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Inquiry KRIS REINERS ------ ARIZONA

I strongly feel tom edited that photo and put kris's name and a date on it. When he first posted it, there was nothing there, then after someone said "how do we know you didn't pull it off google" a picture with kris's name popped up, which on facebook for a long time now, when you click on a person's photo it does NOT show their name or a date, it only shows a caption IF they provide one. That's a cell phone screen shot bot a computer screen shot. So what I see he sees, that photo was EDITED


I saw the picture myself. I saw it while viewing his profile. he has since taken it down. In fact, I can no longer see it. But my phone definitely remembers it because it shows is in a preview window.
 

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I saw the picture myself. I saw it while viewing his profile. he has since taken it down. In fact, I can no longer see it. But my phone definitely remembers it because it shows is in a preview window.
Well then it's his photo, either way that in no way proves his animals are kept in unsanitary conditions. I've seen many people, even some that could be considered respected by a few and it's always "don't judge I'm about to clean the cage just wanted to snap a quick photo of a fresh shed"

I have had tubs look like that when I wake up and I clean them immediately. I have photos in my phone right now of right before I cleaned cages. The most recent is when my ball left a poop the length of my hand and yea I posted them to my group too lol

But his other photos show clean cages, clean water, which leads me to believe that's exactly that, a photo taken to show a fresh shed with the shed right next to the snake. People can form their opinions but I've seen these photos many times by people who take wonderful care of their snakes, this in no way proves his snakes are sick, if anything it shows a healthy snake that has pooped, shed in one piece, and dumped it's water and possibly got some poop in the water as well to make it look that way. Again I've had my own tubs look that way from a snake who had pooped while I was asleep.
 
Anyway, my opinion is nothing was proved in this thread at this point. The people claimed to be harmed were no-shows. No proof was posted that Kris is responsible for sending sick and/or dying animals.


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It is good to see the system working. Despite attempts to make this a trial by shenanigan, many members respecting the business nature of this forum continued to point out the lack of proof for the allegations made.
 
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It is good to see the system working. Despite attempts to make this a trial by shenanigan, many members respecting the business nature of this forum continued to point out the lack of proof for the allegations made.

Nicely put. But patrons here should agree that lack of proof is not always an automatic red flag with regard to scammers, which is what the skilled ones count on. I will say that this is not an arena that scammers take kindly to thanks to people like you Lucille as well as all who participate with a passion for keeping this industry honest. Webslave has created an arena unmatched by any other. In any case, we all know right from wrong. Extenuating circumstances, meh. There are many levels of right and wrong. I've been here long enough to see hotshots go bad, and potential bad guys go good. Thanks to Rich.
 
Nicely put. But patrons here should agree that lack of proof is not always an automatic red flag with regard to scammers, which is what the skilled ones count on. I will say that this is not an arena that scammers take kindly to thanks to people like you Lucille as well as all who participate with a passion for keeping this industry honest. Webslave has created an arena unmatched by any other. In any case, we all know right from wrong. Extenuating circumstances, meh. There are many levels of right and wrong. I've been here long enough to see hotshots go bad, and potential bad guys go good. Thanks to Rich.

Aw shucks, fellers....... :eek:
 
Just a head up when Tom Pecanic comes back he has threatened me, posted assault rifles to shoot me with with and other shit. I'm pissed what can I do? Shit dont stop and Im tired of it been going on since the 24th he posted this. What should I do?
 
Just a head up when Tom Pecanic comes back he has threatened me, posted assault rifles to shoot me with with and other shit. I'm pissed what can I do? Shit dont stop and Im tired of it been going on since the 24th he posted this. What should I do?

Not sure how your local Sheriffs view "internet threats" but here in Florida, certain counties take it as seriously as an actual bodily threat and WILL act upon it accordingly.
Have you tried to contact your local PD to see if there is anything they can or will do?
 
good guy shout out to Pat kline.

I just wanted to give a good guy shout out to Pat Kline of Luxurious leopard Geckos. I just received a 1.4 group of pure fascio Leo's from pat , the Leo's arrived in fantastic shape and health and I am 110% satisfied with my purchase , Pat has excellent customer service and went above and beyond the call of duty to get me this group . Thank you Pat .
 
I just wanted to give a good guy shout out to Pat Kline of Luxurious leopard Geckos. I just received a 1.4 group of pure fascio Leo's from pat , the Leo's arrived in fantastic shape and health and I am 110% satisfied with my purchase , Pat has excellent customer service and went above and beyond the call of duty to get me this group . Thank you Pat .
How about you start your own thread and not post in a thread that has nothing to do with that person?
 
How about you check to see if he did already instead of bitching at him to do something he already did?
When I commented he didnt. This was the one at the top and there was nothing about the person he praised.

Btw all I did was tell him to make his own thread not throw in something that doesn't pertain to this topic. Call that what you will I really couldn't care less. Now stop derailing this thread even more than it already has been. Have a good day.
 
When I commented he didnt. This was the one at the top and there was nothing about the person he praised.

Btw all I did was tell him to make his own thread not throw in something that doesn't pertain to this topic. Call that what you will I really couldn't care less. Now stop derailing this thread even more than it already has been. Have a good day.

Your comment occurred at 9:20pm my time on the 16th and his thread was posted on 4:03pm my time on the 16th.
 
Your comment occurred at 9:20pm my time on the 16th and his thread was posted on 4:03pm my time on the 16th.
Well excuse my phone for saying 21 hours ago on both. I really don't care when he commented and IF he made the other comment in the correct post why would he put it HERE? So you guys can go ahead and keep making it a big deal or you can stop derailing this thread with it.
 
Well excuse my phone for saying 21 hours ago on both. I really don't care when he commented and IF he made the other comment in the correct post why would he put it HERE? So you guys can go ahead and keep making it a big deal or you can stop derailing this thread with it.

He made an honest mistake in this thread at 3:54pm on the 16th. Then he made his thread correctly at 4:03pm. You weighed in regarding his mistake at 9:20pm.

You chose to derail it further and kindled his spark. Now you are getting huffy about it being pointed out by others.

Not a big deal, but there was no particular need to chastise him for what was obviously a simple error.

I think I have explained this thoroughly enough (if not, oh well) at this point for me to move on.
 
He made an honest mistake in this thread at 3:54pm on the 16th. Then he made his thread correctly at 4:03pm. You weighed in regarding his mistake at 9:20pm.

You chose to derail it further and kindled his spark. Now you are getting huffy about it being pointed out by others.

Not a big deal, but there was no particular need to chastise him for what was obviously a simple error.

I think I have explained this thoroughly enough (if not, oh well) at this point for me to move on.
I have watched you guys do the exact same thing. But I have to be the villain it's ok. Have a great day
 
that's enough with the off topic posting please, and no need to respond to this post saying 'okay' or adding more back and forth.
 
that is exactly how Tom will treat you I tried to buy some snakes from him at one point in time ask him what morphs they were and he replied with foul language that I was an idiot stupid didn't know what I was talking about if you disagree with him all he will do is try to make bad threads about you and write bad BIOS steer clear of Tom not a very good businessman
 
Just a head up when Tom Pecanic comes back he has threatened me, posted assault rifles to shoot me with with and other shit. I'm pissed what can I do? Shit dont stop and Im tired of it been going on since the 24th he posted this. What should I do?

Really? tome has been posting his ARs forever. I have done it myself. It is not a threat to no one. He likes his guns and he likes his snakes. He posts the pictures.

Why don't you show us his threats?

Since you can't figure out how to block him, maybe, just maybe, you can figure out how to take screen shots. You are a grown man. Or so I thought.

And if you are really tired of this stuff, why do you keep trying to join the page that kicked you out? The same page where all the AZ Ball Breeders hang out. the same page that you make fun of because we are only ball breeders. I think what you are truly looking for is drama. That is what I think :yesnod:
 
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