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[email protected] proposed a Trade with me. I read the Post on him on here and I decided to give him a Try! He proposed to send me 1.1 Caramel Ball Pythons and I would order.. http://www.amamax.com/innvidgefmx41.html And hold the shipment until I received the snakes!

This all took place on Wed Feb 6th. He was supposed to ship the snakes out Thur Feb 7th for delivery Fri Feb 8th. Thursday Night he contacted me.. Here's the E-mail that he sent to me..



Subj: Re: Tracking #
Date: 2/6/03 11:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: KCannL85
To: Cathy99471


fed ex messed up and made it 2 day shipping.. ic ant change it but it will be ther esat and it is on their way

my friend shipped uit andi have a feelign he did it semi wrong.. if anythign goes bad ill have to ship to u myself..


fed ex
tracking:791530393017

Well.. I had told him that I needed them sent here for Friday Delivery due to the fact that Fed Ex Does not deliver to my area on Sat and that I was going away for the weekend and noone would be here to receive the package if it did arrive on Sat!

He told me that he couldn't change it. Well.. My other half was nice enough to wait at the house Saturday until around 5:30 and No package arrived.

Sunday Night he contacted me to ask where his tracking # for his program was.. I clearly told him that I would not continue the order until I had two Live Carmel Ball Pythons in my possesion...

Here is that conversation.


Subj: (no subject)
Date: 2/10/03 1:59:20 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: Cathy99471
To: Cathy99471


Cathy99471: Hello... I don't know where you can come off saying I am ripping you off... I don't have a package in my possesion... I will order your stuff and have it sent OVERNIGHT if I receive two Live and Healthy Snakes tomorrow... As of right now.. the order is on Hold!
KCannL85: u got a tracking #
KCannL85: u know i shipped
KCannL85: how is it covering u to cancel
Cathy99471: YES.. But I don't have any Live Snakes and more then likely they won't be Alive when I receive them.!!
KCannL85: fedex told me
KCannL85: that u even signed for them
Cathy99471: EXCUSE ME... THen Fed Ex is LYING... If you track the Package then you will see that it is currently at the Jacksonville place
KCannL85: why woudl they lie to me
KCannL85: i hate them
KCannL85: they messed me up so much
KCannL85: imsorry for the tude
KCannL85: i really am
KCannL85: u can just canel the order
KCannL85: fedex screwed me
KCannL85: no other way to look at it
Cathy99471: I don't know but they obviously did.. If the snakes arrive alive then I will send the order tomorrow for Tues Delivery.. If not then we can work something else out... I just don't enjoy being called a Liar either
KCannL85: yea
KCannL85: hey
KCannL85: r u busy?
KCannL85: im so bored
Cathy99471: I was about ready to sign off .. what do you need?
KCannL85: nothing just bored
KCannL85: what is the trackign # i lost it
KCannL85: the snakes might be fine if it is warm there
Cathy99471: 791530393017... It's down in the 30s


I received the snakes late Monday Evening and upon opening the box Discovered two DEAD NORMAL Ball Pythons!! I then Cancelled the order and contacted [email protected] and told him that I canceled the order and told him that I didn't appreciate him trying to Rip Me off like he did... He then demanded that I send him the shipping money for the Snakes which he says came out to $50... I did a search for Fed Ex Rates and with the size, weight, and destination and time of delivery he didn't pay anymore the $17-$20 to ship them.

I have all the Conversations and E-mails back and forth on this .. they are too long to post them all on here so if anyone would like to see them contact me either at [email protected] or at [email protected]

I also have a picture that he sent to me of a Carmel Ball Python that he supposedly had and was going to send and the picture of the two snakes that he did send to me!

This is just a warning to anyone that plans on dealing with [email protected]... Name: Casey Caudill
Address: 44833 ERIK PASS
Plymouth, MI 48170 Phone #: (734) 223-5680

I was smart enough not to Order and have the program sent to him first... I hope anyone else that decides to deal with him has the same common sense!

Here are the pictures that I have!

Catharine Smith
 

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The picture in the original Post is the one that he sent me to show me one of the Pythons that I would be getting... Here are the Two Ball Pythons that I received...

Catharine Smith
 

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Cathy.... Good for you!.... I guess I taught you well, grasshopper.... lol
Just reading his emails (I think it was English???), would have sent red flags flying!!....
I'm glad you didn't get scammed, it's just too bad the balls had to suffer.... kinda wish they could trade places, huh??

....Neil
 
Yes Neil.. You taught me Well!!!! His E-mails did send up Red Flags and that's why I decided to go ahead with the trade! Just to see what kind of person this really was! Ends up he is not a Good Guy at all and may turn out to be a Real Scammer! It's just nice that I had complete control of the situation throughout the whole deal! I feel really bad for the poor Snakes seeing as they suffered for four days in the box with very little heat.. HE used a Hot/Cold EVS Sports Protection Belt type thing for Heat when I specifically told him to go to a Sporting Goods Store and purchase The Heat Source 35+ Disposable Heat Packs. I'm just glad I didn't get Screwed on this one!

Catharine Smith
 
Cathy,
Just out of curiousity, was the trade just for the software/computer stuff? or were you adding cash to the deal?
Dont know what kind of game this doofus is playing, but GOOD FOR YOU! for not getting scammed.
Have you hd any type of contact with this clown after you received the dead normal balls ?
 
~first pic...

~Actually the photo he sent you looks like an altered one. A little tone enhancement here, and a little color change there....

~If you look at the grass, the color is not quite normal. If that is even his own photo.

~That is too sad about the snakes that were shipped. Better give that guy a magazine rack...cause he's got ISSUES!!!
 
Caudill, Larry
44833 Erik Pass
PLYMOUTH, MI 48170
734-459-7538

Above info found on www.anywho.com

Maybe someone should call daddy and let him know what his kid is doing !?!
Hows about it Ritchie ???
 
Yes.. I contacted him after I received the Dead Pythons.. This is what he had to say!!



Subj: (no subject)
Date: 2/10/03 7:17:53 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Cathy99471
To: Cathy99471


KCannL85: hi
Cathy99471: I am VERY UPSET!!!!!!!
KCannL85: y?
KCannL85: hello?
Cathy99471: You tried to Con me.. YOu sent me two Normal Ball Pythons!!! Why else would you think I'd be upset
KCannL85: ae they alive
KCannL85: i didnt try to con u
KCannL85: those are carmel
KCannL85: ok are they alive!?!?!
Cathy99471: NO.. they are Not alive and they are NOT CARMEL!!!!!!!!
KCannL85: they arent alive?
Cathy99471: NO.. Not being in a box for four Days
KCannL85: what is my trackign #?
Cathy99471: Are you CRAZY!!!!!!! I Cancelled the order!! I told you yesterday and have it documented that I had the order on Hold and if I didn't have two Live Snakes today that I would cancel the order and I did that
KCannL85: well u cant canel
KCannL85: i had to pay fopr shipping
KCannL85: u have to atleast give m e50.00 for hsipping
KCannL85: i spent money i didnt even have on u
Cathy99471: I don't have to pay you a cent!!!! YOu Guaranteed that I would have two Carmel Ball Pythons and I didn't get Two Carmel Ball Pythons.. I received two DEAD NORMAL Ball Pythons
KCannL85: great.
KCannL85: well
KCannL85: youll be hearign from ym lawyer


Anything Else needed... Anymore questions you have to ask me about him.. feel free to ask away.. I have everything documented and saved to disk.. just in case his lawyar does contact me :)

Catharine Smith
 
Sick!

Catharine,

Thanks for the head-up. There are no words to describe what this individual did to those animals. By his messages alone you can tell he is not thinking straight. More than a kid it seems like a disturbed mind.

youll be hearign from ym lawyer

I would rather hear from his shrink. Sad. :(
 
cathys said:
.. I have everything documented and saved to disk.. just in case his lawyar does contact me :)

Catharine, Among the things that he doesn't have:

1.) A Lawyer
2.) Brains
3.) Pubic hair

Joe Monahan
 
Lesson Learned!!

Thanks everyone who has responded to this thread and to those who have E-mailed Casey.. He apoligized and wants to make it up to me... Here is his statement...

KCannL85: whois ritchie
KCannL85: anyways
KCannL85: he seems mad
KCannL85: and udidnt loose any money
Cathy99471: What do you mean who is Ritchie?
KCannL85: i got an email
KCannL85: from
KCannL85: ritchie
KCannL85: saying i am a stpuid kid ect/
Cathy99471: FaunaClassifieds Forums - [email protected] WARNING!

Something I posted just to warn people about this.. I know I am not out any money but I don't appreciate the way you handled this whole thing!!
Cathy99471: That picture you sent of the Carmel Ball Python wasn't yours!!!!!!!!! It was a modified picture from someone else's web site wasn't it?
KCannL85: who is Ritchie Luna

KCannL85: i sent u a pic
KCannL85: i dont have dig cam
Cathy99471: You sent me a Pic!! Yes.. and I know you don't have a Digital Camera.. You Lied throughout this whole thing and I am not happy about it..
KCannL85: i want to know how these people r
KCannL85: who r emailing me
Cathy99471: Check out the link I just gave you
Cathy99471: FaunaClassifieds Forums - [email protected] WARNING!
KCannL85: so u put me on internet?
KCannL85: that is great
KCannL85: take that post off
KCannL85: and tell ur friends to leave me alone
KCannL85: u didnt loose any money
KCannL85: i did
KCannL85: so how obut we dont tlak
Cathy99471: You may be out Money but you deserve it for Lying and trying to Cheat someone
KCannL85: ok listen
KCannL85: have ur friends leave me alone
KCannL85: and ill elave ua lone ok?
Cathy99471: Have you learned your lesson?
KCannL85: sue have
KCannL85: sure have(
KCannL85: and i oweu
KCannL85: take the post off
KCannL85: please
Cathy99471: I will tell them to leave you alone but I would be careful with who you deal with in the future! I'm sorry this turned out the way it did.
KCannL85: yea me2
KCannL85: i got ur address
KCannL85: maybe ills hip 2 reg balls
KCannL85: if uw ant?
KCannL85: alive ones
KCannL85: free
Cathy99471: That's Up to you.. I will post on there not to E-mail you.. that you are working this out with me and everything is OK.. I just feel sorry for the ones that didn't make it.. Deal?
KCannL85: deal
KCannL85: stay in contact though


so you guys can stop E-mailing him.. He's learned his Lesson and won't be doing it again.. I can almost Guarantee that.. He didn't even know this board was here!

Catharine Smith
 
What an incredible loser! I'm really amazed he can actually turn his computer on in order to communicate with you! Perhaps someone is helping him with that?!?!?

I actually feel somewhat sorry for the kid. :(
 
I feel sorry for him too but I feel even worse for any Animal that may be in his care if his shipping methods are like they are!! At least I got him to admit that he lied and tried to cheat me.. Most of the people that have ever dealt with me know that I am as honest as can be when I sell something and If they are not satisfied I will refund the cost or take the animal back! I just thought I would warn People to be very Careful if you ever decide to deal with him! He's not all there.

Catharine Smith
 
I want to thank several of you for allowing me to give the new warning system a bit of a workout on this thread. MANY statements made in this thread were unnecessary. I am serious about reducing the impression that people are jumped on here on the BOI for almost any reason. This was one of the primary reasons for putting the warning system in place.

Please don't take offense at it, and consider that the points assessed ARE just a warning to be careful about how you post here.

No hard feelings, I hope, but a lot of you got nailed on this one.
 
Catharine, That is really great you won in this deal but so did the kid !! no one will ever know he did this because you did not put his name in the subject line when this post hits the file cabnets it will stay there unless someone does a search for his e-mail, no one will ever know about this kid. so good job you gave him a break and someone else can fall for his tricks down the road. what good does it do to post bad about someone when it gets washed away.
Jim Scharphorn
 
Jim,

You can find this thread by searching his email address OR his name. Even though it's not in the header, his name is given in one of Catharine's posts, so if someone searches for his name it pops up.
 
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