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Inquiry KRIS REINERS ------ ARIZONA

Still getting these from Pat. LEAVE HIM ALONE KRIS.

Kris, you were a bully, I knew it, that's why I'm all over you. And that's why you never heard anything from these guys. He begged you to stop, he has personal problems and you are harassing him!

That's why I'm onto you! I watched you bully fools for a while now. Now you have the biggest TROLL on ya! See ya on FB bro!
 

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You keep posting a pic where is Patrick and Illist jay? Yes I contacted Patrick last night and said one snake might have had ri..... So a snake died after 6 months out my care.. Where did the pic come from?
 
He came home one day and the suriname was dead after 6+ months out my care and the other snake had a slite ri. You are crazy Tom! No was not being a bully never like you. Post the whole convo we had I have it. Tell everyone how you told me to kill myself!!!!
 
Tom Pecanic said:
If you are "ok" with this picture! Then there is something wrong with you! It's simple. So simple! This picture, makes me sick! Look at the water dish, closely! ;)
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How do we know this isn't your picture? Where is the proof that it's kris'? You could have just gotten any old pic off of google. I checked out kris' facebook and didn't see this pic anywhere.
 
juliasara said:
How do we know this isn't your picture? Where is the proof that it's kris'? You could have just gotten any old pic off of google. I checked out kris' facebook and didn't see this pic anywhere.
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It's I think the thread stamped in his name. Wow! You're good! Look back...

Who wants to edit some screenshots for me showing how tuff Kris is?
 
snowgyre said:
Hate to do this to you, Tom, but I did offer to help you post proof. You responded with odd trolling comments and then blocked me on Facebook. The BOI has its own set of guidelines for a reason, choosing not to follow them (especially when you initiate a thread) has its own set of consequences.

I really, truly don't understand why you're behaving in such a way? It almost seems like you find this attention amusing? You've got some really neat snakes out there, but this bad habit you have of trolling is doing nothing but hurting you. I've seen you lash out on Facebook as well and I even had to remove myself from one of your groups after there was highly compromising material being posted. I, as a professional, have no choice but to distance myself as far away from that stuff as possible (nor do I want to be anywhere near it to begin with).

I don't wish to add to the drama and have no desire to be a part of it. This is all I have currently to contribute to this BOI topic, as it pertains to the issue of proof. This will probably be my last post in this thread. Again, I'm sorry Tom, but you did this to yourself. The burden of full proof lies with you.
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Still want to edit Sister? Be friends again... ?
 
kris reiners said:
Haha Tom where is patrick and the rest of the conversation with him? keeping posting pics....
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Stop threatening Pat. DO IT WITH ME! Why won't you send me any personal messages bro? I'm waiting for you I'm in a give you 15 hours to send me a personal message and then I'm going to start with you.

You are a guppy in a big pond! I've been sitting quietly in the corner in the shade, and now I got you greendotted. ;)
 
Haha you and patrick a lost cause... asking for proof any of the snakes was sick? no proof!!! Go for it tom. You already told me to kill my self and patrick threatened me.
 
Tom Pecanic said:
If you are "ok" with this picture! Then there is something wrong with you! It's simple. So simple! This picture, makes me sick! Look at the water dish, closely! ;)
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So a fresh shed and a poop, which could have happened over night and spread around the cage and into the water, don't act like it's never happened to you.

Again where was this posted, how long ago, and what was the explination? I went threw all of his photos, did not find that photo. I have seen photos like these from other breeders who snap a quick picture of the fresh shed THEN clean the cage.
 
I believe that photo where it shows kris's name and the date to be edited. Any time I click on a photo on facebook it does not show a name, or date. It only shows a caption IF the person added one.
 
Tom Pecanic said:
Still want to edit Sister? Be friends again... ?
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I can't edit BOI posts, no one can. I'm withholding judgement. You rub a lot of people the wrong way, Tom, but I still personally like you. It pained me to post that information and I even waited several days mulling the decision over because BOI posts are permanent. I still haven't seen a smoking gun. Disjointed posts and out of context photos aren't enough to answer my questions, especially with all the excessive "noise" of emotional posts between posts containing what little substance there's been to this point.

I really don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just sitting on the sidelines trying to make sense of what is going on. My offer to help you organize your complaint in a logical way is still open. It seems you may be too emotionally involved in this issue to present your information in a clear and concise way? And I mean no insult by this, just an honest offer to help.

Skepticism doesn't necessarily mean people are against you, it simply means we don't see enough information to agree or disagree with your assessments. I am merely skeptical, not condemning.

To start, a clear and concise timeline (of complaints, snake death(s), etc.) posted in bullet-format would really help.

As for everyone else posting, I think it would be best to back off this thread for a bit until the requested information has been posted. Otherwise we are burying what little evidence has been provided so far in a sea irrelevant (and occasionally trolling) comments.
 
snowgyre said:
I can't edit BOI posts, no one can. I'm withholding judgement. You rub a lot of people the wrong way, Tom, but I still personally like you. It pained me to post that information and I even waited several days mulling the decision over because BOI posts are permanent. I still haven't seen a smoking gun. Disjointed posts and out of context photos aren't enough to answer my questions, especially with all the excessive "noise" of emotional posts between posts containing what little substance there's been to this point.

I really don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just sitting on the sidelines trying to make sense of what is going on. My offer to help you organize your complaint in a logical way is still open. It seems you may be too emotionally involved in this issue to present your information in a clear and concise way? And I mean no insult by this, just an honest offer to help.

Skepticism doesn't necessarily mean people are against you, it simply means we don't see enough information to agree or disagree with your assessments. I am merely skeptical, not condemning.

To start, a clear and concise timeline (of complaints, snake death(s), etc.) posted in bullet-format would really help.

As for everyone else posting, I think it would be best to back off this thread for a bit until the requested information has been posted. Otherwise we are burying what little evidence has been provided so far in a sea irrelevant (and occasionally trolling) comments.
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He was asking if you wanted to edit the "proof"
 
ElexisOrtiz said:
He was asking if you wanted to edit the "proof"
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ELEXIS please... Refrain from posting. I can't help, nobody can! You can't even post in a public group on FB WITHOUT being shredded! There is a reason for it. And it's showing here in your posts...

Vanessa, I'm unblocking you and sending you what Kris is doing to Patrick behind the scenes.

To you Kris; come get some with me Pal! Message me like that, I'm begging for it! Don't make me start it! ;)

Nobody likes you in the AZ groups because of your posts. It's simple!
 
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