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If there were any legal $55 options for shipping venomous snakes, that would be nice to know about. Cheapest possible to my knowledge is $68 to meet the Delta requirements for shipping live venomous reptiles in a legal, marked container.

Would any of the more experienced Delta shippers please chime in?
 
okay....

and your point is what?? didn't I post that I ship venomous and NONvenomous through delta?? didn't I post that I have paid more than $55 for shipping on several occasions. I only ship in legal containers and boxing methods with all the stuff that goes through delta, how could you do it any other way?? they do inspect the boxes, if you know so much about delta, you should know that.
Kevin
 
Re: okay....

oreganus said:
and your point is what?? didn't I post that I ship venomous and NONvenomous through delta??


No, this is what you said.

Besides venomous go delta and that starts at like $55 or something.

Venomous snakes do not start at $55 to ship Delta. As far as I know, no live animal cargo can be legally shipped for cheaper than $68 through Delta.


they do inspect the boxes, if you know so much about delta, you should know that.

That's the thing, I *don't* know all that much about Delta shipping since I only do it a few times a year. I am not a dealer; I only let snakes go to accredited institutions or trusted individuals who can show that they give good care including veterinary support to their animals. That's why I am asking dealers and more experienced shippers to chime in here and share their knowledge.

And no, they don't always inspect the boxes. Out of all the times I've shipped venomous snakes out of my local Delta cargo office, they have asked to look inside the box exactly once.
 
well, it is obvious....

You shouldn't have chimed in about something that you don't know anything about. They are required to check ALL freight now to see that they are properly packed and boxed. On SOME shipments you can ship priority first and use a commodity code(0187 to be exact) and that will cut down on the cost. Delta has been quite strict on shipping as of late with all the terrorist threats and such, I ship with them quite a bit and I know this for a fact. There is no scenario in which I or anyone else could try to do anything except ship under the guidelines delta has, I will say that just because I know there will be some idiot jumping in saying "well you probably do this" or "you probably do that".
Kevin Smith
 
Re: well, it is obvious....

oreganus said:
You shouldn't have chimed in about something that you don't know anything about.


Even I know that you can't ship venomous on Delta for $55.

I ship with them quite a bit and I know this for a fact.

Really? Then why do Delta records show that you have *not* been shipping with them for the last nine months? And why does one of your customers have a UPS tracking number for a package that originated 3.7 miles from your address in Gresham?

Go ahead, lie some more. It's entertaining to watch, kind of like a well done burger flipping around in hot fry grease. LOL
 
Tried to stay out

I just spent the most sickening 30 minutes reading this thread and now I regret that I did but it is too late now. Since I did take the time to read this thread I would like to make a few observations. The most reasonable person that has been involved in this whole thing hasn't made a comment in many pages. I am refering to Ray. If I am not mistaken his last post was the one in which he states that there hasn't been a Delta shipment in the last nine months yet Kevin claims to have emailed Ray with the information needed to prove that he shipped properly. Jeremy has provided emails that can easily be altered and even in the ones that he did provide he approved shipping a snake in an improper and very dangerous way. If that is the case both parties are equally at fault without question. As for the snake itself irrelavent of my or others opinions of the parties in question I have to say that Jeremy seems to be on the wrong side since he hasn't done anything within reason to attempt to correct what he sees as a problem with the snake.

I am inserting my two cents worth since I subjected myself to the unbelievable childish antics of so many different, I assume adults, people wanting to bash verge from topic and just down right be mean. I am not going to point out anyone individual nor am I saying that everyone that has commented has been childish. I can understand why some people would be upset about some of the issue that have been raised but some of the comments and antics that has been displayed here have been totaly unnessecary. I hope that I haven't hurt anyones feelings with my observations, ifso I applogize but I was unable to not say something after reading the entire thread.

Again I would love to hear what Ray has to say at this point, assuming that he did recieve the emails from Kevin.

Jonathan Brumfield
 
Re: Re: well, it is obvious....

snakegetters said:
Even I know that you can't ship venomous on Delta for $55.



Really? Then why do Delta records show that you have *not* been shipping with them for the last nine months? And why does one of your customers have a UPS tracking number for a package that originated 3.7 miles from your address in Gresham?

Go ahead, lie some more. It's entertaining to watch, kind of like a well done burger flipping around in hot fry grease. LOL

I can't even count how many times I have shipped using delta in the past year. That is crazy and Ray never said that I didn't ship with delta in the last year, he said that he couldn't find the airbill for Jeremy. The burger flipper thing is getting really old since I do nothing of the sort and I do just fine. Once again you are harping on the $55 dollar thing. I can ship venomous for as little as $68, there, will that get you off this obsessive little trip?
Kevin
 
Re: Tried to stay out

acebrumfield said:
I just spent the most sickening 30 minutes reading this thread and now I regret that I did but it is too late now. Since I did take the time to read this thread I would like to make a few observations. The most reasonable person that has been involved in this whole thing hasn't made a comment in many pages. I am refering to Ray. If I am not mistaken his last post was the one in which he states that there hasn't been a Delta shipment in the last nine months yet Kevin claims to have emailed Ray with the information needed to prove that he shipped properly. Jeremy has provided emails that can easily be altered and even in the ones that he did provide he approved shipping a snake in an improper and very dangerous way. If that is the case both parties are equally at fault without question. As for the snake itself irrelavent of my or others opinions of the parties in question I have to say that Jeremy seems to be on the wrong side since he hasn't done anything within reason to attempt to correct what he sees as a problem with the snake.

I am inserting my two cents worth since I subjected myself to the unbelievable childish antics of so many different, I assume adults, people wanting to bash verge from topic and just down right be mean. I am not going to point out anyone individual nor am I saying that everyone that has commented has been childish. I can understand why some people would be upset about some of the issue that have been raised but some of the comments and antics that has been displayed here have been totaly unnessecary. I hope that I haven't hurt anyones feelings with my observations, ifso I applogize but I was unable to not say something after reading the entire thread.

Again I would love to hear what Ray has to say at this point, assuming that he did recieve the emails from Kevin.

Jonathan Brumfield

Very well put. I agree with your post, it shows great intelligence which will be totally wasted on this site, but your post was good even with that in mind. I do accept responsibility for some of the bashing. Yes, it is childish, but given the fact that 98% of the people that decided to join this thread came here specifically to make wild accusations about me basically because they do not approve of venomoids, I didn't mind being childish right back at them. I will not take any responsibility for the fact that I am accused of shipping UPS, my fault only lies in not allowing Jeremy to rip me off, since that is obviously his main problem when he started this whole thread with lies and false accusations. If you also start from the beginning you will notice that not once does he ever mention why he was so against making a deal right that he felt he was wronged in, when my only request was to make it a secure transaction. That side of it got lost about thirty pages ago, not because it wasn't important, but because the main goal of the majority of the posters was to come on here and make an evil venomoider look bad. You can see this scenario play out with the same few anti venomoiders on several different forums on several different websites.
Kevin Smith
 
Burger King Tells THE WHOPPER

oreganus said:
Jason, you are laim idiot....did your parents have any kids that lived?? just curious? I love how your posts are so arrogant and ignorant at the same time. Such skill wasted on the fauna...
Kevin

Sincere apologies for the accidental multiple posting.

Burgerboy, attack the lameness of my idioacy if you will, for at least I am intelligent enough to abide by the law, in addition to spelling the easier words. Did my parents have any kids that lived? C'mon now.

In your last post, you stated:
"That is crazy and Ray never said that I didn't ship with delta in the last year, he said that he couldn't find the airbill for Jeremy. "

This is what Ray said:
"I now have official confirmation that Kevin DID NOT send the King cobra by Delta airlines. A Delta staff member went back 9 months to verify that Kevin has NOT used Delta to ship the King Cobra. Surprised??? Nope, not me. A proven liar, is a liar! Why would we expect anything else from him?"

That pretty much says it all. Busted once again. You seem to think everyone is stupid. You seem to think that you can manipulate the truth and statements just enough to give you an edge. Pathetic! I'll take a chocolate milkshake, burgerboy. And don't be stingy w/ the whipped cream.

I am a currier for someone in the area. Once a week, I drive to drop off numerous venomous shipments. Some are sent Priority 1, some are sent Dash. None of the shipments sent out have even come close to such a rate. $67.09 is the lowest I have seen this magic number. The rates don't change too much based on destination. I ship from Texas too, and I have shipped all over from this point. Your distance from Oregan to NY is much farther. This would certainly be more if sent priority 1 or Dash. You can't tell me or anyone else any info to back up your claim that you did it the right way. No approx amount, no bill, no proof, nobody coming to back your claim. Nothing. I'll also take some fries w/ that, burgerboy.

Since you aren't bright enough to fabricate a sound lie or abide by the rules, i wonder if your brain can generate enough power to change fryer grease? Quit the hobby, give your snakes to someone else, and never return again. You aren't wanted and nobody respects you. Can't you see that?

Later BurgerBoy,

Jason Shephard
 
Re: Burger King Tells THE WHOPPER

thecobrakid said:
Sincere apologies for the accidental multiple posting.

Burgerboy, attack the lameness of my idioacy if you will, for at least I am intelligent enough to abide by the law, in addition to spelling the easier words. Did my parents have any kids that lived? C'mon now.

>I will take that as a NO

In your last post, you stated:
"That is crazy and Ray never said that I didn't ship with delta in the last year, he said that he couldn't find the airbill for Jeremy. "

This is what Ray said:
"I now have official confirmation that Kevin DID NOT send the King cobra by Delta airlines. A Delta staff member went back 9 months to verify that Kevin has NOT used Delta to ship the King Cobra. Surprised??? Nope, not me. A proven liar, is a liar! Why would we expect anything else from him?"

I have a question about that, would it say "king cobra" on the computer or would it say "live venomous reptiles"? Last time I checked it very rarely says the species on any airbill or box.

That pretty much says it all. Busted once again. You seem to think everyone is stupid. You seem to think that you can manipulate the truth and statements just enough to give you an edge. Pathetic! I'll take a chocolate milkshake, burgerboy. And don't be stingy w/ the whipped cream.

>refer to the last reply before you start you self indulgent taunts.

I am a currier for someone in the area. Once a week, I drive to drop off numerous venomous shipments. Some are sent Priority 1, some are sent Dash. None of the shipments sent out have even come close to such a rate. $67.09 is the lowest I have seen this magic number. The rates don't change too much based on destination. I ship from Texas too, and I have shipped all over from this point. Your distance from Oregan to NY is much farther. This would certainly be more if sent priority 1 or Dash. You can't tell me or anyone else any info to back up your claim that you did it the right way. No approx amount, no bill, no proof, nobody coming to back your claim. Nothing. I'll also take some fries w/ that, burgerboy.

>Keep trying, if you get one small box with a couple baby snakes in it, It can be a very low charge. I have paid around that for a box that came with From Ray and contained a baby king and a black spitter. I am not trying to drag Ray into this, I am merely giving an example. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about because you keep ranting about burgerboy and other childish taunts. I stand by my assesment of your intelligence.

Since you aren't bright enough to fabricate a sound lie or abide by the rules, i wonder if your brain can generate enough power to change fryer grease? Quit the hobby, give your snakes to someone else, and never return again. You aren't wanted and nobody respects you. Can't you see that?

>I have not seen one intelligent thing come from your ignorant mouth since you started posting. Why do you think I care what you think? Why are you trying to attack me? could it be because your own self esteem is just a little bit down towards the bottom? Inbreeding will do that to you judging by the brilliant displays you have made here. I am perfectly fine with selling venomoids and other snakes, your are the one that should maybe quit the hobby since you have displayed in this thread you don't have the intelligence it takes to be involved. Even some others that I have disagreed with on here show intelligence, hell Ray is extremely intelligent, as with Tanith and others, but you are nothing of the sort. Refer to your last statement below for an example:

Later BurgerBoy,

Jason Shephard
 
omg, i still read this, to still not find an answer from kevin.

how many threads this going to be again kevin?

you really seem to drag them out nicely in the mean time proving nothing at all. you posted a picture of your kid, quicker than you posting any proof on your behalf. you dont want to admit to the tracking number, cause you know you admit to a crime. am i right? shure i am.

i beleive you have shipped with delta in the past year. 9-12 months from the last reported shipping is within a year. unless you failed to understand it. you didnt say within the past month, 3months,6months. you plainly said year.

like i said before, you think its cute and cheap to risk innocent peoples lives. just wait till one escapes and bites someone, willing to bet we wont hear from you again. thats if the cops catch you, we all know you scumbags flee when the law is behind you.
 
actually.....

Bringerofdoom said:
omg, i still read this, to still not find an answer from kevin.

how many threads this going to be again kevin?

>I figure with all of you morons we can get it at least up to 100

you really seem to drag them out nicely in the mean time proving nothing at all. you posted a picture of your kid, quicker than you posting any proof on your behalf. you dont want to admit to the tracking number, cause you know you admit to a crime. am i right? shure i am.

>Why do I have to prove anything or make any effort?? I didn't start this thread or make false accusations. If you are so convinced, why is it we still haven't gotten proof from the accuser? It was suppose to be posted two days ago, correct??

i beleive you have shipped with delta in the past year. 9-12 months from the last reported shipping is within a year. unless you failed to understand it. you didnt say within the past month, 3months,6months. you plainly said year.
>Why should I have to explain anything to you or any other person on here? If you want to know so bad, I just shipped yesterday. If you want to know how many times I shipped in the last year, I am sorry, but I will have to leave it at many many times.

like i said before, you think its cute and cheap to risk innocent peoples lives. just wait till one escapes and bites someone, willing to bet we wont hear from you again. thats if the cops catch you, we all know you scumbags flee when the law is behind you.

>I am not and I don't risk anyones lives, that is up to the individual to make an assesment on their own lives through their own choices. If you want to wait and see something bad, wait and see when one of these nonvenomoid sellers sells a minor or unskilled person a venomous reptile and it kills someone, that will shut the whole hobby down, but wait...I know....you don't want to talk about that because it wouldn't suite your mode of attack and your motives. You insist on making little taunts and calling people scumbags, but there are alot of people in this hobby that only own hots doing alot of illegal stuff, ask some of the people on this forum, I doubt if they will fess up to it, but they know what they do. Everyone has skeletons, don't try and act out the "my crap don't stink" play here.
Kevin
 
gee if only my comment was against the venemous snakes. i was merely refferring to your risking of ups and other package handler lives with your hackjob venemoids.

dont claim you didnt ship it ups either, there is plenty of proof to prove otherwise. you dont prove your end one bit at all. you respond to post's but with nothing new from the last time you responded.

Why should I have to explain anything to you or any other person on here? If you want to know so bad, I just shipped yesterday. If you want to know how many times I shipped in the last year, I am sorry, but I will have to leave it at many many times.

Why should you prove it? gee i thought your name is on the line here. if you dont prove it you are a liar in everyones eyes. you let people say what they want, but you dont offer proof so everyone would shutup.

i dont care dont prove it, just makes me laugh that you keep posting to this and continuing it.
 
You know I can be a nice guy and avoid the venomoid issue and state what proof Jermey needs to show us to put this issue to rest. But for some reason Jermey hasn't been posting for a while.

But let me say this here and now. If it is proven Kevin did ship through UPS I will be one saddened person. That is just a stupid boneheaded move which will cause this hobby nothing but grief.

As for the tax evasion and other issues it is very easy to get what information you need on Kevin to give to the PROPER agencies so they can look into it further. Let those agencies investigate him because all we are doing making claims here is pissing in the wind. Don't claim something illegal and not do something to at least notify the PROPER agencies of suspected illegal activity. And this is very easy to do, just call 1-800-829-0433 which is the IRS fraud hotline. Give them Kevin's name, addy, DOB, and SS# along with the web site addy's where he is selling snakes and the IRS will do the rest when it comes time for him to file. Plus I know Kingscam would just love for the IRS to be asking for all records of sales for Kevin for the past 5 or so years. :D

Now granted the venomoid issue pisses me the hell off, and we all know Kevin does these, but what is the point in making my blood pressure rise in a debate with him over something we all know he will not stop unless made to stop. I do not agree with what he does just to turn a profit, but unless Stalin has been brought back from the dead and we are now a communist country he can do just about anything he wants to do be it legal or illegal (untill he is caught) because this is after all a free country.
 
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Re: Burger King Tells THE WHOPPER

"Keep trying, if you get one small box with a couple baby snakes in it, It can be a very low charge. I have paid around that for a box that came with From Ray and contained a baby king and a black spitter. I am not trying to drag Ray into this, I am merely giving an example. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about because you keep ranting about burgerboy and other childish taunts. I stand by my assesment of your intelligence."

Funny. Witty. I have shipped Baby snakes. You are so full of it. It does NOT Cost that little as you say. You are lying (again) I sent 2 baby boas from San Antonio to Santa Fe, last week. That cost cost $69.71 sent Priority 1. No, the shipment would say, "LIVE VENOMOUS REPTILES", however, burgerboy you are required to fill out the "SHIPPERS CERTIFICATE FOR LIVE ANIMALS", supplied by Delta Air Logistics. This form is to be filled out in everyshipment to identify the number of packages, categorize packing classification, name and address of shipper, and the number of species-listing scientific and common names. So, you see, burgerboy, the bill asks for the type of shipement, in addition to holding a record for the species. So.........in theory, if you did ship venomous reptiles, then it should be no problem to verify the contents, as well as the type of shipment.

Give it up, Burgerboy, you're in the lunch rush slam, and your bogged down w/ orders to fill. There is plenty of fresh meat ready to take you on, but your patty is burnt. Well done. Charred! Pittsburg style!!

Yes, I want fries w/ that!

Jason Shephard
 
This thread is still going???

Geez, it is getting pretty pathetic on here now, especially now that Scott(the mustang rider;) ) has decided to grace us with his presence. In case anyone doesn't know, Scott has a little male fantasy thing going on with me, he is one of my biggest stalker/fans. I am not sure what homo-erotic fantasies he has about me, but he will be on this thread for awhile now.
As for reporting me for IRS fraud, go ahead, I have nothing to hide, but realize you will also be screwing alot of people in this hobby because do you think they would stop with checking me out?? NO, they will have the idea in their heads and be checking every person that posts on all these websites with stuff for sale. But I forgot, the hobby doesn't matter to the flamers on this thread, hell they are even allowed on most of the decent sites anyways, so what do they care. It is amazing that I am accused of ruining the hobby when the anti venomoiders do so much to ruin it for everyone.
As for Jason's little rant, keep trying there, now you are ranting about two or three dollars. Pretty pathetic.
There are only like two people on this forum posting anything intelligently, the rest like Mr. Mustang rider and cobra kid are plain idiots that have nothing intelligent to offer. Your threats are really really pathetic, you guys have been threatening me for years, but I haven't done anything wrong but hit your little right-wing morality button, and contrary to popular opinion on this site, that is not illegal. As one person put it, this isn't a communist state(YET), even though Scott and other would like to think they are the dictators(more like "dick-taters"), it really isn't going to happen. So until then, as one intelligent poster put it, keep pissing in the wind.
Kevin Smith
 
Interesting Reply . Up until now I have not insulted you in any way shape or form. NOR WILL I SINK TO YOUR APPARENT LOW LEVEL OF INSULTING PERSONS.

Unlike you I have kept my word at all times and answered any and every question asked of me on any thread. Can you say the same. um NO would be the answer to the question. Ill answer that one as I am sure you would not or would skirt the question like every other question you have ever been asked.

Though I must admit I cant wait to see how many warning points your nailed with for your last post.

As to all the numbers I posted They are correct , real , factual numbers. Also NO breeder who conducts bussiness within the laws will need to worry about the IRS. So stop skirting the issues and answer the questions with PROOF not your lies.Then again if a honest person was accused of so many potential crimes they sure would provide proof that it is false.


I have been posting all along, though I suspect if you were to stop resorting to school yard tactics of calling people names you may have noticed that.

And Finally How many times on this thread are you going to say your finished. I got a bet going on how many this time?
 
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Scott....

It doesn't matter how much proof I or anyone else show you, if you don't want to believe it you come up with a hundred different threats and scenarios it which you could possibly be right. All anyone has to do is read other threads in which you have done the same. All your threats are really pathetic, you have been saying over and over that " you are going to get me busted" for all of your outrageous and hearsay accusations, but guess what, how many years is it going to take for you to get the point that you are wasting your time?? I have been waiting with all of your threats over and over again, yet nothing happens, I wonder why? Could it be because you and others like you are just trash talking fools that have an obsession with me? You know what is really pathetic? You and other antivenomoiders make up so many BS lies about venomoids and people that sell them, that you start to buy into your own BS. That is really sad. Like I said, I am waiting for your "big results" from your threats, I guess I shouldn't wait because it is a waste of time, you are big talk, but have nothing to back it up. Hell, you could have drove here by now and got your ass beat by me and ended it all, but instead you like to talk trash and make threats with no proof. Pretty funny. You and elapid man,cobrakid, and every other joker couldn't put your heads together and make half an IQ point. You come on forums and pretend you know all the facts, but in reality you don't know me, what I do or have done, and all of your rabid threats don't do anything but waste oxygen, The only thing you know for certain is that I have sold venomoids, everything else is just rumors that you have heard from others. You so little proof of any of your wild fantasy stories about me that the only real facts you can threaten me with are "my warning points" on this forum or how many times I post.
Kevin
 
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