Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

[Southern Wolf]

'You must spread some karma around before giving it to Dennis Hultman again'

Dennis, you are amazing. A steadfast friend and a scary enemy. The world needs more people like you.

I gotcha covered... he deserved it for what he just brought to light.

 

[ReptileJay]

An apology to Maggie from one of the Wise's Cousins

As I mentioned before, I had been emailing people on Christina Wise's facebook friend list, alerting them of the Wises' activities as of late.

Apparently one of the people that got my message was one of their cousins, who apparently had no idea any of this had happened, and seemed shocked.

He asked me to apologize to Maggie from the family for what Christina and Jeff have done.

I know it isn't much, but perhaps it's a good sign that EVERYONE in that family isn't going to get sucked into their lies.

I did respond back to him asking if there was any chance he'd be willing to share the info with other members of the family, in the hopes that perhaps they can get through to them, and convince them to do the right thing.

 

[Miss Tuniwha]

Ok.. I do have a question.. Not sure how it can/does affect anything, but figured maybe someone else could use it to help us..

When Christina was all buddy buddy with me (and a handful of others on here) She told me that her job was to write reviews and stuff for the internet, and also had to make calls I believe. To me it sounded much like telemarketing... I know she did ask me to write articles and such, which I turned down, but that she got paid by the article or something..

Anywho.. Does any one know what it was that she did? Was it all internet based? Just wanted to ask.. thanks.

 

[StrictlyExotics]

Ok.. I do have a question.. Not sure how it can/does affect anything, but figured maybe someone else could use it to help us..

When Christina was all buddy buddy with me (and a handful of others on here) She told me that her job was to write reviews and stuff for the internet, and also had to make calls I believe. To me it sounded much like telemarketing... I know she did ask me to write articles and such, which I turned down, but that she got paid by the article or something..

Anywho.. Does any one know what it was that she did? Was it all internet based? Just wanted to ask.. thanks.

I think the company was Telicheck forum. I saw this through a screen shot that she had sent me. Also look up WAHM (work at home mothers) and you might be able to figure out what it is.

 

[zzzdanz]

It's just some BS pyramid type thing.She wont be retiring anytime soom from it.

 

[SamanthaJane13]

Ok.. I do have a question.. Not sure how it can/does affect anything, but figured maybe someone else could use it to help us..

When Christina was all buddy buddy with me (and a handful of others on here) She told me that her job was to write reviews and stuff for the internet, and also had to make calls I believe. To me it sounded much like telemarketing... I know she did ask me to write articles and such, which I turned down, but that she got paid by the article or something..

Anywho.. Does any one know what it was that she did? Was it all internet based? Just wanted to ask.. thanks.

IDK-but she had emailed me once-well..not once. It became a conversation.

RE: I am in need of some help

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I already copy and pasted crested but once u get over there I want you to paste it and I
will remove mine I want u to get full credit

-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Moorhouse [mailto:\[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:18 PM
To: Christina
Subject: RE: I am in need of some help

WOW!!!

I already saved the text for my care sheet and sexing cresties...but now I have to save
all the stuff from the Chapel!!!

Thanks for the heads' up!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:52:18 -0400
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: I am in need of some help
>
> It will be gone and all data gone.. We are starting new with this site.
> It will be on its own domain before or shortly after.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donna Moorhouse [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:49 PM
> To: Christina
> Subject: RE: I am in need of some help
>
> So....the site we have now...will begone and replace?? Or are you just
> upgrading??
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> Sent: Thu, 6 May 2010 17:06:17 -0400
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: I am in need of some help
>>
>> Okay I will put it for the new site...okay I will keep in mind when I
>> need stuff edited!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Donna Moorhouse [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:54 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: I am in need of some help
>>
>> Christine-
>>
>> Right now, I'm in the process of cleaning the room I'm that I'm
>> converting to my gecko room, also, the only herp I feel comfortable
>> writing on is cresties, and I did a care sheet, but nick hasn't
>> "sticky-ed" it yet. It's in the crestie board, though.
>>
>> I have absolutely NO artistic talent that doesn't involve Contact paper,
>> wall paper or spray paint.
>>
>> I could proof-read or edit newspaper articles, though.
>>
>> Sorry I can't be of more assistance!
>>
>> Hugs-
>> Donna
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Thu, 06 May 2010 14:35:26 -0500
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: I am in need of some help
>>>
>>> I am gonna need members who would be willing to write up care sheets
>>> for
>>> animals. I do not want it to be copied word for word from other
>>> sites...
>>> I would like something in your own words..... please contact me if you
>>> are willing to help out with this... this is for the new site
>>>
>>> Also those who wanted to help with the newsletter please contact me I
>>> would like to get this started as a work in progress....
>>>
>>>
>>> Also anyone who is good at graphics or web art please contact me I have
>>> some ideas for things just not time to get them done at the moment. I
>>> am
>>> loaded with all kinds of things!
>>

Yeah-she's LOADED alright...with BS!!!

 

[Shadera]

Thank goodness I didn't go through with my newsletter idea. I'd hate to forever have my name connected with theirs in people's minds.

 

[Miss Tuniwha]

Thank goodness I didn't go through with my newsletter idea. I'd hate to forever have my name connected with theirs in people's minds.

yeah.. it was a good idea though hun!

 

[StrictlyExotics]

Thank goodness I didn't go through with my newsletter idea. I'd hate to forever have my name connected with theirs in people's minds.

Shadera,

I dont think any one would have looked at you any different. In the begining, they had everyone fooled and most of us fell for it hook, line, and sinker. I am just glad, as a community, we could stick it out and see this to fuition.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

More chest thumping. Is anyone else not a bit scared of these people?

I fear only God, and Myself if I'm mad enough.

 

[DAND]

Ok.. I do have a question.. Not sure how it can/does affect anything, but figured maybe someone else could use it to help us..

When Christina was all buddy buddy with me (and a handful of others on here) She told me that her job was to write reviews and stuff for the internet, and also had to make calls I believe. To me it sounded much like telemarketing... I know she did ask me to write articles and such, which I turned down, but that she got paid by the article or something..

Anywho.. Does any one know what it was that she did? Was it all internet based? Just wanted to ask.. thanks.

You mean anything like this information? (guess she should have thought twice before sending me out any information )



Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:06:10 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: Calling All Shoppers!
To: [email protected]


--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Becki Kroll <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Becki Kroll <[email protected]>
Subject: Calling All Shoppers!
To: "'Melissa Marlatt'" <[email protected]>, "'David Swan'" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 7:13 AM

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Happy Wednesday! We wanted to touch base with everyone and let everyone know that we have some great assignments coming up in April. It looks to be like it will be a very busy month.

That being said, we are asking you all to reach out to anyone that you may know that may have interest or be in need of a job. We will have some openings for more shoppers and would appreciate your help and recommendations on bringing some more people on board.

If you know of anyone that may be interested, please have them forward their resume and e-mail of interest to David Swan at [email protected].

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at any time.

Thank you so much for all your hard work and continued efforts.

Have a great day.

Becki Kroll
Program Manager
877-827-7273, x424
[email protected]

 

[Strike_Force_Reptiles]

lol maybe we need to contact the bose and direct them to this

 

[Miss Tuniwha]

As someone just mentioned to me via PM.. If we contact the "employer", they may have some words to say as well..

as, even though it is home from work, many employers would not stand for their employees pulling things such as this (since it is within their field of employment to be doing the pages and such)

 

[Southern Wolf]

If they are getting paid to write articles... then maybe one of them can write an article on one of thier own employees... and get that published.

 

[82shovel]

Could it be that Jeff and Christina are soliciting David to help "protect" them and to try to get him to be a "safe house" for holding the snakes, rats, etc. so that they will not risk getting evicted or having the animals in their apartment if the authorities come knocking to take custody of disputed property?




Personally, I am still anxiously awaiting the knock on the door from homeland security...

Could it be, they owe this man allot of money and he is just trying to protect his investment till he gets paid. Knowing they wont be able to pay both, he wants his first....

 

[Shadera]

Thank you Larry and BT, for bringing this to light on RR. I hope that many more people were enlightened about this couple through your broadcast. Your help is much appreciated.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com//2010/05/30/atbs-and-gtps-with-rico-walder-1

(within the first ten minutes of their show last night.. )

 

[Shadera]

Can we, for once, put aside the petty bickering between forums to allow a link through to that show? They allow links from this place on THEIR board. We need to stop separating ourselves into groups and fight together if we want to get anywhere with anything. This, legislation, it never ends.

Here's a screenshot of the web address for that online radio station, since Fauna is not allowing the name to be typed. What you want is the most recent show.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Could it be, they owe this man allot of money and he is just trying to protect his investment till he gets paid. Knowing they wont be able to pay both, he wants his first....

This "David Hart" guy lives at the same address that Jeff has his lawn care business listed at. I doubt it's an investor, but more likely a family member that is buying into their BS. A dad or Step dad maybe?

Does no good to let someone dig their own grave, if you're just gonna stand by with a shotgun to make sure nobody comes and fills in the hole.


Anyway, just an update. Already talked with Dave Gruning about the progress yesterday. Ran out of ink Friday night printing things up for the law. Finished printing Saturday early. Had already called the police station previously, and they said bring it in any time to file. I guess by "anytime" they meant M-F during certain hours, and also to their regional Command center.

So, once the weekend is over, that one will be filed as well, and I'll get Dave the case numbers for that and the IC3 report. Anyone else that's filed with IC3 or local police should do the same. Get all these case numbers in a single location to help expedite this. Give David (DAND) the case numbers and city, state filed in. And send them to his email address so he's sure to get it. That email again is... [email protected]

 

[kmrkvicka]

wow - finally finished reading to the end!!! LOL.

I am so proud of this community. I really, truly am. Maggie has told me that she and her daughters are not in "need" of any more movies, but I am sending more as soon as I get home and can (so, Tuesday). Also, I just had a litter of boas (well, 2 technically drop), so as soon as one sells, I'm sending a wii to the house, so if anyone has extra wii games, controllers, etc, send them on out!! I couldn't believe the didn't have one!!!

So, onto business stuff. I too, have filed a complaint with paypal, and it is in the resolution phase while the investigate. If they do not okay it, I will take it up with my bank (I paid by debit card). I also forwarded emails of solicitations by Christina on to the correct people, where she attempted to purchase animals from me.

Whatever needs to be done, let's do it. Also, Maggie, if you find yourself short on money, don't hesitate to let us know, and we can also send the donations western union, rather than paypal during this unnecessarily rough time

I love you all like family, and have long since decided that Fauna is home

 

[DAND]

This "David Hart" guy lives at the same address that Jeff has his lawn care business listed at. I doubt it's an investor, but more likely a family member that is buying into their BS. A dad or Step dad maybe?

As I understand it David Hart is the one who owns the equipment and the business. Jeff is just an employee/subcontractor. The two of them just can't seem to tell the truth about anything.

So, once the weekend is over, that one will be filed as well, and I'll get Dave the case numbers for that and the IC3 report. Anyone else that's filed with IC3 or local police should do the same. Get all these case numbers in a single location to help expedite this. Give David (DAND) the case numbers and city, state filed in. And send them to his email address so he's sure to get it. That email again is... [email protected]

Yeppers, send me any and all information you have. Every one will be another nail in their coffins.