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Feb 15th 2011 I was browsing Hoobly & came across an ad selling an adult female Pastel (possibly Pastave) Ball Python for $600. Upon inspection of the photo in the ad I determined the snake couldn't possibly be either, but emailed the seller anyway to see if I could 1) get more pictures and 2) inform them since it could be a beginner's mistake. Through email correspondence, I received 2 more photos of the snake - as I thought before, the snake appears to be completely normal.

I responded explaining the snake was not a Pastel (or Pastave) & appeared to be a Normal Ball Python. I also sent a few photos of true Pastels to help him see the difference on his own. I knew he was online as he had just responded to me before, but after my 2nd email he never responded. I figured I'd give it a few days to make a decision on whether or not to bring it to the BOI.

Yesterday (Feb 19th) I decided to email him again through Hoobly to make sure he did indeed get my 2nd email. Within an hour he had responded, claiming I am wrong about the snake. At this point I am feeling this needs to be brought here to make people aware that this could possibly be a scam. I responded to him & we've had a few back & forth's which I am posting screenshots of below.

**I want to make this clear that I am not accusing Latta of being a scammer. He may very well just be a beginner or someone not keen on morphs yet. I just feel that either way, this needs to be brought to the public's attention.

Screenshots

The original ad - link here: http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/1618756.html
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photo from the ad
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additional photos he sent (screenshot of the page) - 1st link here: http://tinypic.com/r/11253b5/7
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2nd link here: http://tinypic.com/r/24njt6u/7
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Emails:
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from here on out the seller gets a bit hostile, which gives me a bad feeling on the entire deal.

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That is all for now. If I do receive more information pertaining to this thread I will post more.
 
A breeder with more than 10 yrs experience that wishes he could afford a pastave? :rolf:
 
hhmoore said:
A breeder with more than 10 yrs experience that wishes he could afford a pastave? :rolf:
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In that remark he was actually mocking the 10 years I said I had, and then in the next breath mentioned a breeder (unknown experience) saying they wished they could afford a Pastave. Of course, I think I'd be looking elsewhere if a "breeder" thought the snake in question was a Pastave. That person either has really bad eyes, or no experience with morphs :rolleyes:
 
I like the last part where they say they wish you'd quit being a patrol officer god for the herp community.....lol

I guess that would make it easier to lie to unknowing people.
 
This is why I didn't know her exact genetics...because the guy who sold her to me was actually selling two pastels, as he claimed, which I bought for 200.

Thanks, Abigail, for violating my wishes and making this ad more public than I originally cared for.

Seeing as how I do not have the time for multiple responses / discussions in a large public community about the apparent genetics of the snake, I would appreciate it if no one contacted me about her unless a purchase is the intent of the other party.

Thanks, FC!

-Latta
 
Abby said:
In that remark he was actually mocking the 10 years I said I had, and then in the next breath mentioned a breeder (unknown experience) saying they wished they could afford a Pastave. Of course, I think I'd be looking elsewhere if a "breeder" thought the snake in question was a Pastave. That person either has really bad eyes, or no experience with morphs :rolleyes:
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...or they would simply be able to note the obvious relationship between her and the one linked in the picture - even if she has browned out with age.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71171&stc=1&d=1235165764
 
klattaclarinet said:
...or they would simply be able to note the obvious relationship between her and the one linked in the picture - even if she has browned out with age.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71171&stc=1&d=1235165764
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The thing is she does not resemble that snake. From all 3 pictures you sent, she looks like a nice normal. Even the most severely browned out pastels/pastaves do not look like that (and yes, even with bad photos.)
 
klattaclarinet said:
I do not know her exact genetics, but she appears to be a pastave (pastel x mojave) but regardless is an obvious pastel gene carrier or something of the sort.
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Just a personal observation, I would not pay 600 bucks for a 'something of the sort'.

klattaclarinet said:
I would appreciate it if no one contacted me about her unless a purchase is the intent of the other party.
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I really don't think you have anything to worry about. You've made it obvious that you are selling something you don't know much about, and only interested in money. I don't think you will be able to sell anything here after this.
 
What exactly is a "pastel gene carrier"??? :shrug01: Since pastel is co-dom, either it's a pastel or it AIN'T! And the one on the messy bathroom counter AIN'T a pastel; it's certainly not a pastave!!
 
Matt2979 said:
What exactly is a "pastel gene carrier"??? :shrug01: Since pastel is co-dom, either it's a pastel or it AIN'T! And the one on the messy bathroom counter AIN'T a pastel; it's certainly not a pastave!!
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You'd know better then most id there was the mojo gene in there :rofl:

And is it just me, or was the ball she linked still a baby? I might wrong, but it looked like it couldn't be over 300grams. So it wasn't browning out yet.
 
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