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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

I am still playing cath up. I am only on page 32. I looked down to see who was viewing and saw MRs Wise. If she has commented I apologize for the screen shot. I am still several pages back.

Here it is.

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Maggie, could you please PM or email me your mailing address with your daughters names please. I dont know what I can do but I will send them a little something right now.
 
Dean,

I know I am at work and can't talk to the boys right now. But I do know they will be ok with their movies they got at Christmas time going to Maggie's girls. I will explain it to them later.
 
crissabella said:
They can try, but they're gonna stick out like sore thumbs in the reptile community now, so i don't think they could be invisible even if they hid behind a mountain!
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I really don't think Christina could hide behind much of anything. lol
 
Maggie,

I know you don't know me, but I am willing to send your girls a couple movies, if you could just tell me what type of movies they like. I probably have a few around that they would like.

Let me know.

Thanks

Brandi
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Maggie, I am TRULY sorry that this happened to you. I only wish I would have tried to email you when I had my suspicions regarding the funds. I just didnt want to make you anymore upset than you already were during this. These funds were for you and I donated so YOU and your children would be ok, not for the enhancement of WiseReptiles.

There is so much more that they asked me to do, all in your name. I HAD to draw a line somewhere, like donating so they could drive down to visit you and all of you could go to DisneyWorld with the kids. I would have loved to help with that cause, but I didnt have direct contact with you to even consider it.
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Thanks. Honestly, the last thing I wanted was them around. Plus, the LAST place I would take my kids is Disney. Would it be great for them, yes, but we went a few times as a family and I know it would devastate me, it would probably have hurt the girls as well. She kept saying they were going to come here and I actually told them no, we had family coming, etc. - what the hell would I want them, their kids and their 2 dogs coming to my house - maybe they were going to look around the house for stuff to steal..........................
 
to clear up a couple more things I keep seeing floating around.... yes I knew about the drugs but I didnt know what to do I was worried.
No the auctions and donations stopped a long time ago... I will get the date from paypal
Also I am trying to sell the snakes and cresteds to have money given to maggie whoever gets them can have the money sent right to her. I am talking with someone about picking them up.
I never used her money to buy the hets or the albino. That money was from my mom she knew I wanted ball pythons and hadent gave me christmas or my birthday yet along with loaning me alittle more till we get taxes. I could careless if you believe me or not on this. I never paid 1000 for the snakes they was on a payment plan
 
Herpster said:
Thanks. Honestly, the last thing I wanted was them around. Plus, the LAST place I would take my kids is Disney. Would it be great for them, yes, but we went a few times as a family and I know it would devastate me, it would probably have hurt the girls as well. She kept saying they were going to come here and I actually told them no, we had family coming, etc. - what the hell would I want them, their kids and their 2 dogs coming to my house - maybe they were going to look around the house for stuff to steal..........................
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I offered to come me and jeff only because you asked us to come. I know everyone is mad at me and this is getting way out of hand people are stretching the truth and making up lies and stuff now. I did send the kids there movies I promise annie on the phone I sent them out and told you they was on the way. I dont know why they didnt arrive and never received them back.
 
Mrs_wise_reptiles said:
to clear up a couple more things I keep seeing floating around.... yes I knew about the drugs but I didnt know what to do I was worried.
No the auctions and donations stopped a long time ago... I will get the date from paypal
Also I am trying to sell the snakes and cresteds to have money given to maggie whoever gets them can have the money sent right to her. I am talking with someone about picking them up.
I never used her money to buy the hets or the albino. That money was from my mom she knew I wanted ball pythons and hadent gave me christmas or my birthday yet along with loaning me alittle more till we get taxes. I could careless if you believe me or not on this. I never paid 1000 for the snakes they was on a payment plan
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Will you just please send Maggie HER money. Whatever excuses/reasons you may have for recent events taking place, I don't see how it could possibly justify anything. Just please just send Maggie her money.
 
Who has stretched what truth and where, Christina? You've been caught in lies you swore were the truth, and you still think anyone will believe a word out of your thieving mouth?

My brother was a druggie, and growing up with him I learned there's always someone else you can blame for everything. :thumbsup:

You've got a lot of money to pay back, shouldn't you be getting some yard sale signs ready or something?
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Reptiles = Drugs? LoL I know they are addicting but that is ridiculous to think that we will believe that she had nothing to do with it. I mean, how do you go and spend 1k on some ball pythons from a deal in chat that you cannot afford to do? By the way, it wasnt Jeff that made that deal, it was his other half.

And, as for the drug issue, did she NOT know he had a drug problem BEFORE she married him. All I am seeing are excuses, nothing more.
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If one is doing drugs it's very likely a shared habit. :ack2:

Get off the drugs and don't put your children at risk being in the hands of Children & Youth
 
Mrs_wise_reptiles said:
to clear up a couple more things I keep seeing floating around.... yes I knew about the drugs but I didnt know what to do I was worried.
No the auctions and donations stopped a long time ago... I will get the date from paypal
Also I am trying to sell the snakes and cresteds to have money given to maggie whoever gets them can have the money sent right to her. I am talking with someone about picking them up.
I never used her money to buy the hets or the albino. That money was from my mom she knew I wanted ball pythons and hadent gave me christmas or my birthday yet along with loaning me alittle more till we get taxes. I could careless if you believe me or not on this. I never paid 1000 for the snakes they was on a payment plan
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So let me get this BS straight er.. I mean your story. You "borrowed" money from your mother to buy snakes but "used" money from the Maggie fund to pay your bills and stay in a 100.00 a night hotel room? Too good for Motel 6 or did they NOT leave the light on for you?
 
Christina,

I again will ask how much are you able to pay her right now? I understand you don't have the full amount (not really because you never should of spent it) but I want to know how much you can send her right now.
 
MagickalMorphs said:
So they do have children? I've got family who work for the DHHS who would be mighty interested in parents with drug problems and money theft. I'm sure they could pass that along to the appropriate folks in MI.
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I personally don't think the Wises children should have to suffer the consequences of Children & Youth, maybe the idea should be as a awake up call to get off the drugs and stop putting their children at risk to such agencies.
 
I must say something that's gonna make a few people mad ( even some friends on here ), but last night on chat, and on this thread I've heard at least 5 respected members say "I knew there was something fishy about this from the start."

Well why didn't you say something to the public? Not that anybody had anything to do with the whole thing except for the accused, but a couple people that suspected this to be "fishy" are WELL KNOWN and RESPECTED member.

I'm sure everybody knows where I'm going. We need to protect eachother from stuff like this as a community.
 
dturner100 said:
I must say something that's gonna make a few people mad ( even some friends on here ), but last night on chat, and on this thread I've heard at least 5 respected members say "I knew there was something fishy about this from the start."

Well why didn't you say something to the public? Not that anybody had anything to do with the whole thing except for the accused, but a couple people that suspected this to be "fishy" are WELL KNOWN and RESPECTED member.

I'm sure everybody knows where I'm going. We need to protect eachother from stuff like this as a community.
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You know as well as anyone that without proof, you've got nothing. It was brought out when proof was available.
 
OK I donated and as Matt stated he received animals from me through the auction.

Now anybody who searches me will see I don't post much and I don't get involved in much on any forum. Basically because there is always crap like this going on. Actually I think this is actually an all time low. I did not know Chuck at all but the situation hit close to home so I donated.

So to the two pieces of work in Flint or wherever how can you live with youselves messing with someones kids like this knowing what they just went through. Maybe it is time for all of us to get in touch with child services and see how like people messing with your kids.

And for Jeff if your poor knee hurts go to the friggin' doctor.

As like so many on here I can't do much, but LMK and I'll do what I can since my donation went for pain killers.

Brian
 
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