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Ken Hallworth stealing photos for his ads.

Brandon Osborne

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I've busted this guy twice now with pics of mine, Craig Stewart's, and Dave and Tracy Barker's in his ads. I called the number in his ad and he said his girlfriend just used the pics as a reference to what the animals look like. Why would you post pics of a clutch of eggs for a reference to identity?.....unless you wanted people to think they were your eggs. He sounded sincere and said he would remove the pics immediately, but I just found them again here on the Fauna Classifieds. Buyer beware of his CAPTIVE BRED Biaks, which are likely CH imports.

Brandon Osborne
 
The pic evidently has been removed in his latest ad as of today:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/pp_classifieds/showproduct.php?product=2217&sort=1&cat=9&page=1

PRICES REDUCED ON CB BIAK CHONDROS Contact Seller
For Sale By Views Date Posted
kenhallworth 23 May 2, 2005
Asking Price Source Distance from you
$222.00 Captive hatched/born
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Description: These AWESOME little guys are are babies and juvies 1-8 months old. Biak locality. too young to safely sex. They are feeding geat, I have reds and yellows. I accept Money order or check.

1 = $299 each

2 = $250 each

3 = $240 each

4 = $234 each

5 = $222 each

Don't miss out, ask for Ken 813-892-3305

Shipping Cost: UPS over night
Telephone #: 813-892-3305

On a somewhat separate note, can a "baby" chondro be said to be "feedng great" at one or two months of age?
 
Jim O said:
The pic evidently has been removed in his latest ad as of today:


On a somewhat separate note, can a "baby" chondro be said to be "feedng great" at one or two months of age?

The pics were posted this afternoon, and this was after I called 2 days ago and asked him to stop using my pic. I guess he saw my post and decided this wasn't the place for it. lol. And NO.......a "baby" chondro is not considered an established feeder at 1-2 months old. Six months.......maybe.

Brandon Osborne
 
I don't know if I'm allowed to do this or not, if not I apologize in advance. Here's another link to an ad from the same guy......using the same stolen pics.

http://www.reptimart.com/cgi-bin/cl...esults_format=long&db_id=6588&query=retrieval

The top pic is owned by Dave and Tracy Barker, the middle pic is mine, and the last pic is Craig Stewart's from the Urban Chondro. I'm determined to make my point to these scumbags.

Brandon Osborne
 
Keep up the good work. If the owners of stolen pictures won't stand up for them then there is just something very wrong.

Good job.
 
I don't think this guy understands how close knit the chondro community really is. If he's stealing pics from breeders, it will not go unnoticed. Now he's emailing pics of others' breeding stock claiming they are his........although he has sold his breeders.

Brandon Osborne
 
Unfortunately it's quite common... I do believe nearly anyone who has posted public photos and dealt with this hobby on a business level has experienced this. I lost track how many times people have contacted us with information regarding someone one reptibid or elsewhere using our photos....... :(
 
TopShelfExotics said:
Unfortunately it's quite common... I do believe nearly anyone who has posted public photos and dealt with this hobby on a business level has experienced this. I lost track how many times people have contacted us with information regarding someone one reptibid or elsewhere using our photos....... :(


I completely understand, but when it comes time for me to post MY OWN pics, some people may associate those long dead import chondros with my picture. I may lose out on sales because of this jerkoff. I'm in the music business as well, and the way I see it, these people owe me royalties for using my pic. lol. They are making money from using my work. So far it looks like it has stopped.....until they come up with a new name and steal more pics. The witch hunt continues.....and I will not let up.

Brandon Osborne
 
I talked to Ken the other day

Saw his add and the photos looked familiar so sent him an E and he responded saying that the photos were the parents of the babies he had for sale. I asked him about Mustards(one of the photos looked like a baby Mustard) and he sent me a photo of a Mustard female saying that she was the mother of 10 of the babies he had. So I called him asking about the babies and photos and even mentioned this thread. I was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt trying to find out just what he had, He told me he was getting out of the snake business and had sold the Mustard female to a friend, also said his Chondros came from his father who had been breeding them for years. We talked for a while and he said he'd get back to me the next morning. Never heard from him again. So I'd be wary of what if anything he has to sell.
Randy
 
I recieved these messages in my private message box this week. I guess I'm a jack ass for having other things to do besides post a new good guy thread about Ken Hallworth.

Message 1: May 3, 2005
I can not post this on the Board of inquiry because I do not advertise with them as a paying customer but I hope you pass it along. I have bought over 25 GTP's from Ken Hallworth over the last 3 years and they have all been the best snakes I have ever owned. He dedicated good part of his life and over 2500 square feet of his home to just breeding GTP's and a sanctuary where he has taken in abused reptiles, I've never met anyone who knows more about this species or cared more for them except for maybe Trooper. I can not ever see him trying to scam anyone and I am sure he is sorry for the use of the picture of the eggs. I know he has sold almost all of his GTP's which were obviously a huge part of his life, so he probably sold his digital all in an effort to pay for a medical bills from a Disease his wife is dying from. I know this because I talk to his father who has been also breeding chondros for over 15 years. So before you guys go on a bashing spree, maybe you should try to find out a little more about a guy. This message will be a test of what kind of man you are, so if it ends up on the Board of inquiry we will all know.
Regards,
Frank Nuvera
Private Collector

Message 2: May 4, 2005
Now we all know what a piece of #@&% you really are because my messae is not up in the board of inquiry. I honestly think your the kind of guy who probably stays in his underwear all day eating bon bons and patting yourself on the back about your egg pictures. You honestly must love the sound of your own voice, as much as you run your mouth on this website. Thank God people like you aren't put in charge of more than something like snake egg pictures or we would all be in deep .
Frank Nuvera

My reply to message 2: May 7, 2005
Frank,

FYI, I have a life too. I don't post on this board everyday, nor do I read it every day. First I called Ken and asked him nicely to delete the picture from his ad on kingsnake. He sounded sincere over the phone so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Well what do ya know, the very next day there was a new ad on a new website with the same pics......and again, another new ad on another new website the following day. He never mentioned his wife, but did mention his "girlfriend" as being the one that posted the pics. All I know is he took the pics from 3 different breeders. I was just trying to cover my own ass. If he's that big into chondros, why doesn't he have pics of his own......whether new or old. He could have asked to use the pics as "representations" of his chondros, but he didn't. What he did was illegal whether you want to believe it or not. Anyone can get a throwaway camera and have a disc made to post pictures. Please don't make accusations towards me, as you don't know me at all. I don't know Ken, but I do know that he used my pic as well as others' pics without permission.

Have a nice day.
Brandon Osborne


Ken had every chance to make this right. Why hasn't he posted here yet? Instead, he tried to sneak around the different classified forums to post more ads with the pics he was asked not to use.......pics he said he WOULD NOT USE anymore.

Frank, as hard as it is to gain a good reputation in this business, I take everything I do very seriously. If someone is using my pictures to sell their snakes, and the snakes end up dieing, that can come back on me. I do take great pride in my collection.....why shouldn't I? If you aren't proud of your animals, then you probably don't care and are in it for the $$$$$. With all the scammers out there, why wouldn't I try to defend myself in this case? I will do whatever it takes to keep from getting the "bad guy" status.....and in this case, even though you may disagree, Ken is the bad guy.

Brandon Osborne
Private Collector and proud of it.
 
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