As they would say in law circles there's a lot of circumstantial evidence but not enough to convict, that's probably why both accounts are still active.
Ok lets address the "connections"
You guys say we have the same ip address.... If you look back to the post with the ip address (page 13 post 124) you will see, I myself thought that the ip addy I shared with him was one of the proxys I use at the work computer but its not. 3 different ips are listed for Jerry... 2 from fdcservers.net and 1 from Cellular South. The one that matches mine is cellular south, cell south is the largest cell phone company on the gulf coast. There based right here out of gulfport Mississippi. Anyone within reasonable distance of there main tower in gulfport while surfing the net on there phone would have that ip addy. All 3 of his ips are public ips, anyone could access them.
Either way, even if you still think Im Jerry.... If you read back in this thread Jerry asked everyone who sent out money to please cancel all checks. Funny thing is he asked everyone to do this before any allegations of him being a scammer or him and I being the same person was even broght up? Now if he was trying to scam some people why would he ask them to cancel checks at all? And for everyone who thinks Im Jerry and was trying to scam people if I were him I would see reason to say cancel the check after allegations of me and him being one in the same were brought up but not before???
As for the snakes he was selling Ive said numerous time if a mod (someone who I know wont harass my customers) would like the info on who I sold any snakes to they can PM me.... I got no PM's at all!
So to sum up things:
1. All his ip addys were public ones that anyone would access
2. Everyone says hes a scammer but he asked everyone to cancel checks publicly on this board before any alligations were brought up.
3. Hes a scammer that never took anyones money at all?
Hell even if I were him I still dont see how he has scammed anyone on here?
There I tried explaining best I could. Im sure you all will just look over all this and still say yea yea scammer scammer scammer but its cool. I (Michael Harshbarer) will still be here years from now. Ill still be in the hobby/business breeding new and exciting things weather you like it or not. If your trying to run me off.... well keep trying because its not working now and it wont work later.
Sincerely,
-Michael Harshbarger
The thing that puzzles me is this; I have talked to both Jerry and Michael (responding to another ad Michael posted) on the phone and both of them called me back; one from a Woodstock, Il phone number (Jerry), and another from MS (Michael). They did not sound like the same person to me. Both of them seemed like very nice, knowledgeable people. So, if they are the same person (which I doubt) and they are scammers, they are very good ones. Anyway, here's the question that I think will answer everything: Other than me, how many other people did Jerry sell the bee to on this ad that sent him (or was going to send him) money for her? If no one else says he sold it to them as well as me, then there we go. If someone else was sold the same bee, well, I guess we know our answer...I'm VERY interested to see the answers to this.
Thanks-
Dav Kaufman
Since I have to explain so much. Someone explain why this hasn't been answered.
And in jerrys defence I think a scammer would sell the same snake over and over again don't you?
Since I have to explain so much. Someone explain why this hasn't been answered.
Originally Posted by davkaufman
The thing that puzzles me is this; I have talked to both Jerry and Michael (responding to another ad Michael posted) on the phone and both of them called me back; one from a Woodstock, Il phone number (Jerry), and another from MS (Michael). They did not sound like the same person to me. Both of them seemed like very nice, knowledgeable people. So, if they are the same person (which I doubt) and they are scammers, they are very good ones. Anyway, here's the question that I think will answer everything: Other than me, how many other people did Jerry sell the bee to on this ad that sent him (or was going to send him) money for her? If no one else says he sold it to them as well as me, then there we go. If someone else was sold the same bee, well, I guess we know our answer...I'm VERY interested to see the answers to this.
Thanks-
Dav Kaufman
And in jerrys defence I think a scammer would sell the same snake over and over again don't you?
Hi all. I understand the worry and will try to ease your minds. The reason I dont do paypal is I just dont have an account and my friend said i could use his but only for small transactions as he is not "verified" and can only take out a small amount out of his account each month. After talking to a lot of people over email and phone it seems that everyone likes to use paypal so I am in the process of setting up one. I have even contacted people who have sent me funds and seemed worried about it and said they can put a stop to the check and wait until I set up paypal, they declined. I have a local coming to look at what I have left this weekend and after the hundreds of emails I just put the ad as sold. I cant take a hundred plus emails a day lol.... I am going to bed but will check back tomorrow night to answer anymore questions.
"If I recall correctly he did say his wife was in MS correct? I would think that if his wife were there and he was moving there he would be there from time to time... I never saw a post saying that he was still in IL, I will also say I never saw one saying he was in MS though, just his wife." Genefreak339
Sorry I dont know how to put multiple quotes in the same post
Well Michael/Jerry if you read that post it says he has a local coming that weekend it would sound like he was still in IL to me, but that meeting never happened because he/you were in Mississippi paying a couple girls (probably with scammed money) to take a pic with you while they kissed you on the cheek.
Since I have to explain so much. Someone explain why this hasn't been answered.
And in jerrys defence I think a scammer would sell the same snake over and over again don't you?