Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

[Vypyrz]

Concerning the Wises. Something that I noticed, maybe 50-60 pages back was some screen names and e-mail addresses that were used with religious and other connotations, as well as, something about advice for twins, etc... This had me wondering what other online communities they may have participated in and conducted some type of similar operation, as far as, collecting money, disappearing, and resurfacing later in a different community, that never got reported. So I was kind of wondering if anyone with the awesome computer skills, that I lack, has checked it out, or posted links to this thread in some of those communities to see if any one else comes forward. I just find it hard to believe, with the legnths they went to to cover their tracks, that this is the first incident.

Wow, I didn't have to wait long for that suspicion to check out...

 

[SirenSanJose]

Hi- I am not a retile/exotic breeder, but Christine Wise ended up going to a website I am a member of called "Diaperswappers.com".
She stole images from an old blog where a family was pregnant with triplets, posted it in our "Trying to Conceive" forum and made up a story about how she just found out she was pregnant with triplets so they needed free stuff to help them out. She posted an Ultrasound picture but removed the date off the top (fishy again!).
A few of us thought her posting was fishy, because of her recently joining and then making a post saying she wanted twins.. then a week later saying she was preggers with 3.. "surprise"!! And of course, right after that, asking for handouts.
After a google search, we found the REAL ultrasound pictures stamped 2001, and sadly, the REAL family lost the triplet children at 27 weeks, I believe.
We started searching more and found this forum with more info on her.
Here is a link to the first posting in Trying to Conceive:
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=988096
2nd post where she announces she is pregnant with triplets:
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=995092
3rd post where she is asking for free things because "money is tight":
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=980873

Our moderators on Diaperswappers do not allow posts like this to stay up long, so it could be removed soon. I have screen shots, if anyone needs them.

I am mainly posting this here to show that "Cwise87", Christine Wise is scamming a lot of people, not just limited to one community. I hope y'all find her and the authorities do something ASAP. Good luck!

Wow, thank you for notifying us! Have you sent a moderator of your board a link to this thread? and/or posted this link in the threads on your board? I think everyone deserves to know the kind of person they're dealing with here!

 

[Vintagechic]

Wow, thank you for notifying us! Have you sent a moderator of your board a link to this thread? and/or posted this link in the threads on your board? I think everyone deserves to know the kind of person they're dealing with here!

I can't post a link on the our forums without getting banned. They don't allow "non happy" posts on DS. I am forwarding the info to a moderator, hoping it doesn't get brushed under the rug.

 

[crissabella]

Hi- I am not a retile/exotic breeder, but Christine Wise ended up going to a website I am a member of called "Diaperswappers.com".
She stole images from an old blog where a family was pregnant with triplets, posted it in our "Trying to Conceive" forum and made up a story about how she just found out she was pregnant with triplets so they needed free stuff to help them out. She posted an Ultrasound picture but removed the date off the top (fishy again!).
A few of us thought her posting was fishy, because of her recently joining and then making a post saying she wanted twins.. then a week later saying she was preggers with 3.. "surprise"!! And of course, right after that, asking for handouts.
After a google search, we found the REAL ultrasound pictures stamped 2001, and sadly, the REAL family lost the triplet children at 27 weeks, I believe.
We started searching more and found this forum with more info on her.
Here is a link to the first posting in Trying to Conceive:
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=988096
2nd post where she announces she is pregnant with triplets:
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=995092
3rd post where she is asking for free things because "money is tight":
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=980873

Our moderators on Diaperswappers do not allow posts like this to stay up long, so it could be removed soon. I have screen shots, if anyone needs them.

I am mainly posting this here to show that "Cwise87", Christine Wise is scamming a lot of people, not just limited to one community. I hope y'all find her and the authorities do something ASAP. Good luck!

Christina sent me PM'S offering to "help" me with saving money and offering her advice on Twins, saying "Call me, i'd be happy to help you". All i can say is if she was trying to somehow drag me into her web of lies, she would have picked on the wrong person

 

[lanceheads]

My favorite thread was where she's been pregnant since 2001! hahahahahaha.
What a scammer!

Randal Berry

 

[SirenSanJose]

I can't post a link on the our forums without getting banned. They don't allow "non happy" posts on DS. I am forwarding the info to a moderator, hoping it doesn't get brushed under the rug.

Fair enough. I hope the mod does something and makes it clear your members shouldn't deal with this woman, though! I'd hate for yet another person to get taken by her.

If the mods don't do anything, would you get in trouble if you suggested other members google "Christine Wise"
and "fauna" as an explination? That's not outright "non-happy" .

Alternately again if the mods don't take action, I'm certain someone here would be happy to join the board just to post the link (I would do so) since we have nothing to "lose" by being banned on a forum we don't post on. (I haven't done so already because it seems disrespectful to butt in to someone else's forum, but I would do so to spread the information if you wanted beause I feel it's important.)

 

[SirenSanJose]

Guh, make that "Christina Wise", not "christine". I keep doing that.

 

[Vintagechic]

Fair enough. I hope the mod does something and makes it clear your members shouldn't deal with this woman, though! I'd hate for yet another person to get taken by her.

If the mods don't do anything, would you get in trouble if you suggested other members google "Christine Wise"
and "fauna" as an explination? That's not outright "non-happy" .

Alternately again if the mods don't take action, I'm certain someone here would be happy to join the board just to post the link (I would do so) since we have nothing to "lose" by being banned on a forum we don't post on. (I haven't done so already because it seems disrespectful to butt in to someone else's forum, but I would do so to spread the information if you wanted beause I feel it's important.)

My guess is she will definitely be banned. It is only a matter of time before this is all hidden from public view though.
We have a "drama blog" where everything that is removed from DS is talked about... we have posted her info there and links to this forum, too.
Many DSers lurk the drama blog, so the word will get out from there.
Starting at post #436, we're talking about Christine/cwise87:
http://thedramaofdiaperswappers.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/if-you-have-to-ask/#comments

You are free to join the discussion there!

 

[Lucille]

The Wises have been reading this thread. They must be congratulating each other after having taken yet another community.

It seems they prey upon those who want to help others.

I hope there is a special place in Hell for people who prey on the innocent. But, no need to wait until they collect their just rewards in the hereafter.
I think when they came here to Fauna, they did not realize the talent, persistence, and community feelings here. And the many fine men and women here who, like Chuck, are the finest on earth but who can be badass when it comes to going after liars, cheats and scammers.


Those who are computer savvy and can collect info and take screen shots are especially valuable now. But each of us can help in the way we know how, collecting info, putting up stuff for donation, donating funds, and as always expressing feelings to provide solidarity for the community.

When they screwed this community, they made a big mistake........

 

[DAND]

I have screen shots, if anyone needs them.

Please forward those screen shots to me please as I am compiling all I can on these two. My e-mail address is [email protected]. Please put "Unwise" as the title so I do not throw it in the garbage or so I can locate it if it happens to get caught in my spam filter.

Thanks in advance,

DAND (Dave)

 

[SirenSanJose]

My guess is she will definitely be banned. It is only a matter of time before this is all hidden from public view though.
We have a "drama blog" where everything that is removed from DS is talked about... we have posted her info there and links to this forum, too.
Many DSers lurk the drama blog, so the word will get out from there.
Starting at post #436, we're talking about Christine/cwise87:
http://thedramaofdiaperswappers.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/if-you-have-to-ask/#comments

You are free to join the discussion there!

Too bad it looks like the mods just sort of swept it under the rug by deleting the threads. I posted a short summary of what's been going on over here, though. She's not going to get away with this any longer.

 

[DAND]

I've found it difficult to read page after page, but I wanted to ask...

Does anyone have a brief write up of the situation that would like to submit? More on the side of maintaining our professionalism rather then what we'd all really like to say about them. A sort of short article outlining information about why the donations when taken and what happened to them. I would like to get it up on my blog and I'm sure others would be able to utilize it on their sites or even in flyers at shows.

I'd do one myself, but I'm sure someone closer to the situation would be able to write it up better...

I'll be working on it today and will post it as soon as I finish.

 

[StrictlyExotics]

Hi- I am not a retile/exotic breeder, but Christine Wise ended up going to a website I am a member of called "Diaperswappers.com".
She stole images from an old blog where a family was pregnant with triplets, posted it in our "Trying to Conceive" forum and made up a story about how she just found out she was pregnant with triplets so they needed free stuff to help them out. She posted an Ultrasound picture but removed the date off the top (fishy again!).
A few of us thought her posting was fishy, because of her recently joining and then making a post saying she wanted twins.. then a week later saying she was preggers with 3.. "surprise"!! And of course, right after that, asking for handouts.
After a google search, we found the REAL ultrasound pictures stamped 2001, and sadly, the REAL family lost the triplet children at 27 weeks, I believe.
We started searching more and found this forum with more info on her.
Here is a link to the first posting in Trying to Conceive:
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=988096
2nd post where she announces she is pregnant with triplets:
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=995092
3rd post where she is asking for free things because "money is tight":
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=980873

Our moderators on Diaperswappers do not allow posts like this to stay up long, so it could be removed soon. I have screen shots, if anyone needs them.

I am mainly posting this here to show that "Cwise87", Christine Wise is scamming a lot of people, not just limited to one community. I hope y'all find her and the authorities do something ASAP. Good luck!

I am willing to bet that they became members of this site RIGHT after Crissabella announced that she is having twins. Any takers? Talk about being twisted.

 

[crissabella]

I am willing to bet that they became members of this site RIGHT after Crissabella announced that she is having twins. Any takers? Talk about being twisted.

Dean, you're right, check out the join date
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[dragonlvr64]

Rose thank you so much for bringing this new information forward.
Just makes it even more important for this link to be posted anywhere and everywhere! You just never know what scheme has been thought of and where they will spread their poison next.

I think Steph has a good idea for a story compiling all info be posted, so we can all copy and post on our sites and FB and MySpace,ect..... This will be crucial to preventing

 

[WebSlave]

Anyone contacted the major news wire services (Associated Press, for instance)? I think this would make a very interesting feature story for them to run with.

And I do believe now there is sufficient evidence of illegal INTENT for the authorities to get involved to shut the Wise's down before other people get taken.

 

[Vintagechic]

Done!

 

[dragonlvr64]

Anyone contacted the major news wire services (Associated Press, for instance)? I think this would make a very interesting feature story for them to run with.

And I do believe now there is sufficient evidence of illegal INTENT for the authorities to get involved to shut the Wise's down before other people get taken.

I am kind of clueless how to format such information to send to them. Is it better to wait for Dave to write up his summary story and submit that with a link?

 

[Vintagechic]

Woops, meant to reply to the person asking me for screen shots. I sent them to his email

 

[dragonlvr64]

When you google Christina's name, she is listed 5th down for this site!

How will you two support yourselves and your family now??? .
This will be everywhere before you know it!