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Inquiry Katherine McBroom - Holly Michigan

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Hello all.

Has anyone had any experience with Katherine McBroom of Holly, Michigan? I had a check sent USPS priority mail to her. She cashed the check yesterday. The weird thing is that she road my ass getting it into her. However she did not reply to my message from yesterday confirming she got it. She did not reply to my second message with respect to shipping my dragon.

The dragon I purchased can be seen here: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255223

There is no listing for her in the white pages. No facebook profile. But I did find a bunch of complaints listed against her and/or her boyfriend-whatever on other things. To say I'm nervous about this sudden lack of response would be accurate. I've never had a sale go south like this before. Usually I get some sort of 'your payment has been received, thanks' message along with a discussion re: shipping plans.

Interested to see what if any experience others have had with her.

Thanks,
Mike Carter
 
I have sold to her and have bought from her with no problems on her part.

When did she receive your check. there is a lag time while the check is waiting to clear the bank. heat and high temps will also slow down a live animal shipment.

I hope she contacts you soon.
 
I have a copy of the check front and back, courtesy of BOA's online banking magic. It was cut from our company's bank account. It has her account number and drivers license number on it, so she did it in person at a teller. If the funds weren't available, they wouldn't have cashed it for her. But it's BOA's policy that if you deposit a check and they do a teller hold on the funds (which they did), then the funds are available in your account immediately. I hope everything is ok with her. Like I said, she was on me like white on rice to get the check to her. The least I would have expected is an "Hey I got your check... let's figure out shipping".

I just got curious and ran her on Google. Here's where I got nervous:

http://www.ak47.net/forums/t_8_39/4...y__See_EE_thread___INFO_REQUESTED.html/page=1

and

http://www.ak47.net/mobile/topic.html?b=7&f=109&t=849539

That's what's freaking me out here.
 
Keep in mind she does work and shipping late in the week on Thursday or Friday is something most will not do.

I think your safe with her, more than likely she is shipping Monday.she should contact you soon.:)
 
Hope for the best...

I heard from her last night:

"I received it yesterday afternoon.We will set up shipping for the beginning of the week.Thanks."

I replied back to her regarding the shipping being via Fed Ex. I'm in Louisiana. The temps are high. USPS does not guarantee next day delivery. And when USPS does show up with a next day package, it's usually around 5p. So the animal would basically bake.

I don't have a reply from her regarding shipping details and the like. I'd prefer to wait until the temps drop. But it's kind of hard to have a conversation with someone who takes 24 hours or more to respond.

I hope it works out. We'll see. It just doesn't pass the smell test of good business practices at all.
 
Ask her for her phone number. I hate doing business over the phone, but I refuse to do any business without a contact number in case of emergencies.

I would try to contact her ASAP. I've seen it all to many times where you will get an unexpected email saying "She went out tonight and will be there tomorrow!" and it's 110 degrees for the next week.
 
Phone Number

Ok good idea. I'll drop her a message now. Thanks :) I saw a post yesterday about a tortise that was shipped UPS ground and ended up DOA. (Different seller of course, NOT Katherine) I just want this thing to be smooth and have the animal arrive in good shape. Would hate for something to go wrong.
 
I've Had It. This Stinks

I got a one line response from this person after 3 messages. I sent another today requesting her phone number, method of shipping, etc. As usual, no ******** response. Sorry, but I demanded a refund. Here's my note to her:

"Katherine,

Look. You hounded me on a daily basis about that check. You get the check and I get a bunch of freaking silence. I found things on the internet in your name. I'm not comfortable. Just post my money back to me Monday. Deduct the 10.00 USPS is going to charge you to send it priority mail with a delivery confirmation. I've never had a legit breeder act like this before. And the bottom line is that I'm not about to start to trust the quality of the dragon. If this is how you handle your business, I have serious misgivings about the way you handle your animals. I don't even want to take the chance at this point.

Michael Carter"

I've :censored: had enough of this. When the woman wanted that 150.00 check she blew up my PMs on a daily basis and then she can't reply to emails or deign to have a conversation about the shipping of the animal? I don't think so. There are internet scam complaints about her and her boyfriend all over the place. I've posted some of the links above. This stinks of a scam. I don't even want the dragon from her at this point.

Like I said in my message... if this is the way she treats humans, I don't want to see what she does to a dragon. :censored: :censored: God.
 
Contacted Her Local Police Department

Her local police department was contacted. The officer I spoke with was already familiar with this person and her boyfriend. He said it's most likely that he has been the one I have been communicating with. She "just" cashes the checks. They have had contact with them regarding a couple of different "issues". It was resolved that if I do not have a dragon in my hands at 10:30a via Fed Ex on Tuesday morning that I'm to call them back, file a complaint for theft/fraud with them, and then one at the USPS for mail fraud.

I've dealt with a number of reputable, established dealers here. I'm not going to mention their names here, because I don't want them associated with these posts. But in all cases, they have been quick to respond, gave a damn about their animals, and were a joy to deal with.

I currently am working on getting three animals here. Two by private sellers, one with another well established breeder. It's ironic that the two I'm dealing with who are not established breeders are difficult, at best, to deal with. One wants to ship from New Mexico in 100 degree heat without cool packs to New Orleans "because it's cool at night". What this one doesn't understand is that New Orleans and USPS overnight don't work. They don't deliver until after 4pm. They never get here 'next day'. And if that happens, the dragon is cooked. Stay tuned for the outcome to that pending nightmare. The other is this idiot Katherine McBroom who forgot how to turn on her computer.

The dealer? Actually asked about the temps here locally, will only ship Fed Ex, and has agreed to cool pack the animal if it's right on the edge.

Lesson learned. If they aren't a breeder, aren't established, and have absolutely no reputation, I'm not dealing with them. At least I'm only loosing a few hundred dollars as opposed to thousands I guess. But it doesn't lessen the sting of dealing with this that's for sure.

All I'm trying to do is build my white and citrus breeding lines out with some new fresh genetics. This past week on fauna has been pretty disheartening that's for sure.
 
I would give her til monday to atleast reply. I know her cashing the check and not replying looks shady but its only been a few days..
 
Serafim said:
I would give her til monday to atleast reply. I know her cashing the check and not replying looks shady but its only been a few days..
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Your right, it's only been since Thursday since the check has been cashed. logical thinking would put shipping early in the week IF the temps are in a safe range.

I don't think a BOI thread was warranted here.not yet anyway.
 
Lesson learned. If they aren't a breeder, aren't established, and have absolutely no reputation, I'm not dealing with them. At least I'm only loosing a few hundred dollars as opposed to thousands I guess. But it doesn't lessen the sting of dealing with this that's for sure.

All I'm trying to do is build my white and citrus breeding lines out with some new fresh genetics. This past week on fauna has been pretty disheartening that's for sure.
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Although I'm sure that you're extremely frustrated with this whole situation, please know that not all small breeders on here are like this- there are many that treat both their customers and animals well. :)
 
Really?!

1) It was Wednesday when she cashed the check.

2) She/He hounded me daily until that check was received.

3) Then she/he refused to communicate, provide a phone number, and set up shipping.

4) This thread opened as an inquiry Ed. And if you don't :censored: like it, then don't get involved big shooter.

5) Katherine McBroom and company has an established history of internet fraud.

5) The police are aware of her from her's and her boyfriend's past activity.

6) She is non-responsive to any messages sent.

7) Charges will be filed Tuesday morning with her local police department if my dragon isn't here.

At the best, she is the world's :censored: dealer. At worst, a scammer. Based upon complaints against her in the past, I'm starting to side with the later, not the former. And if anyone reading this thinks I'm jumping the gun... then YOU step in and buy her dragon.
 
Ok, am I missing something? I did a google search on Katherine McBroom - Holly Michigan and got this http://www.mylife.com/c-1648723547:shrug01: Those other threads are of another person in the same city.

I'm not saying they're the same person or not as no email address is posted, but, going by the threads that you linked on this one, there is a lot of info right here on them.
 
BeardedDragonStore said:
1) It was Wednesday when she cashed the check.

2) She/He hounded me daily until that check was received.

3) Then she/he refused to communicate, provide a phone number, and set up shipping.

4) This thread opened as an inquiry Ed. And if you don't :censored: like it, then don't get involved big shooter.

5) Katherine McBroom and company has an established history of internet fraud.

5) The police are aware of her from her's and her boyfriend's past activity.

6) She is non-responsive to any messages sent.

7) Charges will be filed Tuesday morning with her local police department if my dragon isn't here.

At the best, she is the world's :censored: dealer. At worst, a scammer. Based upon complaints against her in the past, I'm starting to side with the later, not the former. And if anyone reading this thinks I'm jumping the gun... then YOU step in and buy her dragon.
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Michael, you jumped the gun on this BOI thread.

She cashed your check on Wednesday... you started this thread on Thursday, seems like it was because she didn't contact you as fast as you wanted.

You posted 2 links that have nothing to do with Katherine Mc Broom, they could be a boy friend or someone else. you have labeled Katherine a scammer that is involved in internet fraud. I don't see it at all.

She posted a few dragons for sale this past week, I bought the sub adult female orange translucent, she arrived fat and healthy on Thursday. does that sound like a scammer? I have sold dragons to her a few different times with no problems.

Michael please post all the info saying Katherine is a scammer and is involved in any internet fraud.

You jumped the gun big time with this thread.:yesnod:

:eek:Big shooter?
 
There is no issue here.You said you sent the check on July 25th and you didn't send it until august 1st.I wrote you on august 4th and said I received the check and would get back to you to set up shipping for the beginning of the week.It is the beginning of the week now and I need to know what day you want her shipped.You jumped to conclusions for no reason and you were not hounded about the check.Look through you pm's and tell me where you were hounded.You were asked if the check was sent and you said it was,but it actually wasn't sent until august 1st.I am holding up my end of the bargain.
 
Ed Clark said:
Your right, it's only been since Thursday since the check has been cashed. logical thinking would put shipping early in the week IF the temps are in a safe range.

I don't think a BOI thread was warranted here.not yet anyway.
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Thanks Ed. I wrote him on the 4th and told him I received the check and would get back with him to set up shipping for the beginning of the week. I never ship on thursdays,only monday thru wednesday.I then left town thursday afternoon for a family issue.I just got home a little bit ago and found all of this on here. I didn't complain about him telling me he sent the check on the 25th of july when he didn't send it until august 1st,and I didn't hound him. I wrote him on july 27th asking if he sent payment and he said he did.Then I let him know on two other occasions the I had not received the check.And yes,my bank did put a hold on the check. I don't feel I did anything wrong and I feel that this thread was not needed.He jumped the gun and accusing me of other things is just ridiculous! I will send the dragon to him this week if he get's back to me and let's me know when he will be home to receive it.
 
BeardedDragonStore said:
Hello all.

Has anyone had any experience with Katherine McBroom of Holly, Michigan? I had a check sent USPS priority mail to her. She cashed the check yesterday. The weird thing is that she road my ass getting it into her. However she did not reply to my message from yesterday confirming she got it. She did not reply to my second message with respect to shipping my dragon.

The dragon I purchased can be seen here: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255223

There is no listing for her in the white pages. No facebook profile. But I did find a bunch of complaints listed against her and/or her boyfriend-whatever on other things. To say I'm nervous about this sudden lack of response would be accurate. I've never had a sale go south like this before. Usually I get some sort of 'your payment has been received, thanks' message along with a discussion re: shipping plans.

Interested to see what if any experience others have had with her.

Thanks,
Mike Carter
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Please show the people that are reading this thread the pm's from me that make you say I road your ass about getting the check. That is not true and I would like you to retract that and retract this: 5) Katherine McBroom and company has an established history of internet fraud. I have never commited any kind of fraud!
 
Michael Carter/BeardeDragonStore seems to have made a good case for him self as someone to not do business with, a little patience on his part would have gone a long way towards him having a good transaction.

The names and label he put on Kasey were unwarranted and uncalled for. sometimes people don't understand calling someone a scammer or something to that effect is read by thousands and has a severe adverse effect on a persons reputation and business even if it is not true.

I hope shipping goes well and Mike gets what he has paid for. :)
 
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