Bad Guy Jen Harrison- Beware

[meowmeowkazoo]

Hello Paul & thank you so much for your more than generous offer.
Jen has PM'd me a photo of a Western Union Money Order, made out to me, for a full refund.
As soon as I recieve it I will post here that the matter has been resolved.
Also, thanks to Julie who offered to drive 1/2 way, pick up the snake & ship her.
I'm sure this will be put to rest very soon.
Beth Evans

Thank you for updating the thread. I'm glad that this will soon be resolved.

 

[zigzagcorn]

I am happy to say that I have received a full refund from Jen.

 

[LauraB]

Very glad to hear it. And happy Jen can continue to enjoy a good reputation. Well done.

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

This is pretty much what I posted on the rant section. Too many people playing the Vet card game like it is a get out of jail free card.

This has nothing to do with a "get out of jail free card". Beth mentioned being retired on a fixed income, and I replied that I understand as I am also on a fixed income -- my disability and housing allowance (I am in my last year of school). Thus I cannot produce more income out of nowhere unless I sell something. I felt she should know where my income comes from, that once it's gone, it's gone, and that I'm not continuously bringing in paychecks every 2 weeks like most people and lying to her. There was nothing "between the lines".

My cat truly did require surgery and I will gladly post the vet bill for those that feel it necessary. She woke up one day bleeding from her vulva, and as a Vet Tech, I am aware of the life-threatening nature of pyometra (uterine infection). An animal with pyometra generally has a 24-72 hour time frame before death is imminent. Not to mention the extreme rarity of pyometra in felines -- it is common in unspayed dogs but almost unheard of in cats. Luckily Lola's pyometra was open (draining), and my vet confirmed the diagnosis. She was scheduled for an emergency spay with abdominal exploration and full bloodwork. Her uterus was indeed fully infected with a large growth on one horn that had burst. I have pictures of her abdomen and incision site on my Facebook the same day it happened. This was not something that could wait until I had more money, without letting Lola die an excruciatingly painful death.

Helping my family was not a "nice" thing, implying that I did it just to be helpful. It was necessary, mandatory, unquestionable. My parents, youngest brother, and my daughter were on the verge of being HOMELESS...literally with one week left and nowhere to go. My mother is ill and does not work, and my dad busts his a** to earn what he can to keep them afloat. They care for my daughter while I am in a full-time veterinary program, getting zero help from her father, thus I not only needed to help them but keep my daughter safe. Do I regret having to use the shipping money? Absolutely. But I HAD NO CHOICE. That money bought them more time to find a new place to live in a tiny town an hour away from me, and at the last minute they finally did...a month-to-month house that could end up selling and leaving them searching again. But at least it's something.

Now I MYSELF have to suddenly move from my home of 2 years, causing even more strain, and my mother is back in the hospital today facing yet another surgery opening her up from head to toe -- thus putting more pressure on my family. I have been through hell the past 2 months, and sincerely, honestly regret that Beth had to suffer because of it. Luckily I sold a pair of albino ball pythons for $300 last Saturday, and immediately after meeting up with the person at Noon, I drove straight to HyVee and bought a money order for a full refund of Beth's payment, and sent it with Signature Confirmation that same day. Bottom line is that things happen in people's lives, and we do what we have to to get through them. I don't know one person that hasn't had a month or two where literally EVERYTHING went wrong and came crashing down on them. Hopefully this was my turn for the year. Nonetheless, it doesn't make someone a bad guy. I didn't intend for any of this to happen, I didn't scam Beth, I never ignored her or denied responsibility. As soon as I had the funds to do so, I did what needed to be done and refunded her money. I am relieved that it is finally resolved, and hope she is too.

 

[Lucille]

I'm glad your family and kitty are OK.
The thing is, future buyers would be justified in thinking that there might be problems and delays with any purchases they might make from you, in case there are future family issues.
Have you thought through any fixes so this doesn't happen again?

 

[gila7150]

I don't agree with the decision to use someone's shipping money to get out of a personal hardship but I also believe that one small bump in a person's long-standing positive track record does not define them as a bad guy. I hope things get easier for you and your family in the near future.

 

[Guy Castro]

So you rob Peter to help Paul?

 

[guruza]

I dont think it matters how long they have been a good seller, it matters that they handled one case wrong. If this happened with any person without a reputation the seller would have been crucified. I believe this bad guy thread is warranted as this seller did the same thing scammers do, the only difference is she eventually got the buyer a refund. I think the OP was an extremely patient person. After the 2 missed delivery dates i wouldv had a bad guy thread up immediately.

 

[meowmeowkazoo]

I dont think it matters how long they have been a good seller, it matters that they handled one case wrong. If this happened with any person without a reputation the seller would have been crucified. I believe this bad guy thread is warranted as this seller did the same thing scammers do, the only difference is she eventually got the buyer a refund. I think the OP was an extremely patient person. After the 2 missed delivery dates i wouldv had a bad guy thread up immediately.

I'd say that refunding the buyer is a pretty big difference from a scammer.

I'm really surprised that people are still going after her. She's had an unbelievably difficult time, but she still refunded the buyer. What more do people want from her?

 

[Lucille]

What more do people want from her?

In her last post she says she regrets using the shipping money but said she had no choice.
I think it would be helpful to those looking to do business with her in the future if she could outline a plan showing her efforts to not have this happen again. After all, she still has the kitty, and her family, and as we all know, life always has its ups and downs.

 

[Wilomn]

In her last post she says she regrets using the shipping money but said she had no choice.
I think it would be helpful to those looking to do business with her in the future if she could outline a plan showing her efforts to not have this happen again. After all, she still has the kitty, and her family, and as we all know, life always has its ups and downs.

I think you're living on the wrong side of the Atlantic. It's not a new thought for me, but this statement has reinforced it.

She made a huge mistake. She never ran away from it. She never denied it. She has no history of scamming.

She's not a bad guy, she made a bad decision, made the mistake of trying to explain her way out of it thereby opening herself to guys like gwhatever his name was saying things like he did. Her being known here did help. What do you expect a reputation to be used for? Had I not known her I would have thought scam, but I did, so I didn't. I'm not real smart, but I figured it out. How come you geniuses are having such a tough time?

There's supposed to have been this guy a long time ago who said something like let those of you have haven't ever made a mistake go right ahead and throw the first stone at this person who has. I have no rocks for this one.

For those who do have them ready, what's it like being perfect?

 

[Lucille]

Do I regret having to use the shipping money? Absolutely. But I HAD NO CHOICE.

I can understand the difficult situation that was presented to Jen. I do not believe it is casting aspersions to ask how this could be handled differently in the future, since life and difficulties are rarely strangers. In fact, is is to Jen's benefit to address this so that future customers will have no qualms in buying, although the fact that she did take care of the situation speaks highly of her.

I don't know one person that hasn't had a month or two where literally EVERYTHING went wrong and came crashing down on them. Hopefully this was my turn for the year.

I am hoping that you do not have such a collection of disaster for a long while.

 

[guruza]

I think that if you are not in a position where you can afford to hold onto shipping money, you should not be selling reptiles. Buyer should definitely beware this seller. You may or may not receive what you purchase depending on how healthy her cat is at the moment of your purchase.

 

[SofaKing]

Now I know who's been hit in the head afew to many times with rocks...

Are those who enjoy kissing Jens a** done? Or is the line continuing?

Everyone has bumps in the road, it's life. When someone has bumps in the road it's constantly used as an excuse. Business and personal lives are two completely different things , when you start letting one interfere with the other, that's what becomes the problem and you should stop doing business all together.

We all have choices, but we are judged on the choices we make and they say alot about a person. But why praise some one for doing what they are expected to is beyond me....

 

[guruza]

Now I know who's been hit in the head afew to many times with rocks...

Are those who enjoy kissing Jens a** done? Or is the line continuing?

Everyone has bumps in the road, it's life. When someone has bumps in the road it's constantly used as an excuse. Business and personal lives are two completely different things , when you start letting one interfere with the other, that's what becomes the problem and you should stop doing business all together.

We all have choices, but we are judged on the choices we make and they say alot about a person. But why praise some one for doing what they are expected to is beyond me....

EXACTLY!

 

[hhmoore]

A lot of people post sales to help cover life's financial difficulties...and people purchase knowing full well that the money isn't going to be held in security. The problem in this case was that Jen put herself in the position of not keeping enough money to complete the transaction. Regardless of excuses/explanations, she created this particular problem. That is unfortunate for both parties involved; but she did the right thing. (Personally, I suspect that this thread made the matter a priority; so it served its purpose.)

As far as the mention of ass-kissing, I'm glad I haven't been following closely...I haven't noticed any since the refund was announced.

 

[SofaKing]

A lot of people post sales to help cover life's financial difficulties...and people purchase knowing full well that the money isn't going to be held in security.

Your right. Just like when you deposit money in your bank, that money isn't physically their. But when it's time to collect, do you hear the bank making excuses why it's not their and they'll send it to you when they can?

The problem in this case was that Jen put herself in the position of not keeping enough money to complete the transaction. Regardless of excuses/explanations, she created this particular problem. That is unfortunate for both parties involved;

And that's no ones problem but hers, and should never been trickled down on someone else.

[ QUOTE] but she did the right thing. (Personally, I suspect that this thread made the matter a priority; so it served its purpose.) [/QUOTE]

The " To Do The Right Thing " is expected from everyone, it's not something that should be praised or celebrated.
I do agree that the thread made it a speedy refund, but she shouldn't be patted on the back for it!

 

[Guy Castro]

Your right. Just like when you deposit money in your bank, that money isn't physically their. But when it's time to collect, do you hear the bank making excuses why it's not their and they'll send it to you when they can?





And that's no ones problem but hers, and should never been trickled down on someone else.

[ QUOTE] but she did the right thing. (Personally, I suspect that this thread made the matter a priority; so it served its purpose.)

The " To Do The Right Thing " is expected from everyone, it's not something that should be praised or celebrated.
I do agree that the thread made it a speedy refund, but she shouldn't be patted on the back for it![/QUOTE]

EXACTLY!!! I could just imagine how long this would have gone on if this thread was never started.

 

[hhmoore]

The " To Do The Right Thing " is expected from everyone, it's not something that should be praised or celebrated.
I do agree that the thread made it a speedy refund, but she shouldn't be patted on the back for it!

Since you were quoting me, I guess it's appropriate to point out that there is a difference between acknowledging and praising. If you saw "praise" in my post, you misread it.

 

[meowmeowkazoo]

The " To Do The Right Thing " is expected from everyone, it's not something that should be praised or celebrated.
I do agree that the thread made it a speedy refund, but she shouldn't be patted on the back for it!

EXACTLY!!! I could just imagine how long this would have gone on if this thread was never started.

You're unbelievable.

Nobody is praising her. Acknowledging that she took care of the problem and issued a refund isn't praise, it's an honest assessment of what happened. She wasn't a bad guy here, despite how disappointed that seems to make you.

And here you are telling people to stop "praising" her, while implying that without this thread she never would have refunded the original poster. Hypocritical much?

I don't know what kind of personal issue you have with Jen, but you're not making yourself look good by trying to turn this thread against her after she already made things right.