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Info Just a Friendly Heads Up Regarding Jack F.K./Jack Temple/Triops34

JG1153

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Hi so I was trying to obtain some Western Hognoses off of an ad (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130212) placed by Jack Temple(triops34) here on Fauna I posted a few simple questions on his ad and instead of answering them he quickly asked me to take the discussion privately(PM). I wanted to know whether he accepted paypal, whether he had any live arrival guarantee, how he shipped, his full name( his profile in Fauna just has Jack F. K.), and contact info like phone number/email, and his address( profile only has US) Just to make sure everything was legit. He PM’d back telling me he shipped fedex overnight, full name is Jack Temple, takes paypal ([email protected]) , doesn’t have a phone number ( who doesn’t have phone nowadays?), and his address is 901 Maple St, Lisbon, ND 58054, and his email is [email protected].

I thought it was kinda weird he was so adamant about discussing the transaction away from public eyes especially when at first all I was asking for was for some basic info not any personal info. I also thought listing his name as Jack F. K. on Fauna (JFK?) when his name is Jack Temple was also interesting. Then there’s the fact that he supposedly doesn’t have a phone. Kinda interesting considering you can give out phony info to customers, set-up a fake Fauna , Email, and paypal accounts using phony info but using phony info to set-up a fake phone number account is not going to be as easy (Reverse Phone look-up is Awesome!).

At the same time I was in contact and negotiating with the vendor I was also in contact with Dustin Dodge (ddodge) who was also interested in the same animals and was also in discussion with the vendor regarding these animals. Then vendor had no idea we were talking to each other about these animals but well to make a long story short he’s told us both independently that we’re both getting the animals from the ad and were both supposed to make payment on these animals in a few days when he’s back home??????????
Now I’m not necessarily saying this guy is out to scam someone perhaps this all a huge misunderstanding but the way he’s handled this situation and given the facts it definitely leaves a lot to be desired and definitely makes this whole situation look very fishy.:shrug01:

I’ll post all the PM’s between the vendor, Dustin, and I as soon as I get a chance and I’ll ask Dustin to do the same.
 
I'll agree with jg1153 on this matter, I'm glad we figured this out before it was too late on either end of the transaction. Tomorrow I'll post more.
 
Thanks

I also was attempting to purchase from him but he couldn't supply photos I requested.

Brent Beilstein
 
I went ahead and confronted the vendor about the situation and this was his reply

Hello, the reason is that I have reserved 20 more adult hognoses, next days I’ll go to Canada to bring these snakes. Other times people change her mind in the last moment, and I had reserved animals for people who “dissapear” in the last moment, I hate that, that’s why I said that to you. Ddodge is the first, he write to me before you, and if after my trip you still want the snakes them I send to you photos of the new snakes, and you choose. If I’d like to cheat you I’d said to you yesterday “pay now”. I don’t said that, I said “wait”
If something occur and I don’t obtain snakes, them I’ll say to you and you don’t loss your money.
If you don’t believe me, don’t buy my snakes, I’ll understand.
Sorry for the confussion.


I don't know but something is just off with this whole situation. wouldn't it have been easier to just tell one of us this right of the bat now it just looks like he's trying to cover up for trying to obtain money from two people for the same animals. Like I said before maybe I'm completely wrong but there sure are a lot of red flags going off here.:shrug01:
 
Sounds like the typical nigerian scammer grasp of the English language to me. I'd say stay faaar far away.
 
Can you please post all original communications with him? If someone contacts me about an ad, I usually prefer to deal through PM's and E-mail also. It could have been a minor error on his part, or even a communication issue, as English does not appear to be his first language. I would see if he comes up with the snakes and/or if he has the proper documentation, considering he says he's going to Canada to get them.

Also, have you notified him of this thread?
 
I've been watching this one since he started posting ads - I don't know who it IS...but the above email doesn't match anything else I have seen from him.
 
Can you please post all original communications with him? If someone contacts me about an ad, I usually prefer to deal through PM's and E-mail also. It could have been a minor error on his part, or even a communication issue, as English does not appear to be his first language. I would see if he comes up with the snakes and/or if he has the proper documentation, considering he says he's going to Canada to get them.

Also, have you notified him of this thread?

Sorry I've been traveling back to my project area/returning to work since I last posted but I'm where I need to be so I'll get on with getting the PMs posted.
 
The first part of the conversation is posted on the ad (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130212). Here’s the rest of it.

I sent (04-07-2009, 11:40 AM):

So like I was asking:
Do you take paypal?
what if any is your live arrival guarantee?
what are your terms of sale?
can I have your full name, address, and phone number/email or whatever contact info you have (I would like to talk to you before going through with the transaction)?


Sorry but you can never be too careful these days. Thanks for your time.

Juan


He replied (04-07-2009, 12:13 PM):

Hello Juan,
I accept Paypal, and I send via Fedex overnight. I can send the animals next week, because this week I have to do a trip. I have not telephone, sorry.
My name is Jack Temple, and my address is
901 Maple St, Lisbon, ND 58054
Let me know if you are finally interesed in these snakes, other guy from a near city is too interesed and he is waiting my answer
Greetings


I sent (04-07-2009, 12:42 PM):

Well I am definitely interested jack. shipping later is not a problem in fact that was one of the things I wanted to discuss with you. I'm also out of town at the moment for work and will remain out of town for some time. My friend is the one who receives new animals for me and takes care of my collection while I'm out. the only thing is due to his work schedule his only days off are Mondays and Tuesdays so shipping would have to be coordinated with him for you to ship on a Monday to receive on Tuesday. Let me know if this is ok with you? if this is alright then send me your paypal account so I can transfer the funds. Also it's cool if you don't have a phone number but do you have an email address. you never know shipments get delayed, lost, etc. in which case I would need to get a hold of you and if I have something more than just this forum then in such a situation it would make it easier to contact you.

Oh yeah do you have any kind of live arrival guarantee.Thanks.

Juan.


He replied (04-07-2009, 02:11 PM):

Hi Juan,
my paypal account is [email protected], but don'tmake the payment for the moment, this week I'll be travelling and I suposse that I come back on Saturday. Them I contact you again, If you make the payment this saturday or Sunday I can send the snakes on Monday, are you agree?
You can contact with me in the same email addres
let me know the addres to send the snakes, please.
If animals arrive in bad conditions I give the half of the payment back, are you agree? I have sent and received snakes before and I had never problems, they are hard animals
Greetings, jack


I sent (04-08-2009, 09:06 AM):

Yeah this all sounds good to me Jack except for one thing. If I'm supposed to be getting these animals and this deal is all good to go how come you've told Dustin Dodge basically the same thing as me and we're both supposed to be making payment on these animals in a few days?

What exactly are you trying to pull here man?


He sent (04-08-2009, 10:14 AM):

Hello, the reason is that I have reserved 20 more adult hognoses, next days I’ll go to Canada to bring these snakes. Other times people change her mind in the last moment, and I had reserved animals for people who “dissapear” in the last moment, I hate that, that’s why I said that to you. Ddodge is the first, he write to me before you, and if after my trip you still want the snakes them I send to you photos of the new snakes, and you choose. If I’d like to cheat you I’d said to you yesterday “pay now”. I don’t said that, I said “wait”
If something occur and I don’t obtain snakes, them I’ll say to you and you don’t loss your money.
If you don’t believe me, don’t buy my snakes, I’ll understand.
Sorry for the confussion.


Next I’ll post the conversation between me and Dustin.
 
Well, a reverse lookup of that address shows two names. One, a business named Dakota Touch of Health, the other a name Doneen F Fraase. Fixing to check out Dakota Touch of Health.
 
Another very interesting find here. I did a search on EuroFauna.com, and found the email address he says is his. According to the ad, he's located in Italy. I'd say that's very interesting indeed.

For sale: Elaphe situla CB'08 60€ Coluber hippocrepis CB'08 80€ Thamnophis s. tetrataenia CB'08 60€ Philodrias baroni adult 120€ email: [email protected]

Release: 23. 3. 2009 - 23:12
Name: Jack Country,City: Italy

ip: 81.169.139.133(DE)

Doesn't that say his IP is located in Germany? I could be wrong. But WAAAYYY fishy and enough for any person in their right minds to steer clear of I'd say.
 
After Dustin(ddodge) posted onto the ad I began conversing with him. Here’s that conversation.

I sent (04-07-2009, 11:27 AM):

Hey just a heads up. This guy's acting kinda fishy. One of the site mods thinks so too. For one I don't see why he won't answer my questions through the ad. I haven't asked him for any personal info just some basic stuff, why is he so adamant about taking this privately. anyway, maybe I'm just being too weary but like I said just a friendly heads up with this ad.

He sent (04-07-2009, 12:09 PM):

I appreciate it. If you want them they are yours, I don't want to pull them out from under you.

He sent (04-07-2009, 12:39 PM):

Has he pm'd you yet? He mentioned to me he had to go away this week and would contact me when he got back. I've done alot of online buisness on kingsnake but this does seem strange. I don't know what to think of this guy.

I sent (04-07-2009, 12:55 PM):

yes he just PM'd a few minutes ago. he also told me he was going out of town for the week so he wouldn't be able to ship until next week. I had asked him if he took paypal? If he had any live arrival guarantee and for some of his personal info (full name, phone number, email, physical address).

All he told me was he took paypal, shipped fedex, gave me his full name and address but said he had no phone number and and asked me to let him know if I was finally interested otherwise somebody else was interested in them.

I told him I was definitely interested, told him shipping later would be fine but would have to be coordinated with my roommate as I'm out of town also, asked for his paypal info and his email address in case there are any issues with the package.

I'm also still very weary of this guy and so is Harald so he's asked me to forward his personal info so he can look into whether he's legit or not. I'll let you know what I find out and whether I end up taking the chance or not.


Juan


I sent (04-07-2009, 01:29 PM):

Oh yes another thing I found kinda weird is he told me his name is Jack Temple but on his profile info he has Jack F. K. (JFK) so I don't know.

He sent (04-07-2009, 04:59 PM):

Somethings fishy... At 12:38 he pm'd me saying they were reserved for me and he would contact me when he was back from his trip... He said to pay in some days. Whatever that means. I don't think I trust this guy. Dustin

I sent (04-07-2009, 05:12 PM):

Holy crap this guy is full of shit. he told me the same thing about paying in a few days. I'll froward you his last pm to me so you can see.

I sent (04-07-2009, 05:20 PM):

Quote:
Originally Posted by triops34
Quote:
Originally Posted by JG1153
Quote:
Originally Posted by triops34
Quote:
Originally Posted by JG1153
So like I was asking:
Do you take paypal?
what if any is your live arrival guarantee?
what are your terms of sale?
can I have your full name, address, and phone number/email or whatever contact info you have (I would like to talk to you before going through with the transaction)?


Sorry but you can never be too careful these days. Thanks for your time.

Juan

Hello Juan,
I accept Paypal, and I send via Fedex overnight. I can send the animals next week, because this week I have to do a trip. I have not telephone, sorry.
My name is Jack Temple, and my address is
901 Maple St, Lisbon, ND 58054
Let me know if you are finally interesed in these snakes, other guy from a near city is too interesed and he is waiting my answer
Greetings

Well I am definitely interested jack. shipping later is not a problem in fact that was one of the things I wanted to discuss with you. I'm also out of town at the moment for work and will remain out of town for some time. My friend is the one who receives new animals for me and takes care of my collection while I'm out. the only thing is due to his work schedule his only days off are Mondays and Tuesdays so shipping would have to be coordinated with him for you to ship on a Monday to receive on Tuesday. Let me know if this is ok with you? if this is alright then send me your paypal account so I can transfer the funds. Also it's cool if you don't have a phone number but do you have an email address. you never know shipments get delayed, lost, etc. in which case I would need to get a hold of you and if I have something more than just this forum then in such a situation it would make it easier to contact you.

Oh yeah do you have any kind of live arrival guarantee.Thanks.

Juan.
Hi Juan,
my paypal account is [email protected], but don'tmake the payment for the moment, this week I'll be travelling and I suposse that I come back on Saturday. Them I contact you again, If you make the payment this saturday or Sunday I can send the snakes on Monday, are you agree?
You can contact with me in the same email addres
let me know the addres to send the snakes, please.
If animals arrive in bad conditions I give the half of the payment back, are you agree? I have sent and received snakes before and I had never problems, they are hard animals
Greetings, jack


What's up with this retard? I'll let Harald know about this. perhaps we should expose him by posting a bad guy thread on his ass and posting this info on his ad so anyone looking at his ad will immediately see he's trying to pull a scam.

Juan



He sent (04-07-2009, 05:43 PM):

That sounds good to me. As you can see I'm new to the site but will do what I can. Thanks for the heads up in the first place, otherwise we may not have found this out before it was too late. How do I send his replies to you? I want you to read them. Dustin

I sent (04-07-2009, 06:03 PM):

Yeah no problem, and likewise thanks for letting me know. To send me his replies just click on forward at the bottom of the PM and type my user id (JG1153) at the top and yo should be able to send them over.

Juan


He sent (04-07-2009, 09:00 PM):

Quote:
Originally Posted by triops34
Hi Dustin, this week I have to do a trip, I'll send the snakes to you via overnight next week, wait some days to pay. They are reserved for you. I'll contact you when I arrive home again.
Greetings, jack


He sent (04-07-2009, 09:01 PM):

Quote:
Originally Posted by triops34
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddodge
If they're not taken I would love this trio. I am very exp. with hogs. I can paypal you right now. Hope I'm lucky, Dustin

Ok, they are for you, where are you from?



I sent (04-07-2009, 07:54 PM):

I went ahead and posted the situation regarding this guy on the BOI on this site (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...331#post695331). I'll post the PMs I have, you should do the same. Thanks

Juan
 
I went ahead and notified triops34 about this thread. Here's what I sent him:

care to comment?

Hi jack or whoever you really are. I went ahead and posted a thread about you and the way you do business on the BOI here on Fauna and some really interesting information has come to light. I was wondering if you'd like to post onto the thread in order to defend yourself and maybe clear this whole thing up. It would be in your favor considering there's a lot of people looking at the thread thinking you're nothing but a scammer. Here's the URL for the thread (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=130602) Thanks.

Juan


There's also quite a bit of very interesting info regarding this situation that was sent to me from another Fauna member but he's asked me not to "let the cat out of the bag" yet and I told him I wouldn't. So I'll contact him and see if he wants to post the info or he wants me to, but after seeing that info this is definitely not some kind of misunderstanding. This guy is definitely up to no good.
 
Here's the rest of the info for anyone interested.
this is the PM I received form Charles Shanklin:

JFK
Email me at [email protected]

I have an email from him but his address that he sent it from is [email protected]

Don't let the cat out of the bag yet because I want to see how far it goes. Thanks Charlie


These are the emails I received from Charlie:

Fwd: hognoses‏
From: Charles Shanklin ([email protected])
Sent: Wed 4/08/09 4:19 PM
To: [email protected] ([email protected])
Here is what he has said so far. I like to play dumb when it comes to these people.

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>
Date: April 8, 2009 11:57:53 AM EDT
To: filemar thurst <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: hognoses
Thanks for the update. My cell is 561-722-6565 of you want to give me a call later so we can work something out. Thanks charlie.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:55 AM, filemar thurst <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't have now my camera (camera + water = disaster, big
disaster...), but I have one pic taken one week ago of both females
together. I have to search the photo in my pc, later I'll send to you.

2009/4/8, Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>:

Awsome! Have they bred before? And can I get a group photo of them? I would
really like to add some more hognoses to my collection. Thank again
Charlie.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:45 AM, filemar thurst <[email protected]> wrote:

in grams are aprox 125 grams male, 250 grams big female and 175 grams
small female

2009/4/8, Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>:

Do you have them in gram wieghts?

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:26 AM, filemar thurst <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello, the weights are 4.4oz male, 6.3oz small female and 9oz big female



Second email:

Fwd: hognoses‏
From: Charles Shanklin ([email protected])
Sent: Wed 4/08/09 7:08 PM
To: [email protected] ([email protected])
1 attachment
females h...jpg (229.6 KB)


Here is his latest. He rights greetings like some people I know in Germany.

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: filemar thurst <[email protected]>
Date: April 8, 2009 3:00:29 PM EDT
To: Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: hognoses
Hi Charles, here you have the pic.
Sorry, I dont have telephone.
Greetings

Fw: hognoses‏
From: Charles Shanklin ([email protected])
Sent: Wed 4/08/09 11:04 PM
To: [email protected]
I haven't heard back from him after I asked for references. He was very quick to respond before.

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>
To: filemar thurst <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 5:20:57 PM
Subject: Re: hognoses
OK, it sounds good but before I make a payment could you give me a list of references? You can never be to safe with online purchases.

________________________________________
From: filemar thurst <[email protected]>
To: Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 4:56:26 PM
Subject: Re: hognoses

Not, no more snakes for the moment, sorry
If in the future you buy to me more snakes I'll do reduced price or
free shipping cost

2009/4/8, Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>:
>
> Do you have any other snakes available at the moment just incase I want to
> get some more and not pay shipping twice?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 4:23 PM, filemar thurst <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> no, I had problems in the past with this metod, I prefer paypal, is
> more rapid and sure
>
> 2009/4/8, Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>:
>
> You don't do postal money orders?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:39 PM, filemar thurst <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Payment should be by paypal, for the moment I have no more available,
> when I have more I'll let you know.
>
>
> 2009/4/8, Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>:
> How do you take payment? Do you have any others available or soon to be
> available?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: filemar thurst <[email protected]>
> To: Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 3:17:19 PM
> Subject: Re: hognoses
>
> I'm from Lisbon, Nort Dakota, Hognoses are very hard snakes, I'll
> include a heating pad inside the box.
> Big female bred last year, she laid 8 eggs.
> I bought small female last summer, she hasn't breed in my terraiums
> for the moment.
>
> 2009/4/8, Charles Shanklin <[email protected]>:
>
> Where are you located so I know how the weather will be for shipping?
> Have
> they bred for you yet this year or ever?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:00 PM, filemar thurst <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Charles, here you have the pic.
> Sorry, I dont have telephone.
> Greetings
> <females heterodon.jpg>
 
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