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Jim Case, Jason Koscak & Jeremy Clark - Cleveland,TN [email protected] (BAD GUYS)

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Jim Case, Jason Koscak & Jeremy Clark - Cleveland,TN [email protected] (BAD GUYS)

These three guys, spearheaded by Jim Case of Cleveland, TN tried to rip me off for about $3000.00 on 12/28 - 12/30/04. I secured a CB H.h. horridum shipped DELTA for $1050.00 via Western Union, the balance on the albino balls was to paid by overnight check. When the animals didn't show up on the 4 PM flight on the 29th I was told by Jim Case that Jason Koscak had chosen NOT to send the animal DELTA because the 10:35 flight out of Chatanooga, TN was delayed and that it would arrive EARLY AM UPS on the 30th. They chose to send a POISONOUS reptile and 2.0 adult ALBINO ball pythons via UPS instead!

The UPS tracking number checked out but the AMAZON.com box arrived empty of reptiles and half open. No bags or other evidence that the animals had EVER been in the box, the Hand Warmer (22 hour at best?) heat packs were stone cold and the box was oversized with only crumpled newspaper for packing and insulation (NO STYRO at all). Repeated phone calls yielded no results so me, my son and a good friend drove 7 hours to thier front door, gave them thier empty box and collected the money and left.

We were VERY fortunate to have had things go as smoothly as they did. I would NOT recommend this approach generally. The best policy is DO NOT send money to unknowns, especially by Western Union.
 
Um, don't you mean venomous?

Its a good thing you weren't far away to get your money back. Others might not be so lucky.
 
Scam buster

I think we need to start kicking the scammers in the face to make them realize that ripping a fellow herper off is out of the question. Allen, I am glad things went well for you. Jeremy Clark has ripped several people off in the past. Several people are after his *ss as we speak. He has his coming and if he keep trying to rip people off someone is gonna really hurt him and his friends. I know I would do just what you did if they ripped me off. As a matter of fact Jason Koscak was trying to scam me out of 100.00 for a helix unit. I didn't put it together until Terry called me and told me what happened to you. That is when I noticed that the Jason that ripped you is the one I was supposed to send the 100.00 to. Hope he gets stopped from doing this to anyone else. Thanks DAVID
 
I need jeremys contact info.

Does anyone have his contact info? Phone number, adress, etc? I would appreciate it. He still owes me 1400$, I went to his house last year after he screwed me out of alot of animals. He is a little bitty sh*t that gets very scared when someone shows up at his house as 10 PM. :dgrin: I drove 7 hours to get there! And I'll do it again!! I got most of my animals back but he had already sold my albino boa and some other stuff. He signed a contract infront of me and bob hammond stating that he would pay me back my money .....guess what....in never happend.
Anyway, I am in the process of taking this little punk to court and hopefully getting my money back that way.
Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks!
Steve Ingram
 
Address

Here is the latest address I got for Jason koscak, I am not sure how he is connected with Jeremy but I believe BOB said they are buddies or he uses that name. here it is Steve.

Jason Koscak
972 6th st. n.e. #2
Cleveland, Tn 37311
And E-mail
[email protected]

Hope this helps STEVE. Thanks David
 
Again

Fortunately Alan, you got your money back. :)

I posted a reply on a thread about Veasna Muth and heres the link;

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=208499#post208499

Several people have contacted me about what I did to recover my investment. I have also replied to some that haven't.

KS, Fauna, Reptibid, and others are only an honor system and after enough people have been burned or wronged are they able to suspend an account and/or ban them. They are NOT the solution to a theft recovery, only a conduit for those that haven't purchased yet to be able to find out in a nutshell if they are good or bad people. Assuming you have spelled their name correctly.

Most thefts through the herp world are done through the internet. Thus making it an internet theft crime. As I said in the other post, it is a big ticket item. Making it alot easier to recover your money. The ONLY true solution to a theft is to contact the local authorities where the theif or thieves reside
, and/or where you sent the money. It is their job to fix it. Obviously the more information you have on the individual, the easier. Also for those that don't use Paypal, set up an account. It would seriously benefit you in the long run if you have spent 2000 dollars. A measly 50 bucks for Paypal fees are worth it. I would not suggest EVER using a money order for the purchase of an animal as I have been scammed, the first and only time I have done it.

Hopefully for those that missed the other thread, or have been burned, they are reading this one. Your money may only be a phone call away. In turn you help the next guy buying from making the same mistake.

Jeff & Starr
5StarrMorphs
 
crazy

I live only 10 mins from Cleveland, TN. I didn't know this joker even existed. Good luck working things out and hopefully this thread will stop the transaction before it happens next time... I doubt those snakes were ever in that box.
 
Thankful

I'm so thankful I started viewing the BOI before I've ever been scammed.....I keep hearing all these horrible stories over and over. I know one thing. I can promise you all that Sunset Gecko <b>WILL NOT</b> rip you off or give you all the bs all these other breeders do. I know I may not have quite the *urban* or *tremper* reputation of honesty and quality, but I haven't been breeding for near as long. I'm surprised I've managed to blindly slip past all the mines set up by these scammers, and for that I am truly thankful. I hope that some of them start getting punished in court. :uzi:
 
Awesome.....

Im hella glad to hear that someone/you went to this crooks house ..I have been scammed by a guy in Fl. & still check up on all his info to see if he is still there ..he is.. Now im in Tx. so that is not a 7 hr drive. but I have a buddy that lives about 30 min from him,and I have a herping trip planned this spring there.& you can bet your sweet a$$ Im going strait to his frontdoor...this guy took me for alot of snakes..... I cant wait to see the look on his face...... PROPZ...... Mike Clark..... :dgrin:
 
To Steve and everyone else who has dealt with this little punk,

Jeremy has moved. The address on 6th street isn't right anymore. The other address that was on the box was 212 Hidden Forest Drive Cleveland, TN 37323. I don't know where Jeremy moved to, but I saw him moving out. I hope for my sake it is out of Cleveland Tennessee. He is really a thorn in my side; he still owes me money too. If I find out that he is in another cleveland address I will post it as soon as I find it.

Bob Hammond
 
Keep the Pressure on and the info flowing.

Let's keep the pressure on these scum bags and ebemtually they'll turn thier "talents" to other endeavors. THX for the post, Bob!
 
steveingram said:
Does anyone have his contact info? Phone number, adress, etc? I would appreciate it. He still owes me 1400$, I went to his house last year after he screwed me out of alot of animals. He is a little bitty sh*t that gets very scared when someone shows up at his house as 10 PM. :dgrin: I drove 7 hours to get there! And I'll do it again!! I got most of my animals back but he had already sold my albino boa and some other stuff. He signed a contract infront of me and bob hammond stating that he would pay me back my money .....guess what....in never happend.
Anyway, I am in the process of taking this little punk to court and hopefully getting my money back that way.
Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks!
Steve Ingram

I think I have a new address for these guys. 550 11th St SE. UPS called me after they recived an insurance pay off request from Jsoan and Jeremy for "a laptop and other electronic eqpt" they had suppossedly sent to me and had been "lost". These guys are such theives! Hope this helps!

Alan Bosch
 
Thanks!!

Reptileman1,

Thanks for the info!!! I am going to the court house today to get a civil suit started against jeremy. He still owes me 1410$ and I am going to do my best to get it!

Thanks again!!

Steve Ingram
 
Why cant this thief be arrested!

He is a habitual perpetrator, and needless to say a leech on this industry. It amazes me that nothing can be done with the exception of knowing where he lives and threatning him to recover monies.

:toiletcla
 
Jeremy Clark/Jason Koscak

He never gives up. I have periodically gotten emails from Jeremy Clark to let me know he's soooo willing to take any snake we have in our shelter. One time I finally told him I would come to personally inspect his facility before I would consider is request. He finally left me alone. Today, I get an email from Jason :
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This message was sent through the Contact Form at PetHobbyist.com Rescue Group & Shelter Locator.
This person will not know your email address until you reply to them.
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i'm more interested in snakes. if you can help me with anything, that would be great. please contacat me. i'm in cleveland tn.

This message was sent to you from the contact form
at PetHobbyist.com Rescue Group & Shelter Locator at
http://www.pethobbyist.com/adoption

I did email him back and ask what kind of snake he's interested in and what kind of experience he has. Can't wait for his answer.

His email that I replied back to is [email protected].
 
During the past month or so, I have received several emails from people who said that they have received my name as a character or business reference from Jeremy Clark or Jim Case. As far as I can remember, I have had no contact with either of them and have no firsthand knowledge of them. I don't know why they are using me as a reference, since I have told everyone who asks to check them out carefully because I don't remember them. If they continue to use my name, I will just send people to this thread for info about them. Looks like that would not prove helpful to them!

Has anyone else had their name used as a reference for them?
 
Don't forget Tina from this email address....

"Tina" emailed me abut a poss. trade for some animals I had listed. I always check the BOI - especially concerning trades- it is a great service!! Anywho, I told Tina to send me a list of what she has to trade. Get this - this is the list she/he sent:
Colubrids
2.3 mandarins
1.1 bloodred corn
2.1 opal corns
3.1 stripe bloodred corns

Balls
1.3 albino
2.1 clown
5.5 spiders
1.2 piebalds
5.13 various pastels
also 100 hets for all these types

Boas
2.2 albino Kahl line
3.2 04 albino Kahl
1.2 04 stripe albino Kahl
Of course I knew it was scam right away. I mean who has all these animals available & doesn't advertise? Get real!! I replied w/ a request for a phone # (figuring I would not be speaking to any Tina) & guess what - no reply. Go figure - there are some real gems out there.
 
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