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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

Info found. Is this the Dad of Jeffery? Dates and ages are off for it to be the one we want yet Christina and Jeffery names are listed. Could a father and son both have married a Christina??? Crazy :shrug01:
Jeffery Wise

Male | 50s
13318 Dixie Hwy Lot, Unit 123
Holly, Michigan 48442
([RP(-1,1413664937,'Candance Wise','','Holly, MI','13318 Dixie Hwy Lot, Unit 123',42.800504,-83.619826),RP(-1,1413664997,'Deborah Wise','','Holly, MI','13318 Dixie Hwy Lot, Unit 123',42.800504,-83.619826),RP(-1,1413665257,'Erica Wise','','Holly, MI','13318 Dixie Hwy Lot, Unit 123',42.800504,-83.619826),RP(-1,1413665547,'Mark Wise','','Holly, MI','13318 Dixie Hwy Lot, Unit 123',42.800504,-83.619826)])
Household: Candance Wise, Deborah Wise, Erica Wise, Mark Wise

Basic Profile†
Age: 51, born July 1958
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Zodiac: Cancer
Relationship: Single
Children: 1
Occupation: unknown
Education: High School
Political Party: unknown
Registered Voter: Yes
Religion: unknown
Language: unknown
Hobbies: Reading
Home Owner: unknown
Residence: Mobile Home Park
Length of Residence: 1 years
Est. Home Value: unknown
Neighborhood: Middle Class
Wealth†
Lifestyle & Interests†
Loves reading
Subscribes to magazines
Has children
Donates to causes
Browses mail catalogs
Household†
Candance Wise
50s | Female - Head of household
Deborah Wise
50s | Female - Head of household
Erica Wise
50s | Female - Head of household
Mark Wise
30s | Male - Head of household
Jeffery Wise
50s | Male - Head of household
Number of People: 5 - 6
Number of Adults: 4 - 5
Children: 1: 0 - 3 year old
Home Description: Mobile Home Park
Fireplace: No
Central Heating: No
Central Air: No
Swimming Pool: unknown
Est. Home Value: unknown
Length of Residence: 1 years
Neighborhood†
Location: Michigan > Holly
Zipcode: 48442
Median Income: $69k
Median Home Value: $129k
Median Income %:
Top 16% (in the US)
Top 20% (in Michigan)
Top 70% (in the county)
Median Home Value %:
Top 66% (in the US)
Top 46% (in Michigan)
Top 73% (in the county)

Think we have this info, but can't hurt to post again. Found on SPOKEO.com
[email protected]
Twitter name cwise87

5231 Kimberly Dr. Grand Blanc, MI 48439

2174 Mill Rd lot 114 Flint MI 48532
 
Got messages sent to about 20 of her friends before facebook said "No More"... I'll most likely go back on later and send a few more...

Here is what I was sending in case anyone wants to know.
Hey,
According to your profile you are friends with Christina Wise (Christina Horn).

PLEASE read this and spread the word if possible... the Wises have stolen a great deal of money (Thousands of dollars) from a number of people, including a recent widow and her children, and then forged information to try to cover up her actions.

Unfortunately, Facebook isn't allowing me to send links... (apparently there is a limited number you can send over a given time frame)... however, I BELIEVE that if you do a google search for "Jeff and Christina Wise" the first link that comes up will show what I'm trying to send to everyone.

I understand not wanting to click on random links (I personally don't), but this IS extremely important.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

Thanks,
- Jay

Most included a link, but after facebook said no more links, I changed it to what it is above.
 
Idea: Craigslist has a 'local news' forum in their 'community' section. I bet the local newspapers look it over to see if there is anything interesting. Just another avenue to get the news out.
 
Cindy... I found that as well when I was looking for Jeff's addy... I didnt give it much thought when I found a few places where it showed Jeff as a Sr and he showed his ages as 34.

:shrug01:
 
Idea: Craigslist has a 'local news' forum in their 'community' section. I bet the local newspapers look it over to see if there is anything interesting. Just another avenue to get the news out.

I like it... I'll take a look now... if there isn't something already posted, I'll make sure to do so.
 
Look at what she had the balls to do: my paypal is now frozen:

Hello Charles Kimmel,

Your sender asked his or her bank to reverse the payment for the following
transaction:


Sender’s name: Christina Horn
Sender’s email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5WJ38939NU842383U

Transaction date: Apr 9, 2010
Transaction amount: $800.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 9D386605NX8357244
Case number: PP-000-971-749-747


We need additional information from you within the next 7 days. Please log
in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to see the
details of this case. There, you can enter any information regarding this
case that will help us fight the reversal on your behalf.

Thanks,

PayPal
 
Look at what she had the balls to do: my paypal is now frozen:

Hello Charles Kimmel,

Your sender asked his or her bank to reverse the payment for the following
transaction:


Sender’s name: Christina Horn
Sender’s email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5WJ38939NU842383U

Transaction date: Apr 9, 2010
Transaction amount: $800.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 9D386605NX8357244
Case number: PP-000-971-749-747


We need additional information from you within the next 7 days. Please log
in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to see the
details of this case. There, you can enter any information regarding this
case that will help us fight the reversal on your behalf.

Thanks,

PayPal

She's vile!
 
Cindy... I found that as well when I was looking for Jeff's addy... I didnt give it much thought when I found a few places where it showed Jeff as a Sr and he showed his ages as 34.

:shrug01:

Maybe their identity was stolen? I am sure not, but sure is odd! Yah never know with these two!
 
Look at what she had the balls to do: my paypal is now frozen:

Hello Charles Kimmel,

Your sender asked his or her bank to reverse the payment for the following
transaction:


Sender’s name: Christina Horn
Sender’s email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5WJ38939NU842383U

Transaction date: Apr 9, 2010
Transaction amount: $800.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 9D386605NX8357244
Case number: PP-000-971-749-747


We need additional information from you within the next 7 days. Please log
in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to see the
details of this case. There, you can enter any information regarding this
case that will help us fight the reversal on your behalf.

Thanks,

PayPal


Oh my gosh! Holy Crap! Those :censored: holes! Oh Maggie, I am so so sorry all this is happening! These people are beyond horrendous! :angry:
 
Look at what she had the balls to do: my paypal is now frozen:

Hello Charles Kimmel,

Your sender asked his or her bank to reverse the payment for the following
transaction:


Sender’s name: Christina Horn
Sender’s email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5WJ38939NU842383U

Transaction date: Apr 9, 2010
Transaction amount: $800.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 9D386605NX8357244
Case number: PP-000-971-749-747


We need additional information from you within the next 7 days. Please log
in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to see the
details of this case. There, you can enter any information regarding this
case that will help us fight the reversal on your behalf.

Thanks,

PayPal

Wow, truly amazing.
 
OMG I am so sryy Maggie for what they've put you through, this is horrible and i do hope that they get caught soon.

I posted a link to this thread on a fish forum im part of www.aquariacentral.com , i don't think the thread will get deleted so there are a few more ppl that will hopefully check it out
 
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