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Jim Stevens ( Cages N Constrictors ) Inquiry

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Anyone know a Jim Stevens from Cages N Constrictors ? [email protected]


Someone was asking me some info about this guy and I have never heard of him.

I do see that he has ads on KS and those ads seem familiar to me....
but for some reason I have been having problems piecing things together lately.


Any good or bad experiences?
 
yeah people have been writing me about it all day.
I finally remembered.

Anyway I wonder,
for a guy who says he has nothing to hide from the herp world.....I wonder why he keeps changing his name.

BUT

This Jim Steven's guy can be a real person (he comes with an address in California and a phone number in florida). Anyway if he is a real person. I wonder if kingsnake knows that more than one person is using that account.
 
well since we are already here

he posted this on his thread
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30871&perpage=5&pagenumber=126
You know "R"itchie,... even though you, Brian, Wes, Pat and Al went so very far out of your ways to *attempt* to do me damage (though I have yet to see any actual damage, either short term or long term),.... I am not angry about it. I am not going to hold any form of any kind of a grudge over it and I have no intentions whatsoever of seeking out any kind of silly revenge. I'm not like that. I'm actually a peaceful guy and like to avoid any form of trouble or violent confrontations. So regardless of what you guys do here, I only wish the best for you and your loved ones and I feel no ill will toward any of you.
That is a nice, wonderful and uplifting PUBLIC statement.

So after watching him for a few. I decided towrite to him.
I do it to all the "bad guys" whom I think have been doing good business. I basically give them a pat on the back and let them know we......or at least I am behind them. After all I would rather have them as good guys in our hobby rather than kick them out as bad guys. Needless to say I was wrong for thinking he changed.

You are absolutley right.
You have noit turned things around.
Looks like you are still the asshole everyone says you are.
Underestimate who you are?
a wanna be who claims to have animals he does not have.
a wanna be who has to fake the sizes of his animals.

Deal with it when the time comes?
a little low life like yourself want to threaten me?
PUHLEASE

You have done nothing wrong that is why you have to fake the names on your
e-mails and everything else.
=======================
Ritchie Luna
www.RitchieReptiles.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Stewart" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: RE:


Go <font color=red>[**censored**]</font> yourself punk. I haven't "turned things around". I never needed to as I was never doing bad business. And don't try to get all nice with me.
You said and did many things about me and to me that can never be undone. Like many others you greatly underestimated who and what I am and what I am about. Deal with it when the time comes.


From: "Ritchie" [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:35:58 -0500
I have not heard a negative thing about you.

OBVIOUSLY you are doing good business.
Keep it up.
It is good to see someone that was labeled as "shady" turn things around.
I am truly elated.
I know some people think I just look for the bad in people.
But it is really quite the opposite.
good luck and happy herping.
=======================
Ritchie Luna
www.RitchieReptiles.com
So as you can see his public statement is just that.... a statement to show his "good nature" to the public. But privately and behind everyone else's eyes he is quite different. His public statement is nothing but a lie.

here is an e-mail that seems to be getting passed around.
From:
"Brian Smith" [email protected] Add to Address Book

To:
[email protected]

Subject:
Reward Money!! Forward this to as many herpers as you can.

Date:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Top of Form


Bottom of Form



Hi XXXXXXXXXXX, I am emailing this form email concerning obtaining information regarding the people in the herp industry behind spreading lies about me and repeatedly sabatoging me and my attempts to do business as a breeder.

Please forward this to as many herpers as you possibly can and urge them to also forward it along. Just try to make sure that it does NOT go to people that are obviously behind these character assassinations on me if at all possible.



To all herpers,.. Cash Money Rewards Offered for Valid Information:

In recent days and in past years there has been a concerted effort to sabatoge me and my efforts to establish myself as a breeder by individuals that are currently breeding reptiles, or closely associated with large reptile breeders. Many slanderous lies and bad rumors have been spread about me and posted in forums. When I defend myself I am banned, however these individuals causing the problems and instigating the issues are not.

For anyone that is even remotely aware of the rumors and lies I speak of you are also familiar with the individuals behind it.

I am offering cold hard cash rewards for any and all valid
information on these people and their connections to others in this scheme to try to keep me down as a breeder and reptile business man. Here is how this will work:

For every; 1.Name, 2.Valid phone numbers, 3.Valid Address,... of each individual involved in this anti-Damon/BrianSmith campaign I will pay $100 cash or $200 credit toward the purchase of a high end morph.

For any information connecting individuals to one another that are not already known by me, like a association between a member or members from one clique or forum, to personel of kingsnake; I offer $50 cold hard cash or $100 credit toward morphs.

For any information about any individuals that are "in the shadows", helping to provide personal information about me to others that are openly attacking me; I offer $100 cold hard cash or $200 credit toward reptile morphs.

For anyone that can tell me nearly the whole story, who is all behind it, from a timeline beginning 2 years ago to present, that ties in all the parties involved, and provides valid numbers and addresses for all or nearly all the parties; I offer $2000 dollars cold hard cash or a pair of unrelated albino retics.

Needless to say,... any information offered to me that I already have will not be considered new info and thus will not qualify for a reward. All new information will qualify for reward monies but must be verified before reward monies are paid. Reward monies will be paid by postal money orders snail mailed to the provider. If two parties provide the same information only the first will recieve reward monies. All information and corrospondence is 100% confidential and the provider will NEVER be revealed to anyone by me.

Please do not ever email me ANY of the information directly to me but rather email me a phone number where I can reach you to instruct you on where to send the information. The email to contact me with a phone number will be [email protected]

I hope to hear from you soon. Email me and tell me a story and you'll be in my favor forever.


So someone who is not holding a grudge is certainly on the hunt.
Someone who says this does not affect his "business" is certainly on the hunt.
 
To those who are wondering why I asked about this Jim Stevens.
It is because of this

Can you check out who this guy is for me
================
www.XXXXXXXXXXXX.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cages N Constrictors" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:56 AM
Subject: Caramel Dumerils


> Hi guys,
> I am writing to everyone that has shown interest in the gravid caramel
> dumerils and her mate simultaneously. Enclosed are some pictures taken
just
> a few minutes ago. We hung the female a bit so that her pregnancy can
easily
> be observed.
> Now,... here's the deal: I have had more than one person write and tell
me
> that they were 100% interested and to hold the snakes for them. I did this
> three times already and each time the person failed to send payment. So I
am
> no longer accepting someone's promise to send payment if I hold them. The
> first person to send me 1000 for the pair, or 800 for just the gravid
female
> will be the lucky buyer. This price includes free shipping. The address to
> send a cashiers check or money orders (only) is: Jim Stevens 575 E. Santa
Fe
> st. San Bernardino, CA 92408
> I apologize for the delay on the pictures. I was waiting for the male to
> shed and I have been incredibly busy the last two weeks with other
breeding
> projects and the arrival of many eggs.
> If any of you have any questions feel free to call me at 352 255 2157
any
> time between noon and midnight California time.
>
> Thank you, Jim

Address in California.
Phone number traced to flarida (unless I did it wrong)

Looks like someone who has nothing to hide is changing his name.

OR

more than one person uses that account.

I bet KS would LOVE to know about that.
 
Ritchie Luna said:
cool thanks

I wonder how much money I will get if I give him my home number, cell phone and address.

Silly Ritchie, kicks are for trids.

Doubtless he ALREADY has that information.

I don't think he's gonna be sending anything out to anyone. No one who knows as much as he does will learn anything by the method he's employing now.

Maybe you could offer your ferreting services to him at a flat rate. Naw. you probably wouldn't like working for a guy like him.

Then again, what a great way to find out who some of the unknown bad guys are, providing they are not all aliases of brian/damon/josh.
 
Yeah I think it back fired.
He was trying to find out stuff about everyone else involved in his "conspiracy theory". The e-mail gets forwarded to me.
I then go and decide to actually read some of my e-mails and run into his address.....................whoopsy
 
Jim Stevens is a real person with his own reptiles, etc. It looks like he's in the process of moving to California, hense the phone number and address confusion.

So move along folks, nothing to see here. LOL!
 
You may NOT post advertisements for other businesses or individuals, regardless of whether they are friends or family members. This account is established in the name of a SINGLE ENTITY. If more than one person is found to be using a single account without prior permission, that account will be IMMEDIATELY TERMINATED with no notice or warning. If a person OTHER than the one listed in the registration form is found using the account the account will be terminated. Anyone found violating this rule is committing Theft of Service and may be prosecuted as such.
 
Sybella said:

So move along folks, nothing to see here. LOL!

Nothing to see here?

sorry but your buddy is in the wrong.
Disregard of the classifieds TOS
Veiled threats.

Do you really think he wants information for these people because he wants to send them free animals?

I know you are in love with him or what not. (still have not figured that stuff out)
I know you think he is a great guy.


But gee...I don't think he has changed at all.

oh I forgot......he only acts like this when he is drinking right?
after all that is what you said about your wonderful boy friend
Such a wonderful great guy does all these things huh?
 
So move along folks, nothing to see here. LOL!

Gee Sybella, do even read before you respond? Or do you just follow some reactionary instinct defend Brian/Damon/Josh (whatever) in all situations blindly?

Nothing to see huh…

Our man wants to BUY personal information about people (like me for instance) in some pale attempt at “discovering” some conspiracy against him. So at minimum there’s a mental heath issue to “see” here…at maximum, a “reformed” convicted felon is taking steps to follow through on his numerous threats. But I personally think he’s something in the middle - a mentally disturbed conman who needs to be taken to task for his behavior, and nothing more.

-Randy May
 
Nothing to see huh…

Our man wants to BUY personal information about people (like me for instance) in some pale attempt at “discovering” some conspiracy against him. So at minimum there’s a mental heath issue to “see” here…at maximum, a “reformed” convicted felon is taking steps to follow through on his numerous threats. But I personally think he’s something in the middle - a mentally disturbed conman who needs to be taken to task for his behavior, and nothing more.

wow I wish I can convey my thoughts that well.

but alas I am but a wee little simple man who made a con man / liar / (insert bad adjective here) mad at him.
 
Yes, Randy, I read it all before I posted. LOL!! I see perfectly clear and I'm dumbfounded, yet again, by all of this pettiness that certain members of the BOI are capable of.

This is the BOI and I have yet to see a single person come forward and say, "Damon scammed me on a snake deal!!!" So, what's the deal here?? Now, I could fully understand the discussion of this IF someone posted an inquiry or response about Damon due to a transaction of some sort but that hasn't happened. Twice now his name has been brought up here just so certain people could attack him, and everyone who is thought to associate with him. Get a life, guys. This has gotten soooo old.

And, Ritchie..."veiled threats." That's the pot calling the kettle black! LOL!! You sent him the email that started that. What did you think would happen when you sent such an ill-spirited, condescending note?? Duh!! LOL!!

PS. You're my boyfriend again, Damon...cool, huh?? LOL!!
 
O.K. Check this out.

I was within a half mile of that address today! I used to live in Loma Linda Ca, for about 5 years, which is a nice college/medical community about 2 miles or so from that address. So I know the area EXTREMELY well. The address Ritchie posted is right in the middle of the ghetto. I wouldnt even drive through there during the day! Of course that does not make this guy a bad person, I am just relaying what I know.

A few years ago a reptile store opened within a few blocks of the address on Santa Fe. It went out of business only a couple of months after it opened. Although I cannot say for sure, I think it was called "Cages and Constrictors". Like I said I am not positive, I will have to check later today on the name. I have driven several hundred miles today and I am beat so after getting a little sleep I will call my friends and post here.
 
And, Ritchie..."veiled threats." That's the pot calling the kettle black! LOL!! You sent him the email that started that. What did you think would happen when you sent such an ill-spirited, condescending note?? Duh!! LOL!!


I'll spirited condascending note?
I guess you are not to familiar with how e-mail works.
the first letter sent is down there. Then his reply to me. then my reply to him is up top
You are absolutley right.
You have noit turned things around.
Looks like you are still the asshole everyone says you are.
Underestimate who you are?
a wanna be who claims to have animals he does not have.
a wanna be who has to fake the sizes of his animals.

Deal with it when the time comes?
a little low life like yourself want to threaten me?
PUHLEASE

You have done nothing wrong that is why you have to fake the names on your
e-mails and everything else.
=======================
Ritchie Luna
www.RitchieReptiles.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Stewart" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: RE:


> Go <font color=red>[**censored**]</font> yourself punk. I haven't "turned things around". I never needed to
> as I was never doing bad business. And don't try to get all nice with me.
> You said and did many things about me and to me that can never be undone.
> Like many others you greatly underestimated who and what I am and what I
am
> about. Deal with it when the time comes.
>
>
> >From: "Ritchie" <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:35:58 -0500
> >
> >I have not heard a negative thing about you.
> >OBVIOUSLY you are doing good business.
> >Keep it up.
> >It is good to see someone that was labeled as "shady" turn things around.
> >I am truly elated.
> >I know some people think I just look for the bad in people.
> >But it is really quite the opposite.
> >good luck and happy herping.
> >=======================
> >Ritchie Luna
> >www.RitchieReptiles.com

but just in case you are blinded by love here you go
my first letter to him
From: "Ritchie" <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:35:58 -0500
> >
> >I have not heard a negative thing about you.
> >OBVIOUSLY you are doing good business.
> >Keep it up.
> >It is good to see someone that was labeled as "shady" turn things around.
> >I am truly elated.
> >I know some people think I just look for the bad in people.
> >But it is really quite the opposite.
> >good luck and happy herping.
> >=======================
> >Ritchie Luna
> >www.RitchieReptiles.com



his response to me
From: "Josh Stewart" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: RE:


> Go <font color=red>[**censored**]</font> yourself punk. I haven't "turned things around". I never needed to
> as I was never doing bad business. And don't try to get all nice with me.
> You said and did many things about me and to me that can never be undone.
> Like many others you greatly underestimated who and what I am and what I
am
> about. Deal with it when the time comes.


which in turn ignited my response to him
You are absolutley right.
You have noit turned things around.
Looks like you are still the asshole everyone says you are.
Underestimate who you are?
a wanna be who claims to have animals he does not have.
a wanna be who has to fake the sizes of his animals.

Deal with it when the time comes?
a little low life like yourself want to threaten me?
PUHLEASE

You have done nothing wrong that is why you have to fake the names on your
e-mails and everything else.
=======================
Ritchie Luna
www.RitchieReptiles.com



I'll spirited note?
you must be TRULY blinded by love.
my note was to give him a pat on the back and to tell him hey keep up the good work

Here is an example.
I was one of the BIGGEST ANTI Mathew Martin persons in the world. (well next to Jason) Matt has turned things around in my opinion. I started writing him a while back giving him a words of encouragement. And now I do not give him words of encouragement anymore. I talk to him like a normal friend. We would exchange a few e-mails for the last year. I trust him enough to send money out before I even see a snake.


Twice now his name has been brought up here just so certain people could attack him,
That is VERY VERY interesting how you phrased that.
Because this was a legitimate inquiry about a Jim Stevens. I did not inquire about Damon. As aforementioned I failed to make the company connection in my head.
I inquired about Jim. You say this post was Made to attack Brian/Damon.
Are you therefore telling me Jim Stevens is Brian / Damon?


The address Ritchie posted is right in the middle of the ghetto. I wouldnt even drive through there during the day! Of course that does not make this guy a bad person,
And Damon always talks about his BIG house with all his vehicles ad worldy possesions.....................hhhhhmmmmm
 
And, Ritchie..."veiled threats." That's the pot calling the kettle black! LOL!!
Do you even know what you are talking about?

when you say pot calling the kettle black....
it means you are implying I did the same to him.

Can you show me where my veiled threats were?
Can you show me where I told him to deal with it when the time comes?
Can you show me where I was paying big Dolla for information on his whereabouts?



p.s. hey Damon / Brian / Josh / Jim or whatever you are calling yourself today. I don't think you are offering a high enough amount. After all, whoever told you that you were only 500 miles away from me is totally wrong. You get what you pay for. Raise up the $$$$ and I bet you get more information. There are people out there who have my addy ad phone and they happen to need money too. So raise up the $$$$ and I bet you get a hit.
 
Twice now his name has been brought up here just so certain people could attack him

I'm pretty certain it was his own petty e-mail regarding his misguided scheme and irrational claims about the reptile industry. So it’s through his own hand that he’s back under the microscope of the BOI…not some coincide, or *cough* conspiracy *cough*.

-Randy May
 
Ritchie Luna said:
I'll spirited condascending note?
I guess you are not to familiar with how e-mail works.
the first letter sent is down there. Then his reply to me. then my reply to him is up to


Yes, I am familiar with how email programs sort replies. LOL!!

Ill spirited note?
you must be TRULY blinded by love.
my note was to give him a pat on the back and to tell him hey keep up the good work

Yes, absolutely ill-spirited and condescending. After you tried to squeeze him through the ringer here on the BOI, you sent him that and you thought you were going to get a "thank you?" Get real. Who are you to send him a "pat on the back?" I don't buy for a second that you were trying to be NICE to him! You wanted to get a rise out of him so you can attempt to make him look bad yet again and you did. Congratulations.

That is VERY VERY interesting how you phrased that.
Because this was a legitimate inquiry about a Jim Stevens. I did not inquire about Damon. As aforementioned I failed to make the company connection in my head.
I inquired about Jim. You say this post was Made to attack Brian/Damon.
Are you therefore telling me Jim Stevens is Brian / Damon?

LOL! Don't fish for something that isn't there, Ritchie. Look back at your 4th post in this thread. This ceased being about Jim Stevens and morphed into a "gang up on Damon" thread in that post alone. As I said, Jim is someone entirely different. I don't know him so I wont divolve anything personal about him but all I've heard is good things about him.

And, Ritchie...I realize that your role here is to be an antagonist but I feel that you take it way too far. You throw out insults and accusations all the time, some of which can easily be taken as "veiled threats." I'm not going to go into who said what to whom but you are BOTH talking trash. So yes, you are the pot calling the kettle black! (And then you try to deny it. LMAO!!!)

Randy, I see your point. I'm not saying that I agree, but I see your point. ;)

Now, I am done here. Unless I get "called out" to denfend myself again, I'm done arguing with you. See ya!
 
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