have the "How could somebody do that..." type reaction. I've seen the snowball grow when dealing with sociopaths. There's no telling what these people are capable of.

I'd have to say you're way off by saying it's far fetched.
 
dturner100 said:
Bradley, this is nothing personal so please don't take it that way, but these two are clearly sociopaths. They've shown they're capable of committing horrible deeds with no remorse. On top of all that there's a better chance that this was a long planned out scheme.

As far fetched as it may sound. It being far fetched is simply for those that have the "How could somebody do that..." type reaction. I've seen the snowball grow when dealing with sociopaths. There's no telling what these people are capable of.

I'd have to say you're way off by saying it's far fetched.
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i can understand that as well as most, but even pointing in the direction of something like that is somewhat sickening to me. i understand that sometimes thing start out as small dirty deeds, but come on... that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. btw, no offense taken. :)
 
Sorry forgot this:
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Looking at the "Wises" paypal, the funds were never taken out and put in the "Wises" bank account, so they never came out of her bank. She would have to file the dispute directly with paypal right?
 
I have read every post, it hasn't been easy at times and I just didn't know what to say. My ulcer hasn't acted up for years and todays relevation just turned it on full blast. Dammit!! I have this sick feeling in my stomach and just pray that they don't walk away like Chris Johnson did. I am a little more hopeful when I see the reporters actually starting to respond. They seem to have access and the right connections to get things moving along. These thieves need to pay dearly for their actions.

Maggie, I am so sorry for the loss of your husband Chuck, learned of his untimely passing right here in this thread, thought he had been a little quiet lately. I only knew him from his bulldog personality here and always enjoyed reading his posts. I love how everyone here has pulled together to try to help out during these tough times, they all rock. Best wishes to you and your girls during this rough time, this has been awful and you should not have to have this on your table to deal with too.

It's taken me almost an hour to write this... bet the thread is at least another page longer by now..... sigh.
 
Casey Hulse said:
Sorry forgot this:
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Looking at the "Wises" paypal, the funds were never taken out and put in the "Wises" bank account, so they never came out of her bank. She would have to file the dispute directly with paypal right?
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That's what I was thinking too!
Went straight to and straight from the paypal account without her bank being involved.
 
I would not be surprised if they did this just to be vindictive. They knew a dispute would freeze Maggie’s account preventing anyone else from sending her money and on the off chance they win the dispute they get $800.
 
bradleymoore said:
i think that's a little far fetched and shouldn't even be brought up in this conversation. but then again, that's just me.
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I apologize if i offended anyone, that was not my intention and your right, this wasn't the place for my comment, but honestly, that is something i was thinking about, just because i am pregnant. And that is all i'll say on the subject.
 
liltanker said:
Yea especially at age 21 or 22. I'm a lot more aware now than I was at that age, of all the untrustworthy scum on this earth....she's that young and she's ONE of them! That's screaming socio/psychopath to me.
At this point she fits the profile of a serial killer. She reminds me of the women who kill pregnant women to steal their babies.
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Don't give her any ideas.
 
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