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Take this for what you will. I sold John 2 baby bredli for cheap, only $325 shipped. So that was only $162.50 each. Now I have no issues with reselling an animal. John put one of the snakes up for sale about 2 days after getting it, asking $600. I just happen to think that is a bad business practices. I have no problems with making a profit, but a mark up like that is just basically robbing people. John is a nice person to deal with and talk to, aside from all this. I just felt like i should sau something, becuase I myself would be pissed if i paid such an extreme mark up like that for no reason.
 
C'mon, Leslie, that's a cheap shot. He owns the snake he can do what he wants with it. And just because he's asking that price doesn't mean hell get it. And what if he does? Does that mean you sold it too cheaply?

You complaint might have more merit if you were the one who spent hours on breeding and incubating the hatchlings and getting them started. But we all know that you brokered them yourself. And you offered them for sale within a day or two of receiving them. Now I'm not saying there is anything wrong with brokering. There isn't. But this just sounds like so much sour grapes.
 
I see your point. Like i said, i have no problems with reselling. I did the same thing. I bought 19 of them, and kept a few for myself and started selling the rest. I don't deny that at all. I wish John the best of luck to get $600 for the snake, i highly doubt he will. I just feel thats wrong to jack the price up that high. I mean we are all in this becuase of our love for the animals, and to make money. Yes i sold it cheap. I was originally asking $200 plus shipping. I wanted to move out my last few, and i sold them to him. He also bought 4 from me when i first put them up for sale. I'm not labeling him as a BAD GUY, I just think this situation is wrong, and wanted to state that. Nothing more
 
keep in mind, the people that see his ad will likely have already seen yours. if they wouldn't pop for the $200, they sure aren't going to step up for 3x that (unless they figure more $ = better quality, or someone that doesn't know the going price suddenly decides they gotta have 'em). bottom dropped out on those guys pretty quick :-(

(btw - no relation)
 
This is the lamest BOI thread I've ever read.

I'm really sick of people trying to dictate to someone the price of an animal they own.

If I sell someone something for $100, I don't care if they turn around and put $1000 on it or for that matter if I sell someone something for $20 and they sell it for $10.

It is THEIR ANIMAL TO SELL i.e. none of my business. That also means it's none of your business what that person asks for his animals.

Why do you care anyway? If it's priced too high, no one will buy it. Sounds simple to me.
 
ljsreptiles said:
I just felt like i should sau something, becuase I myself would be pissed if i paid such an extreme mark up like that for no reason.
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Have you ever purchased a reptile from a pet store? Because that's about what the markup is. If someone pays the $600 for it, then they probably feel that it's worth that much to them. (That or they don't shop around to find out what the average prices are) Just my opinion.
 
karen has a point...

I think that any good bussiness person is going to sell what he has for as much money as he can, its only good business sense. Why would you want to sell anything cheaper then what someone is willing to pay for it.
Leslie, I dont think you wiould be a good contestant on " The Apprentice", Donald would fry you for a state ment like this:

ljsreptiles said:
. I just happen to think that is a bad business practices. I have no problems with making a profit, but a mark up like that is just basically robbing people.
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It all based on supply and demand the the customers willingess to pay the asking price. If he sells them for that price then Kudos to him!!! I know how it is doing shows and people want to nickle and dime you on everything you have, and if they dont want to pay a certain price for it they wont.
 
Same sort of thing happen to me a couple weeks ago. Sold a guy a male beardie for $325 shipped. 5 days later saw it on various classifieds for $550. Apparently he got the dragon, threw him onto 2 or 3 females and was done with him. Didn't bother me any. But I did find it funny that he eventually sold it to a breeder I am friends with for $200 shipped. He wrote me a couple days ago complaining that I overcharged him!!! I wrote back and said I have no control over your business dealings. You chose to take a loss, has nothing to do with me.

But I sit and wonder. Did he really take a loss?............. I would vernture to say in the long run no. He just may have 3 outstanding clutches in a few months.
 
FurryLilDevils said:
He wrote me a couple days ago complaining that I overcharged him!!!
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You overcharged HIM! He has free will doesn't he? If he thought the price was too high, why did he buy the dragon? What an idiot.
 
Ok, call me dumb, but how is reselling something at a profit a bad business practice?

You no longer own it, if you thought you could have gotten a better price for it, you should have asked more. If he is able to make a profit, well, how is that harming you?
 
Though They can't be removed here is a prime candidate for a Thread that should be removed. It would be one thing if you gave someone a good deal on some animals you bred who said they were going to use them in a breeding project , who instead turned around and offered them or sale. I recently made a trade, I figured what my animals were worth and that what I was getting was of about the same value. The person I traded them to sold them for more than I would have offered them for. I just said wow they were worth more than I figured. They also have the reputation that I don't have as they sell a number of animals where I just sell a few. Besides asking a price and getting it can be two different things. Randy
 
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It would be one thing if you gave someone a good deal on some animals you bred who said they were going to use them in a breeding project , who instead turned around and offered them or sale.
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But in a situation such as the one described, would they be 100% obligated to breed the animals? Unless under contract, they can do whatever they please requardless of the "deal" you gave them.

Thats a situation that hits on a moral issue............. Many times morals sadly go out the window when money is involved.
 
"I just happen to think that is a bad business practices."

Actually, starting this thread was bad business practice...
 
Oh I agree, in my opinion it is bad business. And this thread really shouldn't be on the BOI.

But I have to admit I can see both sides of this story.
 
I can see both sides too, and yes one should be able to do with their animal as they please. Though you have to admit if you gave someone a deal who said they wanted the animals to breed and they turned around and sold them for more money, you get a bit upset.
Mike I agree with your last statement it happens that way all to often.Randy
 
Okay if I'm buying an animal from someone and I tell them I'm going to breed it then why does it cost less if I'm gonna breed it and MAKE MONEY selling the offspring? I'm at a loss as to this line of thinking.
 
Leslie,

I sold you those 19 at wholesale pricing. You had them posted for sale the same day you got them from me. The pics you posted were the animals still in my Deli's with my Bedding. Do you really want to open this can of worms?

S~
 
Zx7trev said:
Leslie,

I sold you those 19 at wholesale pricing. You had them posted for sale the same day you got them from me. The pics you posted were the animals still in my Deli's with my Bedding. Do you really want to open this can of worms?

S~
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Ok, I am lost............ Does this have anything to do with this current thread. I reread it twice and have no clue as to what you are referring Shawn. All I can think is that you are an outside source coming here to try to bring Leslie's skeletons out of her closet.

You yourself stated you sold her something "wholesale". Leslie would have done nothing "wrong" by reselling them. To me and many others the definition of wholesale is simple. Buy bulk amounts at a lower rate to resell for a profit later.........
 
"Though you have to admit if you gave someone a deal who said they wanted the animals to breed and they turned around and sold them for more money, you get a bit upset."

However, That was not the case here. Everyone that sells to John knows that he buys and then sells. More specifically, he buys ar whosale and sells at retail prices. If you do not like it don't sell to him. However, I find it ironic that Leslie is upset due to the fact that he to buys and then resells...
 
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