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Please, please, pretty please can we get one more available slot of karma per 24 hour period. I BEG OF YOU :eek:

On a serious note, two just doesn't get the job done for me. I like to reward those that spearhead the scammer brigade and it's often more than one person that helps. I know, I can wait until the next day, but sometimes there are three or four new bad guy threads by then.

Basically, it's kind of difficult for active and frequent users to show their appreciation as much as I would like.

I believe there was an abuse issue a while back which reduced the amount of karma points given, which I understand completely, but restricting the amount of uses per day restricts the amount of people that could benefit, not just the amount received ... if that makes sense.

Maybe I'm the only Karma Queen here, but it's one of the many great uses of this site that I enjoy. Since the decrease, many GOOD and USEFUL new members aren't awarded the same benefit that many have already indulged in when the amount was really high. I don't really care because I'm already maxed, but there are good new members that deserve more, but there isn't enough to go around.

Thanks. :thumbsup:
 
I definitely agree with Nick on this one!!

We need more Karma uses.

I often have to skip giving karma to a very good post because I've run out.

And I don't use my karma to curry favor among friends...just to reward or smack down a deserving post.

About 98 percent of my karma goes to very intelligent posts with pertinent info.

I only smack down for repeated idiocy. I usually just slap the offensive posters on my Ignore This Loser list.
 
Well, the reason for the reduced number of available karma grants was because I wanted people to heavily weigh the worthiness of granting their limited kara "attaboys" or "slap downs". The hope is that people will tend to reserve those karma incidents to more of the "attaboys" rather than the "slap downs" because of this restriction.

I do wish the system had been designed such that I could set separate limits on the PLUS and MINUS karma grants, but such is not the case. So I have to do it this way.....

Sorry, but some people are TOO free and easy with the negative karma, and it just tends to get people riled up unnecessarily. This was a compromise between having NO negative karma capability, and having a larger number of them available to use.
 
Is it not possible to get maybe 1 or 2 more per day? Please?

How many was in effect before? I never paid attention to how many I could give, I just gave to the ones deserving.
 
That is exactly the reason I limited it to only two (2). I WANT people to really make it count. It has much more value that way.
 
WebSlave said:
That is exactly the reason I limited it to only two (2). I WANT people to really make it count. It has much more value that way.
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I know your the boss and make the final decision, but don't you think the only way to make the 2 karma limit work would be to start everyone over? Just zap it, reset all karma points. I mean, getting karma to some people is half the fun of fauna, including myself, now that there is a 2 a day limit it will take all new people forever to get up there in karma points. Seems kinda unfair.
 
I sometimes wish we could do 3 or 4 a day too sometimes (I try to remember to go back the next day to get the ones I couldn't but I don't always remember) but it is what it is and...

mxracer4life said:
I know your the boss and make the final decision,
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the boss has spoken
:yesnod:
:D
 
mxracer4life said:
I know your the boss and make the final decision, but don't you think the only way to make the 2 karma limit work would be to start everyone over? Just zap it, reset all karma points. I mean, getting karma to some people is half the fun of fauna, including myself, now that there is a 2 a day limit it will take all new people forever to get up there in karma points. Seems kinda unfair.
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It's been this way for quite a while now. And yes, at one point all of the karma points were reset back to zero. The reason I had to cut back on the numbers was because it was getting out of hand. I have to do this on CornSnakes.com sometime as the numbers have gotten SO big that they don't even mean anything any longer. One of my moderators over there has a karma level of "10,959,838" with a karma power of "109,663". :shrug01:
 
AbsoluteApril said:
the boss has spoken
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While true dat, I do not remember there ever being a time where there was total silence after that happened.
And as long as one is courteous, I see additional comment as additional participation.

So:D

mxracer4life said:
I know your the boss and make the final decision, but don't you think the only way to make the 2 karma limit work would be to start everyone over? Just zap it, reset all karma points. I mean, getting karma to some people is half the fun of fauna, including myself, now that there is a 2 a day limit it will take all new people forever to get up there in karma points. Seems kinda unfair.
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I agree here, it may be time to level the field again. In my opinion, any good group needs a combination of new people and old people. Let's give the new people a boost up, they will be the leaders some day.
 
mxracer4life said:
don't you think the only way to make the 2 karma limit work would be to start everyone over? Just zap it, reset all karma points.
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The current limit, as Rich stated, has been around for a while; and karma was reset not that awful long ago (at least it doesn't seem like that long ago - maybe 2 yrs?). If Karma has to be continually reset to accommodate new members, why bother having it - at least in the capacity of a running score?
 
hhmoore said:
The current limit, as Rich stated, has been around for a while; and karma was reset not that awful long ago (at least it doesn't seem like that long ago - maybe 2 yrs?). If Karma has to be continually reset to accommodate new members, why bother having it - at least in the capacity of a running score?
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I agree that resetting it multiple times, or continuously would be not only be a hassle but would make the karma system pointless. All I am saying is, if 2 points every 24 hours is going to be permanent, reset it at this point, only once, to level things out a bit and give the new people a chance to catch up.

But as I think about this more, if you did reset the points, left it at 2 a day, someone who signs up 2 years from now will have a long ways to go to catch up. So it would be kinda pointless to reset the system now. I now see your point. But like others said, even if you are very careful in selecting who gets your 2 karma points a day, it still isn't enough. 4 a day would be the perfect number in my opinion.
 
Remember when the karma power got reduced last summer?
That one wasn't a total reset (I know those have happened 2-3 times since I started here), but it did sort of level the playing field a bit.
 
hhmoore said:
Remember when the karma power got reduced last summer?
That one wasn't a total reset (I know those have happened 2-3 times since I started here), but it did sort of level the playing field a bit.
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Not to a degree that makes a difference. If someone earned 100 good karma hits, went rogue and deserved negative karma, it would take (just a guess) 1000 bad karma hits now to break even with the 100 good hits.

On the other side, I don't know why I am even sticking up for them, but fair is fair. Look at the members with the highest ranking negative karma. I'm a believer that people can change their ways and turn the tides, however, those with a 100 negative hits, will now need 1000 positives to break even.

Now the people with tons of positive karma won't even get scratched by a negative hit, but the same goes for those deeply in neg karma before the change. Any positive changes will be hindered, in a way, making it harder for bad guys to become good guys again.

With such low amount of karma to be awarded now, we have pretty much become stuck in time.
 
Not really. The effect of a hit - positive or negative - is relative to the person pushing the button. In the event of a negative, only half of the giver's rep power is deducted from the recipients karma "score"; whereas, for a positive, the recipient get's the full number of points added.
According to my User CP, I have 9944 karma points. My rep power is 47. If I give you positive karma, it will add 47 points to your total....if I give you negative, it will only take away 24 (I rounded up - not sure if the system would do 23 or 24). One person with a karma power of 24, or higher, could negate a negative that I give.
 
hhmoore said:
Not really. The effect of a hit - positive or negative - is relative to the person pushing the button. In the event of a negative, only half of the giver's rep power is deducted from the recipients karma "score"; whereas, for a positive, the recipient get's the full number of points added.
According to my User CP, I have 9944 karma points. My rep power is 47. If I give you positive karma, it will add 47 points to your total....if I give you negative, it will only take away 24 (I rounded up - not sure if the system would do 23 or 24). One person with a karma power of 24, or higher, could negate a negative that I give.
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I honestly did not know it worked like this. I was focusing on the whole 2 karma a day problem when it really depends on WHO is giving you the karma.
 
That said, I suspect that in some cases, there is a form of abuse happening...because I would be willing to bet that a lot of people use negative karma for things other than "particularly bad posts". I will grant that the descriptor is highly subjective, and even that - when feuding - people's biases play a role; but I have seen a lot of pretty benign posts get negative karma. Then again, positive karma is also given out pretty freely by a lot of people, so :shrug01:
 
I like the idea of positive and negative consequences for good/bad posts. However I dont necessarily like that the weight of the karma given is dictated by how much the giver has. Like in my case for instance, I would really like to show which posts I like, but since I have no karma of my own, the karma I give is practically meaningless... and since each member is only allowed 2 karmas a day and there are so many posts here on a daily basis, I don't see my karma level rising any time in the near future. So I like the karma system, I just think it would be a little better if every members karma had the same weight and we each were able to give out say 4 or 5 a day. Just my $0.2 :)
 
EvergladesExotics said:
I like the idea of positive and negative consequences for good/bad posts. However I dont necessarily like that the weight of the karma given is dictated by how much the giver has. Like in my case for instance, I would really like to show which posts I like, but since I have no karma of my own, the karma I give is practically meaningless...
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But really...it seems like too many people are hung up on what their "total score" is, and not what the whole "giving karma" should really mean. It's a pat on the back, an "atta boy/girl"....or on the flip side, a smack upside the head when deserved.

I guess what I am trying to say Bridgette, is that even if the karma you give is "worthless" when it comes to a point value, it still would make me smile to see you thinking enough of my post to give me an "atta girl". So it wouldn't be "meaningless" at all, to me anyway. :) Does that make sense?
 
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