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Well bottom line is, it is Jeff's site. If he chooses not to let you sell there, then that’s his decision.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with his actions, but it is his site. :shrug01:

It would be like anywhere else on the web, if they don't want you there for whatever reason, they will pull you.

I will tell you this, I doubt this thread will sway him either way.
 
varnyard said:
Well bottom line is, it is Jeff's site. If he chooses not to let you sell there, then that’s his decision.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with his actions, but it is his site. :shrug01:

It would be like anywhere else on the web, if they don't want you there for whatever reason, they will pull you.

I will tell you this, I doubt this thread will sway him either way.
it wont sway him at all..this i know..my only point was to let some body hear my side..and to inform others to be so carefull when dealing with them that they dont make what ever mistake it was that i did(since they wont tell me)
its his site so yes he can do what he wants..so to answer everyones question as to why im not on kingsnake

I STILL DONT KNOW!!!!!

tim
 
Tim, I understand, and I feel for your need to be there, however, this is what happens when you depend on others as a source of income.

Yours is not the first story about them, and it probably wont be the last. But it is the way he wants it, be it right or wrong.
 
but still seems like there has got to be something missing - sounds to me like either you or the person you purchased from - really pissed someone off or has enemies in high places.
It is Jeff's site, and maybe it is personal. If the person you bought from and Jeff have personal issues, maybe you were caught in the middle. I would guess the reasoning would be that kingsnake does not want this person to profit indirectly from their site.
Good luck to you, I know someone who got suspended and got their account back after a little time goes by.
 
:thumbsup: I can tell you this. Regardless of the situation, it is a shame Tim was caught in the middle because of who he associates with or whatever the reasons may be. Tim is a good guy and IMO an asset to KS if given the opportunity. Its a shame that they are missing a guy who is more than fair to deal with and represents his animals accurately and professionally. KS is how I met Tim and am glad I was given that opportunity. Just too bad others who use the site won't get the same chance unless they use Fauna. I hope in the end this is worked out and he is reinstated, I respect Tim as well as KS alot. I can't blame Tim for wanting to share his story and it says alot for his character that he is not angry and bashing KS as most people would. Tim has alot of exciting new projects in the works and would love to see them shared with the KS world when he releases them. Good luck Tim!!!
 
KS is getting a little big fr their brithces.....

I think their level of customer service is lacking tremendously. I have been suspended from their forum for "arguing." The other party involved was not suspended. When I emailed the mods asking why I was suspended, I was told I was "trolling" the forum. The thread was started by someone else and I was the 6th person to post there, and didn't say anything negative, but just disagreed. It is still up and you can read it for yourself. I have the same screenname here as there. I contacted Jeff Barringer about this, and he sent an email that said it is not his department. Excuse me, I thought he owned the sight.

Yesterday, I started a thread in the forum there about the reptile shows on blogtalkradio.com. It was pulled. I sent a very polite email to the moderators telling them that I thought the topics covered on the radio shows would make good conversation in the forums, and why it was pulled so that I may change the wording and the post remain. I was told that advertising or promotion of an event or website was not allowed. Ok. What about all the people that post in their forums with a website in their signature, but do not pay for space on kingsnake in the breeder section where sites are listed? The radio show I was posting about was Ralph Davis' new show. I think he pays for enough advertising there that any "advertising" done in the forums should be considered paid for. And the last opinion on this matter is that there is no profit being made by these radio shows. They sell no advertising on there. It is non-profit, and I didn't think non profits could "advertise" if no goods are being traded or sold. When something good is mentioned about someone for a purchase in the forums, is that "advertising?" I love to see new morphs unveiled there, but is that advertising? What about when people go to a show and take pics of animals for sale at BHB, RDR, NERD, TSK, VPI or any others, is that advertising? If it is assumed that those posts do not generate potential sales leads, they are mistaken. If they have an animal similar to that back at the facility and someone sees one they had at a show and calls and asks and they sell the one they did not take to the show, then the post served as advertising, but correct me if I am wrong. what about when someone posts saying look what I produced and the next day it is in the classifieds, is that advertising? There is one perfect example of that there now.

Laslty. This part about their people sneaking around here trying to find someone who doesn't like them and ban them. I think that is silly, and seems like they might be violating rights of free speech.

I don't mean this to be bashing kingsnake, just some things I have been frustrated with, hints I no longer have a classified account with them, and emailed Jeff Barringer about that when he sent me a renewal notice. He promptly replied and discontinued my advertising privelages and all current ads were removed.

A little customer service goes a long way I think. I also told Jeff that if I could sell the reptiles I produce adequately without using them that I would. I don't plan on producing much that I want to sell as I am working with exclusively double recessives and fires so I will keep most of what I produce besides the fires that I sell. I think I could do that just fine here.

Thanks,
Jody Barnes
 
royalkreationz said:
I think their level of customer service is lacking tremendously. I have been suspended from their forum for "arguing." The other party involved was not suspended. When I emailed the mods asking why I was suspended, I was told I was "trolling" the forum. The thread was started by someone else and I was the 6th person to post there, and didn't say anything negative, but just disagreed. It is still up and you can read it for yourself. I have the same screenname here as there. I contacted Jeff Barringer about this, and he sent an email that said it is not his department. Excuse me, I thought he owned the sight.

Yesterday, I started a thread in the forum there about the reptile shows on blogtalkradio.com. It was pulled. I sent a very polite email to the moderators telling them that I thought the topics covered on the radio shows would make good conversation in the forums, and why it was pulled so that I may change the wording and the post remain. I was told that advertising or promotion of an event or website was not allowed. Ok. What about all the people that post in their forums with a website in their signature, but do not pay for space on kingsnake in the breeder section where sites are listed? The radio show I was posting about was Ralph Davis' new show. I think he pays for enough advertising there that any "advertising" done in the forums should be considered paid for. And the last opinion on this matter is that there is no profit being made by these radio shows. They sell no advertising on there. It is non-profit, and I didn't think non profits could "advertise" if no goods are being traded or sold. When something good is mentioned about someone for a purchase in the forums, is that "advertising?" I love to see new morphs unveiled there, but is that advertising? What about when people go to a show and take pics of animals for sale at BHB, RDR, NERD, TSK, VPI or any others, is that advertising? If it is assumed that those posts do not generate potential sales leads, they are mistaken. If they have an animal similar to that back at the facility and someone sees one they had at a show and calls and asks and they sell the one they did not take to the show, then the post served as advertising, but correct me if I am wrong. what about when someone posts saying look what I produced and the next day it is in the classifieds, is that advertising? There is one perfect example of that there now.

Laslty. This part about their people sneaking around here trying to find someone who doesn't like them and ban them. I think that is silly, and seems like they might be violating rights of free speech.

I don't mean this to be bashing kingsnake, just some things I have been frustrated with, hints I no longer have a classified account with them, and emailed Jeff Barringer about that when he sent me a renewal notice. He promptly replied and discontinued my advertising privelages and all current ads were removed.

A little customer service goes a long way I think. I also told Jeff that if I could sell the reptiles I produce adequately without using them that I would. I don't plan on producing much that I want to sell as I am working with exclusively double recessives and fires so I will keep most of what I produce besides the fires that I sell. I think I could do that just fine here.

Thanks,
Jody Barnes

You know why you were banned!!
 
hmmmm

suspended not banned I can still post there I don't disagree that I should have been suspended, but thought it should have been along with others. It says in their TOS a direct insult is not allowed. There should have been more than 1 banned. I just thought it needed to be more fair.
 
royalkreationz said:
suspended not banned I can still post there I don't disagree that I should have been suspended, but thought it should have been along with others. It says in their TOS a direct insult is not allowed. There should have been more than 1 banned. I just thought it needed to be more fair.

Chill out Brother! I forgive you.. LOL! You are alright in my book! :thumbsup:
 
How about taking off the caps lock?

"SINCE 80% OF BABIES IN THE USA ARE BORN IN JULY"

That is not true. Ball pythons hatch all year round in the United States.

I do not always like what they do but as it says in the contract that you agreed to upon starting use of their site and service, it is their site and they have the right to refuse your business just as you have the right to refuse somebody that wants to buy from you. They have a big issue with people getting banned from their site having buddies sign up and sell the same animals for them. I would bet that is the issue here. BUT, like I said, it is irrelevant. They can refuse you service if they want to.
 
royalkreationz said:
I contacted Jeff Barringer about this, and he sent an email that said it is not his department. Excuse me, I thought he owned the sight.


I had thought that he sold the company but stayed on to work for them.
 
evansnakes said:
I had thought that he sold the company but stayed on to work for them.


he owns the company but has staff run different parts of it. Depending on what type of grievance you have with the site is what determines who you need to actually contact to speak with. There is a contact page with a whole list of different departments to choose from.
 
Well bottom line is, it is Jeff's site. If he chooses not to let you sell there, then that’s his decision... I am not agreeing or disagreeing with his actions, but it is his site.
I do not always like what they do but as it says in the contract that you agreed to upon starting use of their site and service, it is their site and they have the right to refuse your business just as you have the right to refuse somebody that wants to buy from you.
Exactly. Just like when someone is in MY house, they need to abide by MY rules whether you think they're fair or not. KS is Jeff's house.
 
KS has deffinitly gone down hill .

i know a local breeder ( small time) that recently bought a whole collection of stuff for turn around ..
He decided to apply for Kingsnake account so he went and registered and that was successful , then a day later went and purchased an account to be able to post his ads ..
well he told me as soon as he paid for his account , he could no longer sign into his registered account . he said he had the message "your account has been dissabled for TOS violations ".. ?????????????

I think this is totally funny and stupid at the same time because he has never had an account before , and he didnt register it under any weird names , he just used his actuall name and information ..
they took the money he paid for his account and then banned him and wont return any of his emails asking " Whats Going On ?"..
Im not bashing KS either but i tell you what someone need to get a serious reality check over their .. seems like somone over their has a serious God complex going on ...
 
evansnakes said:
How about taking off the caps lock?

"SINCE 80% OF BABIES IN THE USA ARE BORN IN JULY"

That is not true. Ball pythons hatch all year round in the United States.

I do not always like what they do but as it says in the contract that you agreed to upon starting use of their site and service, it is their site and they have the right to refuse your business just as you have the right to refuse somebody that wants to buy from you. They have a big issue with people getting banned from their site having buddies sign up and sell the same animals for them. I would bet that is the issue here. BUT, like I said, it is irrelevant. They can refuse you service if they want to.
80% was just an example..my babies all hatched in july/august..majority of breeders i work with hatch babies in florida between jun and august..that was the point i was trying to make...how can i sell morphs before august if mine were not born yet

as far as your comment(i would bet that is the issue here) that is far from the truth...i bought animals from the same exact wholeseller i had been using and that at least 15 others on kingsnake use and still use

so mr evens do you have any other loving words to accuse :thumbsup:
(NOTICE I TOOK THE CAP LOCK OFF FOR YOU)


tim
 
I've been buying and selling on kingsnake.com for close to ten years now have never had any problems at all. In fact it's been quite the opposite as I have made thousands of dollars by advertising there via the classifieds service, and have also made too many business and personal contacts there to count. I am grateful that I am provided such a venue and such a service.

Tim, I might be completely off base here, but I cannot help but wonder if the person that you are being accused of selling for after his account was banned is not someone that is highly disliked by not only kingsnake.com but perhaps even the entire ball python community? The reason I am wondering about this is that for you to be banned for posting this other persons animals (so kingsnake.com says), this person must have a rather high profile reputation over there, otherwise why would the nature of your ads raised any red flags over on kingsnake? I'm not saying you are right or wrong because we are really only hearing one side of this story, but I was just curious about that. Thanks.
 
KelliH said:
I've been buying and selling on kingsnake.com for close to ten years now have never had any problems at all. In fact it's been quite the opposite as I have made thousands of dollars by advertising there via the classifieds service, and have also made too many business and personal contacts there to count. I am grateful that I am provided such a venue and such a service.

Tim, I might be completely off base here, but I cannot help but wonder if the person that you are being accused of selling for after his account was banned is not someone that is highly disliked by not only kingsnake.com but perhaps even the entire ball python community? The reason I am wondering about this is that for you to be banned for posting this other persons animals (so kingsnake.com says), this person must have a rather high profile reputation over there, otherwise why would the nature of your ads raised any red flags over on kingsnake? I'm not saying you are right or wrong because we are really only hearing one side of this story, but I was just curious about that. Thanks.

no the person has done quite a bit for the reptile community and still does..he was an active member of kingsnake for years..i dont think you will find to many people out there who have anything negative to say about him..

i also seemed to have a good reputation and place with kingsnake..this is what the entire post was about..yes jeff can allow anyone there he chooses to have..however i feel i have done no wrong and no evidence has ever been brought forward..i was simply denied my account..yes i can walk away but when i feel i have been wronged then all i want to do is speak my side of the story..you stated you made quite a bit of $$$ there and so did i..i have lost several of my customers as many of those customers do not venture here..i was denied the ability to offer my animals for sale with out any provable evidence

tim
 
Thanks for the clarification, Tim. I understand you are upset about this. I wish the person that was originally banned/suspended that you were accused of selling animals for would come forward and post as well.
 
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