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JeffB apparently doesn't like me having KINGSNAKES.COM...

Ok so Coca Cola buys Pepsicolas.com and has it redirected back to Cocacola.com. Ummm thats not cool and IS not legal!
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Actually, it is Legal. You can purchase any domain name you want and put anything on that website you want. It has been done time and time again and there isn't anything anyone else can do about it. That is why you register it and PAY FOR IT. It is space, and if Jeff didn't have the foresite to buy Kingsnakes.com or .net or .gov or .dumb@$$ he is SOL. His "Attorney" knows this, that is why it is in "arbitration" not a real court.
As a matter of fact, alot of people make a great deal of money registering domain names in the hopes that people will buy them. Names like PanAm, Herseys, and so on.
If Rich changed his site name to Kingsnakes.com, then it might be copyright infringement, but not the domain name. If Jeff let his domain name of Kingsnake.com expire, anyone of us could buy it and there wouldn't be a damn thing he could do about it....other than buy it at what ever the asking price was :flamethr:
 
There are:

cornsnake.com
cornsnakes.com

Rich, you ever think about sueing Don?

ratsnake.com
ratsnakes.com

Motleyboa.com
motleyboas.com

car.com
cars.com

loan.com
loans.com

auto.com
autos.com

vacation.com
vacations.com

ALL DOING THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS!!!


Jeff, really should have picked a stronger trademark then a snake name!

You're acting like a small child. Like always, not getting your way so acting up about it.


Come to think of it Rich. You have no reason at all not to have that link direct to fauna. It's a snake name not a business name!

If you have a name like a snake name and use it for a snake business it's a VERY WEAK copyright and you'd be hard pressed to win anything even if somebody used the EXACT SAME NAME!

If Jeff had a line of sunglasses called kingsnake and Rich had a site kingsnakes.com selling sunglasses Jeff would win.

As things sit, he just looks like an even bigger idiot!
 
Do any of you have any of the links to any of the lawsuits filled against Jeff?

I know when I was going through my thing with him I had a few people send me links to info on Jeff just wanted to know if that was still out there.
 
Well, as someone said to me in an email, this is GREAT publicity for the domain name at the ending few days of the auction.

The referral is gone, so I knocked those feet out from under someone.

I seriously doubt that THAT many people make a mistake in typing. People are NOW going to that domain name to see what is actually there. And probably will be for a long time to come.

I put a hit counter on the domain this afternnoon, and it has gotten 59 hits so far just from this publicity alone. Thanks for the publicity boost, Jeff!

I have been promising my wife a Chevy Silverado pickup truck for years now. Anything I get on that auction will be going towards my fulfilling that promise to her. So I am just trying to use a joke and an unusual turn of events, to make one good deed pay for another.

Is that such a bad thing?

And Jeff, all you have to do is to win the auction yourself and this all will be a moot point anyway. The auction ends at Wed Nov 26, 09:15 PM.

KingSnakes.com Auction

BTW, my wife says that in lieu of a large screen monitor, if you will send her that truck she wants, she will post in your defense anytime you want her to! You know my phone number. Ask for Connie.

When she gets the truck, I will GIVE you that domain name. :laugh:
 
adam

I'll address the "snakes sites"

You said "ALL DOING THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS!!!"

cornsnake.com
cornsnakes.com

ratsnake.com
ratsnakes.com

motleyboa.com
motleyboas.com

After looking at the above sites you listed as examples I have to ask...Did you do any research before you posted. Im guessing you didnt unless my browser is screwed up becasue NONE are doing the same type of business. If they are in fact then my browser is malfunctioning.

With regards to the link...Not sure how that makes KS/Jeff looks bad, but ok if you say it does it must.

If you REALLY think the redirect was legal and Jeff would have lost why do you think the webslave took the redirect off so quickly?

Because it was not legal (sorry Wendy I do not think you are correct on the legality issue).

The current site with the Arbitration notice was a good idea.
People that like KS wont care to much and people who hate the site will love it. Either way its legal and belongs to the webslave.

Im guessing had Jeff simply asked politely it would have been changed and all this avoided. Maybe not, who knows.
 
Ken

I have to disagree on the relevance issue.

Here is one excerpt from your Link:

"Complainant does not allege, and has not proven, that this is a registered or common law trademark"

From the arbitration notice:

Kingsnake did secure a common law trademark and they were registered/accepted with the us copyright office

This is one of many differences.


Not the best example maybe?
 
Might not be so similar

Perhaps if his business was named "Kingsnake" (though probably not), and not "OnlineHobbyist.com", some correlation may be drawn.

Still, the name is a reference to a common word, and not a strong trademark. Since Fauna deals with Kingsnakes as much (as a percentage of total focus), if not more than Kingsnake.com, there's no standing to the notion that either party has any more right to the name than the other does. Possession is 9/10 of the law, though, lest any of you forget.

Brian Engleman
 
Larry says:
I guess she didnt know how to book mark a site either?
Or maybe she has finger isses as described by the webslave.
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How nice. :)

I rarely use the mouse as I suffer from arthritis. Anything I can do with the keyboard is better than with a mouse. My home page is the BOI. When I go elsewhere I just type in the url. As I type about three times faster than using the mouse, I just type the links. Most the time I get it right. Occassionally I get it wrong. Even when I get it wrong, in the time it takes me to see my mistake and fix it I still get to the intended site faster than using the mouse.

Larry also says:
Would this apply to Sasheena who did infact do this?
So in your own words your saying that she is a "Knucklehead"
Is this correct? Please advise me on this (and maybe her too).
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It doesn't take a knucklehead to type a wrong URL. It takes a KNUCKLEHEAD to mistake the poor yahoo-imitation Kingsnake.com for the delightfully GREEN faunaclassifieds.com. They don't look the same, silly.

I might accidentally type a bad link, but i know when I have the wrong link. I once had a christmas website I created (still exists too http://www.geocities.com/santakitten/), and at that time Geocities relied on unpaid volunteers to police their site and keep out the porn-scum. (I was one of those volunteers). To my dismay one day I was showing my website to some of my students, I typed sanakitten instead of santakitten, and the next thing I know my students are seeing XXX material. Now, did we BROWSE the site? Was I so completely bamboozled by the seemingly CORRECT URL that I browsed porn? Nope, not on your life. (Luckily I was a college student at the time, and my students were also college students.) The point is, if you couldn't tell the difference then someone might get confused, but the sites are totally different.


:dunce:
 
ok a laymans question

Someone stated that rich couldnt have the name kingsnakes.com redirecting to this site right?

so i just typed in "www.onlinehobbyist.com"

well so since Rich own the kingsnakes name could he not do as onlinehobbyiest did and list ALL of his sites on that page ?
serpenco.com
cornsnakes.com
faunaclassifieds.com
BOI.com
etc ?
im not adding the link but if anyone wants to look they know how to i think thats what you should do Rich ,, use Kingsnakes.com to list ALL of your sites that Jeff B Banned from his site and anyother sites he has banned aswell .Then i dont think you would be in vilation of anything , and would be doing the same thing they did
 
I don't believe the issue is the link.
I do believe that approximately 2 years ago, it was determined that not just anyone could register a Trade Marked name as a domain name. However that does not include variations of that name. For example, only Nordstroms could register the domain "Nordstroms", but any one could register the domain "Nerdstroms".
Common place names/words like car, boat, cat, tower etc, cannot be trademarked because they are common place. So Kingsnake is not eligible for trademark because it is a commplace name.
Even if it were trademarkable, it still would not apply to "KingsnakeS". And since Rich owns Kingsnakes.com he can put up anything on the site he wants to including (but not limited to) porno, political views, actual kingsnakes and yes an automatic link to any of the other sites he owns.
That whole competing site thing is ridiculous anyway. Kingsnake and Fauna attract two different types of people altogether. People on this site are way more business/industry oriented. Kingsnake is more the idealistic small/new hobbiest. I believe they are different enough that they are not competative.
 
I have taken the liberty of going to kingsnake.com and screen capturing SEVERAL instances on JeffB's own site where the generic term "kingsnakes" is used to refer to a genus of colubrids. Including one of his forum titles as well as a substantial number of instances of ads posted in his own colubrid classifieds.

I would paste them there, but I have this nagging feeling I would then get slapped with some sort of copyright infringement notice.

Speaking of which, how does this copyright infringement thingie work? If someone were to do screen captures from my site, even though at the bottom of every page it is PLAINLY posted All original material copyrighted © by Rich Zuchowski/FaunaClassifieds, and forwarded that onto a third party without MY permission, is that an infringement of MY copyright?

Just curious....
 
Common place names/words like car, boat, cat, tower etc, cannot be trademarked because they are common place. So Kingsnake is not eligible for trademark because it is a commplace name.
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Correct, as I said provided you use "boat" as a name for a boat business. However if you have a line of headphones and the name of your company is "baot" it becomes a strong copyright.

Larry to address your issue I was saying:


car.com
cars.com

loan.com
loans.com

auto.com
autos.com

vacation.com
vacations.com

were ALL DOING THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS!!!

The snake sites were just there because they're out there, some have done the same type of business at one time.

Anyway, this is a dead issue. Rich can do as he likes with kingsnakes.com just as I can with kingsnakesucks.com and Jeff can with kingsnake.
 
Hmmmm, It is saying that you acted in "bad faith" with the intention of and have done harm to Jeffs business by "confusing" his customers.

They actually name a person who is registered both here on fauna and there on ks. Are they saying that this guy bought stuff here instead of there because of this link? maybe he advertised here instead of there? Or he bought something here, thinking he was there? Oh, maybe he spent more time reading here than there.....
I think his (as if he owns them) customers would have to be confused to begin with to not know the difference between this site and that one.

So, If I make a typo in a website address and endup on one of those really disgusting fetish sites, or some morbid dead body site, I can sue? The site I intended to go to can sue?

I think if I were you Rich, I would have my attorney handle it.
 
Wendy

Wendy, just to clarify:

Hypothetical-

Nordstroms owns Nordstrom.com
Macys buys Nordstroms.com and it redirects to Macys site

Now you believe this is legal?
Do you believe this is ethical?

Answer: NO

I also disagree on the competition issue...
Kingsnakes.com was redirected to a competing site that sells advertising has classifieds and forums (profitable or not).

Why do you think it was switched so quickly.
The goal Jeff/KS has been achieved by filing for arbitration because the redirect issue was resolved immediately.

He now has the option to what he wishes with the site.
There is no longer an issue pending as there is no resaon for KS to pursue arbitraton. Although a response from the webslave is recommended so that a default judgement is not issued.

As stated before, posting the notice on the site was a good idea.
 
This all sounds like it could turn into a nasty, festering pimple. Not even worth the trouble!
 
I think if I were you Rich, I would have my attorney handle it.
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Nah.... The people at ICANN are probably going to laugh their butts off over it. I'm sure they get this sort of thing all of the time.
But yeah, maybe I do need to look at the possibility of civil damages if this complaint appears to have been filed solely to damage my auction's outcome. The timing of this is rather unusual, I think, since I have had this domain name since early June, 2003. Why NOW?

Hmmmm, It is saying that you acted in "bad faith" with the intention of and have done harm to Jeffs business by "confusing" his customers.
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No, not even close. I got the name because John O had some problems. They are all documented elsewhere, so I see no need to dredge that up again. It was a fair amount of money, but I really was not hurting for money, but I really didn't want to tell him to just forget it either. It was actually a shock to me when I realized that he had ownership of kingsnakes.com! I think it came to me when I was looking over the stats on my FaunaTopSites listing and I noticed his URL. This was a no brainer. It would let John off the hook, I could gracefully forgive the debt, and in the same fell swoop have that domain name in my stable.

Yes, I knew it would aggravate JeffB when he learned about it, but it was the OWNERSHIP part that I thought was hilarious, not anything I would actually do with it. Let's face it, my hands are full enough with the stuff I already have active and other plans in the works. So all I did was put it on my list of parked domains that have a referral to FaunaClassifieds.com. So kingsnakes.com was only one of 34 or so OTHER domain names that were set up as referrals, and it was nothing at all special about it. So there was absolutely NO intent of any harm, since I just didn't give it any other thought and that seemed a reasonable thing to do with the name while it was on the back burner.

Since ICANN is an arbitration group for issues like this, I thought that arbitration took place AFTER all else failed to reach a resolution. Never once was I approached by anyone in reference to what I was doing with that domain name. I'll have to read over the ICANN website again, but I suspect that JeffB might not even have legal standing for this issue to even reach arbitration. But in every instance I have had to contact ICANN, ice ages could come and go before they would get back to you. So I'm not expecting anything to happen anytime soon. Especially not before that domain name might not even be mine any longer and the entire issue of being accused of my "intent" with that site is completely moot. The domain name probably will no longer belong to me by then anyway. The intent of the new owner would be to do with that site as they pleased.

Of course, JeffB could contact the owner of ReptiBid, if they are on friendly terms, and ask him to yank that auction.... :laugh:
 
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