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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

sadly very limited fund
but I the dvds I listed to you maggie are yours just pm me the addy to send them. ( list in your pm ). Ican get them there in like 4-7 days ( or what everprioty mail speed is ) it be enough anime to keep the girls entertain for at least 2-3 full days.
 
someone needs to go to local reptile shows and hand out flyers to people coming in wit their pic and what they did on them. do it at every show all over the US

I will have a new sign (or maybe I'll just have to make another), or maybe a banner and flyers with a link to this thread for the shows I vend. Like what was posted in the pm to them from Maggie, "I am sure he (DAND) will enjoy destroying your name and your business". :dancer01: The last person who screwed with me has his sign that I take to every show I vend and now these two will too. I'll pass it out to every vendor and every customer or attendee at the shows.
 
I don't think we can actually do that legally ( though it would be nice ) but you've got a good idea man. At least let EVERY vendor at ALL shows know what happened if they don't already know.


I pay for my table space and the promoters of the shows I vend allow me to post my sign. I've dropped shows that wouldn't allow me to display my sign. But this is another story that has actually been discussed and debated before. Nonetheless, the Wise's will now have me as their new promotions manager. :dgrin:
 
Jeff, you have until tomorrow morning to contact me before I file a complaint. I know you are in over your head right now but... there are solutions to the problem if you start to think rationally. Dont make this worse on yourself or your family.
 
DAND ain't kidding. I know who screwed him. My friends know who screwed him. I bet if I sold an animal to someone locally they would know who screwed him.

Having been in the reptile hobby for a few years, I have seen my share of disgusting stories.

Never has a story been so disgusting that it makes me want to vomit my skeleton up into a pile on the floor in front of me. Until now. :>Puke<:

People like Jeff and Christina Wise redefine low life behavior in stealing from a grieving family.

I don't donate to anything---and I'm broke at the moment. I'm putting the Paypal gift on my credit card.

Let's promise to do two things:

1.) Send money to Maggie.
2.) Turn Jeff and Christina Wise into the proper authorities.
 
I pay for my table space and the promoters of the shows I vend allow me to post my sign. I've dropped shows that wouldn't allow me to display my sign. But this is another story that has actually been discussed and debated before. Nonetheless, the Wise's will now have me as their new promotions manager. :dgrin:

Cool, Cool. I stand corrected.
 
I just sent this message to the WNY Herpetological Society-

Beware-Wise Reptiles

The members of Faunaclassifieds.com are getting the word out on a pair of scammers, and I wanted to make you aware of what's happening.

Back in March, a member of Fauna passed away. The forum community surrounded this member's family in their time of grief and one of those members started staging auctions to collect funds to help Chuck's widow and children.

They also ran auctions to assist another member in paying for the funeral of his deceased step-daughter.

Well...fast forward a few months, and people started questioning whether Maggie-Chuck's widow-had received the money collected from those auctions.

Well, she got some of it...but the rest was used by the members who organized the auctions.

The mourning step-father received very little...

It's a TRAIN WRECK!!!

Now legal actions are being set in motion.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179622

I just wanted the members of WNYHS to be aware of these people and get the word out to the community so they can be stopped.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Donna Moorhouse
 
headed down to texas huh? i'd imagine them drugs are a little cheaper the closer you get to the mexican border. PAY UP!! Well atleast you know that bum knee will get some rest while your sitting in prison!!
 
Jeff, you have until tomorrow morning to contact me before I file a complaint. I know you are in over your head right now but... there are solutions to the problem if you start to think rationally. Dont make this worse on yourself or your family.

Trying to downplay it as if they are just people that fell on hard times, is not working for me.:shrug01:

They just thumbed their noses at the people that really matter "MAGGIE" if they pay attention to you now..and try and work with you....ummmmm:ack2:
 
Ok just re-read my post and wanted to clarify as "free vacation" (kind of) sounded a little fishy....and as if you need more of that. lol You get here and the rest is on us!! ;)

Thank you so much. That is very sweet and we actually have some of his family in AZ, so I will definitely visit you one day, promise!
 
What a sad situation.

Jeff and Christina, by remaining silent you are only digging the hole deeper and delaying the inevitable. You can still fix this.

Maggie and Dean, I am so sorry for you and yours for the suffering these criminals have inflicted upon you.
 
I am a vendor at the taylor reptile show, if they attend a show in michigan taylor would be the closest. I dont know where to get a picture of them but i'll put one up at my table next time i vend there if i can find a pic.
 
I am a vendor at the taylor reptile show, if they attend a show in michigan taylor would be the closest. I dont know where to get a picture of them but i'll put one up at my table next time i vend there if i can find a pic.

There are three pics of them in this thread :)
 
Maggie, since your paypal address is posted publicly make sure you have a secure password. Something with capitol letters, lowercase letters, numbers, and symbols. No words, names, dates that people can try to hack.
 
PLS! Stop telling them which shows NOT to show up at.:(


I thought the point was to keep them out of the shows? Its not like you can arrest them if they show up, I just would rather not have them showing up and spending stolen money and participating in our hobby.
 
Guess I'll need to pick up some more printer ink. :dgrin:
 

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Trying to downplay it as if they are just people that fell on hard times, is not working for me.:shrug01:

They just thumbed their noses at the people that really matter "MAGGIE" if they pay attention to you now..and try and work with you....ummmmm:ack2:

Deb, honestly, I used to care about what you thought about me but you have proven to me that its a waste of my time to do so. I am just trying to resolve a situation, unlike you. You can continue to keep on bashing me here and wherever you see fit.

I havent downplayed anything that they have done here. All I am trying to do is get them to the table to repay what they stole, just like anyone in contact with them is trying to do. Is it really so wrong of me to do so just because you think I was involved in some sort of way?

If you "formally" want to accuse me of something, please come at me with some proof OTHER than the fact I bid on auctions;)
 
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