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Bad Guy Jeff Otterberg, aka Pudgsr, www.pudsleopardgeckos.com: GECKO KILLER & BULLY

i already posted stuff and nobody believed thats why this site sucks and is a piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
WebSlave said:
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well I hope that was only temporary.

Because here is my point of view.
He says this site is bad. He wanted to be banned so he does not have to come to such a bad site as this.

Well if this site was truly bad, why did he feel that he needed to be banned just to stay off of it? Did he not have enough self control to stay off of such a "bad" site?

I find it hilarious that he keeps talking bad about the site but does not have enough mental power to resist something he does not like. :shrug01:
 
HerpVenue said:
well I hope that was only temporary.

Because here is my point of view.
He says this site is bad. He wanted to be banned so he does not have to come to such a bad site as this.

Well if this site was truly bad, why did he feel that he needed to be banned just to stay off of it? Did he not have enough self control to stay off of such a "bad" site?

I find it hilarious that he keeps talking bad about the site but does not have enough mental power to resist something he does not like. :shrug01:
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Well, I'm just here to make people happy. He asked for permanent, so I made it permanent. Wouldn't want him going around saying I didn't help him when he obviously needed it.
 
Jeff~if you can still read this, you didn't post proof. You showed a vet note that didn't show what geckos you took in. Peter provided a lot of pictures of healthy geckos that were packaged well. He's shown something which is why more people believe him. I'm still blown away by your attitude. Remember, don't ever contact me for geckos and try to act like a mature adult when you have problems. That's how they get solved.
 
Kristi23 said:
don't ever contact me for geckos
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I don't think that Jeff realizes that word gets around the entire community from this site, and that he may find that many people will choose not to sell to him after they have read this thread.
 
Lucille said:
I don't think that Jeff realizes that word gets around the entire community from this site, and that he may find that many people will choose not to sell to him after they have read this thread.
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I agree. His attitude with this situation will really hurt him in the near future.
 
He would prefer to be banned from the site so he can go running around his friends crying about he was "banned for NO reason!!!".

Classic behavior. Instead of posting pictures of the animals so people could match up the animals with the pics Jolle posted, he ranted how no one was on his side, he didn't need the site, and runs off after forcing his own banning so he has an excuse as to why he can't now post proof.

He's had a long time to snap a few pics of the afflicted animals and chose not to. There's probably a reason why he didn't use a simple method of proving his side of the story.
 
I have never heard of him til reading about this situation and he is already on the DNBFOSTL for me. He just set a record for the quickest person to make the list too.

This situation should of been handled in a more mature way by the buyer. Acting childish and immature is never going to help you in a situation like this.
 
justindh1 said:
I have never heard of him til reading about this situation and he is already on the DNBFOSTL for me. He just set a record for the quickest person to make the list too.

This situation should of been handled in a more mature way by the buyer. Acting childish and immature is never going to help you in a situation like this.
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I don't think I've ever heard of him either. I thought that was a little weird. He's probably the quickest to make my list, too.
 
Okay im here to clear up the situation. I did blow up cause the way I got them I hadn't seen before. As of right now of all the ones that were shipped by him 15 died within a 2 weeks of having them. None of my other geckos have had a problem. I sent an apology to "Webslave" Rich. I know I acted wrong and u guys can think whatever you want of me. I have had a lot of fun meeting great people and doing business with the leopard gecko community. I know this doesn't total help me out probably in the long run but Im trying to make it right. pudsleopardgeckos.com
 
I don't know if this helps,but I've just recently done business with Jeff and was very happy with the four geckos he sent me. Granted,one was supposed to be female (Though a male actually works out better now for my breeding plans,so I have no complaints. =3 ) and two were picky eaters at first but he was quick to inform me of all this and they are all doing great. :)

I also don't see anything wrong with the OP's packing job,but that's just my opinion.
 
If you didnt have proof in the beginning then you shouldnt have posted a thread, because you had no argument. Just because you came on here apologizing doesnt make it right that you acted like a immature child. You flipped out calling this a shitty website, in my opinion you shouldnt have been able to come back.
 
I had proof I posted up pics at the time with the camera people on here told me that was bad and they couldn't see the problems. I agreed it was hard to tell with the pics. My camera wasn't the best. I took the pics down a long time ago so thats why you don't see them.
 
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