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Keith Northrop (Chameleon Counters) Good Guy

Jim are you really that Dim??? Never mind don't answer figured it out from you above post .. Yep...Randy
 
Wow, your that simple minded huh? Think about it, many people with be a "jerk" to people such as yourself. It's not them, it's you. As for scamming, Kieth has yet to scam anyone in the reptile business. His store has been there for about 5 years with an online selection, he's shipped out plenty of orders, yet nothing but postive responses, hmmmm...sure does sound like a scammer.

ravensgait said:
We have Justyn saying that Keith is a jerk but he(Justyn) is also a jerk . Then Trevor not caring what Keith has done in the past so wouldn't matter to him that Keith or Chris Johnson or anyone for that matter had burned their last 50 customers as long as he didn't get burned
 
ravensgait said:
Then Trevor not caring what Keith has done in the past so wouldn't matter to him that Keith or Chris Johnson or anyone for that matter had burned their last 50 customers as long as he didn't get burned they are just fine and dandy in his book.

What customers did Keith burn? I have never seen anything like that. Maybe I missed it somewhere. Got a link?
 
"Hardware .... We need the recto-cranium extraction kit to the BOI Counter ..... yes, that would be the two crowbars and a plunger ....... and some WD40, this one's been stuck for a while. Thank You."
 
Randy,

Please answer Sammy,

"What customers did Keith burn? I have never seen anything like that. Maybe I missed it somewhere. Got a link?"

Answer to me and everyone here also, I'd like to see the proof!

Randal
 
Guys, read it...don't twist it. Neither Randy nor anyone else called Keith a scammer. Randy offerred an analogy to illustrate the unfortunate tendency of some to deal with disreputable people based on the fact that their personal deals went well. While I agree that Keith has traveled way beyond the level of jerk, I too have heard nothing bad about either his animals or customer service. Would i deal with him?.....absolutely not. Just because he has not scammed anyone in this industry does not make him worthy of trust. I'm sorry if it offends anyone here but the fact that he is a convicted thief outside our industry pretty much deletes him from my good guy file. His continued threats of identity theft are not the slightest bit amusing. Those too would prevent me from ever dealing with him.

It astonishes me when i see so many folk on this and other threads defending proven bad behaviour with the rationale "well...he treated me OK" Does no one understand that when you buy from either a scammer, a liar or, in this case, a jackass embarrassment to our industry, you are saying that you support and condone that sort of behaviour?

It's not that difficult of a concept. I don't know why so few seem to grasp it.
 
It astonishes me when i see so many folk on this and other threads defending proven bad behaviour with the rationale "well...he treated me OK" Does no one understand that when you buy from either a scammer, a liar or, in this case, a jackass embarrassment to our industry, you are saying that you support and condone that sort of behaviour?
John. Some may see the posting of a good deal regarding Keith as condoning his other behaviors. But that is not the issue here to many of us.
Guys, read it...don't twist it. Neither Randy nor anyone else called Keith a scammer. Randy offerred an analogy to illustrate the unfortunate tendency of some to deal with disreputable people based on the fact that their personal deals went well.
Randy could have easily stated things as you have characterized what he meant. We went by what he said. Here are the relevant words from his "analogies":
Scamming ...
and .....
A good deal now and then ....
and ....
Then Trevor not caring what Keith has done in the past so wouldn't matter to him that Keith or Chris Johnson or anyone for that matter had burned their last 50 customers as long as he didn't get burned they are just fine and dandy in his book.
Certainly one can come here and state an opinion that Keith is "not to be applauded because ........." and list any number of legitimate opinions or documented reasons. Randy did not need to allege that he is a scammer, like a scammer, only capable of a good deal now and then, for which there are no allegations or evidence, etc. When questioned about it, Randy then decided that Trevor would endorse other scammers so long as they did right by him! Some of us draw a distinction between a first-class horse's arse and a scammer, that's all. We also appreciate accuracy in comparisons, even if just a litle bit. So, in you own words:

read it...don't twist it.

I am not defending Keith, only a little more thoughtfulness to accuracy in what we say before we put labels on. I have always championed that here. Just a disagreement among friends.
 
Jim

I guess you are right, this is a disagreement among friends. When you pull individual words and phrases out of Randy's statements, they can be read in any number of ways. When taken in total, they are generalizations and overall analogies that, in no way call Keith a scammer.


Again I say that anyone has the right to act in any manner they see fit:

Keith has the right to act like an idiot and post pics of his ass. He has the right to threaten people with identity theft. he has the right to post their personal info on the internet. He also has the right to have a felony record a yard long.

Peter Jolles has the 100% right to act like an ass to a potential customer when he makes an offer on animals. He then has the right to brag about that behaviour.

Matt Graybeal has the right to tout his customer service and then make customers wait weeks on end for their product.

They all have the "right" to do these things but

We condone or condemn with our dollars when we buy.....plain and simple. If you think these actions are commendable, then sup[port them.

If not.....
 
John thanks for that... Seems Jim F. is having his usual problem understanding the written or typed word. Seems he's not the only one with that problem in this thread.. Randy
 
Randall when you or Sammy show me where I said that I'd be glad to explain it.. Now go back and read real slowly, might be an idea to get someone to read it for you and show me where I said he Scammed anyone..

Justyn you said it, I just commented on your BS and then your whine about the Karma ..
 
Randy,

Are you capable of making a post without trying to insult or belittle others while doing so?

Are you trying to bait people so you and the others can hand out warnings? Or is that just who you are as a person?

I asked an honest question way back when. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
John and Randy
You have the right to your opinion of Keith but the fact of the matter his animals are great and his customer service is great. Thats what this post was about. Now he is being compared to chris johnson who I know nothing about and other people on this board with poor customer service or poor animals. I have not talked to anybody that has these problems with Keith.

Keith,
The reason I didnt do a good guy post on Tim Cole yet is you are quite a bit more contreversial than TIm lol I wanted to see who stayed on point and accurate with there posts and who posts out of there ass I think I figured it out.

To the majority thanks for your posts and insight on this matter
To the others BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
 
Naw Sammy you asked an honest question? Only one I saw was asking me about something I didn't say. Now it would be one thing if your reading Comprehension was that bad, well maybe it is you keep having trouble understanding the typed word..

As for setting people up in threads I have addressed that in another thread but then you may not have understood what I was saying.. To put it simply you might do that I think it's pretty low.. As an example the whiners post above could get a warning but it wont be from me..

It's real simple Sam I think Keiths a low life but you already knew that didn't ya.. So if you want warning points go play elsewhere I wont waste my time with you...Randy
 
Just keep insulting and belittling people Randy. It is very telling about who you are as a person.
 
I agree Sammy.
Randy's favorite pastime is putting people down and belittling them.
Out of his 1,122 posts, I would guess he has a put down or stated a rudely difference of opinion on about 1,110.

The guy is a loser, plain and simple, but hey...ya know what? No surprise here! LOL!

Randal
 
oh, BTW Randy,
We all know your into reading and comphrension,
remember, this is a Good Guy Thread about Keith.
Take your belittlings and put downs over to his Bad Guy post huh?
Understand that?
Now Randy, re-read this post again slowly, and maybe you'll comphrend.
Randal
 
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