Both of them should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and nothing less.
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I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?
So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.
But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.
Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.
I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.
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Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.
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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie
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I'll throw a short version of my story... I'm working 12-13 hours a day right now and have been for the past 3 weeks, so I'm barely awake.
DAND is correct, that I only received $440 from Christina and Jeff. I was supposed to receive another... i believe $490? something like that. Anyway, Christina calls me one night right around when a couple of the auctions are to end, and tells me there's a big stink about me buying a het pied girl from Kyle. (It's a long story, but the short version is I'd gotten a check for the 2 days work I had done before Sandra's daughter died, and when I got back to the jobsite that check was there and I hadn't been expecting it. Sandra convinced me to jump on the deal Kyle offered that night, because she knew I'd given up big plans because of the funeral expenses)
Anyway, Christina calls me and tells me people are talking and upset that I bought the snake, but no one had said anything to me. I had already told her to not do anymore auctions for us, but that the last two running would be the final one's we'd accept. We still had to buy a headstone, and that's what the money was to go for. So when she first told me, I said "f*** it, send it all to maggie." Christina said basically "no, no, the money was raised for you guys, and you still need it" Eventually I agreed and let the guilty feelings go, and by the end of the conversation, I was expecting we'd receive that money shortly...
3 weeks later, I asked Christina about it since she hadn't contacted me about it. She said "oh, I thought you said to send that money to Maggie, so I did." She went on to elaborate something about how it had come in the nick of time to get to maggie to cover the services or cremation. I can't remember exactly. I was kind of upset, because I was pretty sure we'd cleared that up and the money would be coming our way. As it was though, I chalked it up to miscommunication and just let it go...
Now I hear from Maggie the other day about how she hasn't received half the money she's owed, and read a screenshot of some messages between her and Christina where Christina and Jeff apparently took it upon themselves to pay a $700 light bill (really? $700 light bill??) so their lights wouldn't get cut off... without letting Maggie know until after the fact. Then it apprently cost $800 ($100 a night hotel supposedly) to go out of town for Jeff's uncle or something that was sick or died or something...
That's pretty much my story, and I can get more into detail after I get laid off this week and can sit at home and relax and type.
Whatever the case may be, it's not looking good for the Wise's, and I know a few people who had qualms about them handling everything like they did... I guess greed took over?
DAND is correct, that I only received $440 from Christina and Jeff. I was supposed to receive another... i believe $490? something like that. Anyway, Christina calls me one night right around when a couple of the auctions are to end, and tells me there's a big stink about me buying a het pied girl from Kyle. (It's a long story, but the short version is I'd gotten a check for the 2 days work I had done before Sandra's daughter died, and when I got back to the jobsite that check was there and I hadn't been expecting it. Sandra convinced me to jump on the deal Kyle offered that night, because she knew I'd given up big plans because of the funeral expenses)
Anyway, Christina calls me and tells me people are talking and upset that I bought the snake, but no one had said anything to me. I had already told her to not do anymore auctions for us, but that the last two running would be the final one's we'd accept. We still had to buy a headstone, and that's what the money was to go for. So when she first told me, I said "f*** it, send it all to maggie." Christina said basically "no, no, the money was raised for you guys, and you still need it" Eventually I agreed and let the guilty feelings go, and by the end of the conversation, I was expecting we'd receive that money shortly...
3 weeks later, I asked Christina about it since she hadn't contacted me about it. She said "oh, I thought you said to send that money to Maggie, so I did." She went on to elaborate something about how it had come in the nick of time to get to maggie to cover the services or cremation. I can't remember exactly. I was kind of upset, because I was pretty sure we'd cleared that up and the money would be coming our way. As it was though, I chalked it up to miscommunication and just let it go...
Now I hear from Maggie the other day about how she hasn't received half the money she's owed, and read a screenshot of some messages between her and Christina where Christina and Jeff apparently took it upon themselves to pay a $700 light bill (really? $700 light bill??) so their lights wouldn't get cut off... without letting Maggie know until after the fact. Then it apprently cost $800 ($100 a night hotel supposedly) to go out of town for Jeff's uncle or something that was sick or died or something...
That's pretty much my story, and I can get more into detail after I get laid off this week and can sit at home and relax and type.
Whatever the case may be, it's not looking good for the Wise's, and I know a few people who had qualms about them handling everything like they did... I guess greed took over?
Now can you see why I NEVER went to HerperForums or advocated Jeff as a moderator? Hell, I didnt even want to accept until someone OTHER than Jeff nominated me.
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While she was the spokesperson Jeff was in the background feeding her information every time we spoke on the phone. So he is no better as far as I am concerned.
And a penny that has been run over by a train has more worth then their reputation and honor combined.
Running for Mod. Ha. I really cant believe this! This is a all new low on the b.o.i. And thats pretty bad. There making ed clark look good
any idea on how to resolve any of it?
if you notice down at the bottom of the screen.... a related thread about them lying from ed clark.
Resolve it? send Maggie her money....publicly grovel and bed for mercy...then sink back ito the cave of evil they came from
Wow... I am appalled. While I wasn't able to donate anything, I was putting in good words for the Wise's since I was impressed with what they were doing. I see now that my impression was misplaced, and it is awful to see. Once again, I lose faith in humanity. How awful...
I hope this is resolved swiftly. What goes around comes around, guys, and this one is going to be a doozy...
I hope this is resolved swiftly
. What goes around comes around, guys, and this one is going to be a doozy...
I am searching online to see if their is any legal recourse that Maggie, Rick, the people who donated money and the people who donated snakes can take.
I guess Jeff's new pizza shop and Christina's new snakes are more important than being upstanding individuals who actually care and represent something.
I guess Jeff's new pizza shop and Christina's new snakes are more important than being upstanding individuals who actually care and represent something.
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I attempted to prior to posting this and she held firm to her story. I gave her a number of chances and she balked on them all. He was in the background and she was parroting things he said.
They had better hope there isn't life after death because if there is Chuck is going give it to them but good.
One other question I have is this, and it's a biggie.
In some of the conversations with Maggie, Christina's excuse is that some people backed out of their winning auctions. I'd really like to know WHO, and what happened to the animal or item that was put up, if no one paid. Was the second highest bidder contacted? Was it relisted? Was anyone even NOTIFIED that the auction winner backed out? Crummy excuses is what it sounds like to me.
I really want to make a post, and probably will after this job I'm on is over. But I'd like to see everyone post in it that donated an animal or item, or cash, or won an auction... and total up exactly how much was sent.
I honestly think the donors are the one's that will have to press for legal action. The charitable donations were not sent to where they were intended, and instead used for personal gain. Sounds like fraud or outright theft to me. Considering this hurt Maggie, who is already suffering greatly, I hope they get the BOOK thrown at them.
In some of the conversations with Maggie, Christina's excuse is that some people backed out of their winning auctions. I'd really like to know WHO, and what happened to the animal or item that was put up, if no one paid. Was the second highest bidder contacted? Was it relisted? Was anyone even NOTIFIED that the auction winner backed out? Crummy excuses is what it sounds like to me.
I really want to make a post, and probably will after this job I'm on is over. But I'd like to see everyone post in it that donated an animal or item, or cash, or won an auction... and total up exactly how much was sent.
I honestly think the donors are the one's that will have to press for legal action. The charitable donations were not sent to where they were intended, and instead used for personal gain. Sounds like fraud or outright theft to me. Considering this hurt Maggie, who is already suffering greatly, I hope they get the BOOK thrown at them.
Even if they sent the money out today, it would NOT clear their name with me. This is NOT how you treat people. They had better triple the donations that they collected and donate that before I would consider them to be anything other than what they have proven to be, even before this. I bid on almost EVERY auction just so I could make sure I would have some sort of record to how much was in fact donated.
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My dawg has the bluuues.
When I saw the title to this thread, I thought it to be another joke. I'm sharing the same sickness in the pit of my stomach AND disbelief as most people that are reading this. I only hope that the rest of the money that we sent the Wise's finds it's way to Maggie. Unbelievable!!!
if you notice down at the bottom of the screen.... a related thread about them lying from ed clark.
I bumped that thread with a public apology to Ed and a link to this.
if you notice down at the bottom of the screen.... a related thread about them lying from ed clark.
Yea its like he knew but he didnt. i am glad that thread has been revived. i would like to see them gone just like ed. i think i was in shock at first and didnt really have a response. after all the good you think they did, and the phone convo's. To only find out there scamming turds like the people they were posting against! thieving little
!!!! i am sickened.
oh trust me it would not set things right with me either....but it would make things how they should be and the rest of us could move on without ever having to deal with them again
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How about a nice friendly class action law suit? 
Well your gonna have to take a screen shot and e-mail it to him because he wont see it for another 327 days 4 hours and 26 mins. Lol.
Really there isnt much to apologize to ed about. weasels can smell other Weasels!