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Legalities of Fish & Game Regulations

Beyond the Web

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I just got off the phone with Warden Simpson, California Fish & Game Officer for the San Joaquin Valley branch.

He has already spoken to Wes Pollock of Los Angeles and he has told him, as Warden Simpson told me, "if you're not a government entity, don't call me. If you wish to file a complain about Peter's suspected illegal animals, you can do so as instructed and we'll look into it. But we can no longer get involved now that the transaction took place. We are not going after you."

I then proceeded to ask, "is there anything else I need to do, whether it'd be to contact another agency or a reference number to this call so I may use it in the future to proof I have spoken with you about this issue?" He quickly responded, "No."

I have done my part, and in return I expect everyone so interestingly involved in this case to follow up with their moderator-allowed deragatory statements and prejudice, which is fine by me and the United States Amendment Rights.

Most will more than likely be upset about not having to pay a fine, or incarceration time. However, this is my last attempt, to correct those individuals who continue their blatant attacks towards me. I have absolutely no interest in continuing this 3rd thread about the illegal transaction that took place and likewise no interest in continuing my membership with this forum.

Continue asking if you will, and continue to provoke me into answering by calling me a coward, or a dick, or a liar. You will receive no response.

Once again, to remind Wes Pollock in Warden Simpson's own words, "if you're not a government entity, don't call me." I hope you, too, have learned your lesson. If you wish to be some kind of investigator, then go earn it (along with the rest of your pack).
 
And by the way...

After reading one of your posts on my other thread, Wes stated:

ol' petey boy said to Warden Simpson that he did NOT ship that sidewinder to Arizona

You are WRONG and YOU ARE A LIAR. I never denied to Warden Simpson the shipment of such specimen. That specimen is now dead from what was a possible parasite, photographs were taken by Adam to confirm that.

Also, on another note brought forth by David Gruning,
Pete does illegal activities and lies to cover his actions yet the persons who persisted after him are wrong.

I do NOT practice illegal activities, my door is open to you as well as any other enforcement official, this was ONE bad transaction and it was illegal after the fact.

And one last request, if you're going to pick a fight with someone out of state, Wes, isn't very mature of you. Like I said before, I live only 120 miles north of your city, I know the vicinity because I was raised in Hollywood (Fountain Ave & Vine St), graduated from Fairfax High School in West Hollywood near the Beverly Center Mall. I know the city, and I know your type. If you're going to pick a fight, be smart and pick a fight with someone who lives near you.

I still don't have an address. Of course, you're not man enough to provide such information.
 
Here is the side winder peter sent me:
 

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This is gonna be a interesting thread..

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He has already spoken to Wes Pollock of Los Angeles and he has told him, as Warden Simpson told me, "if you're not a government entity, don't call me.
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Wes, is this true, did the warden tell you this? Why did you Omit that in all your posts??


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I have done my part, and in return I expect everyone so interestingly involved in this case to follow up with their moderator-allowed deragatory statements and prejudice
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I give it 5 minutes before they start bombarding you with more questions and such!!!


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I still don't have an address. Of course, you're not man enough to provide such information.
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I wonder if Wes will actually give you his address so you two can "TALK" this thing over, but I highly doubt it.




Pete, I dont know what actually happened between you and adam or if anyone else will ever know. I do think you should have been more honest and forth coming right out of the gate... It would have saved all of us from reading a few hundred posts and most of all swelling Wes's head some more because it did seem you were proving him right by all the question dodging. What you did was wrong and I hope you learned from it and hope that for your sake and the sake of everyone in the hobby you dont do it again. (it would be pretty stupid to do it again with all these "eyes" watching you.). I do hope you turn out to be a good guy because we have way too many bad guys around these days. If its true what you said concerning warden simpson and you worked things out then good for you, if it isnt then you should before its too late.I dont know who was lying or telling the truth, so i will not make an idiot of myself but rather sit back and watch the event unfold, things usually clear up over time and the truth always comes out.


Wes..Are you gonna give him that addy??
 
he has told him, as Warden Simpson told me, "if you're not a government entity, don't call me.
you do realize that govvvernment entities do frequent this site... fish and game among other and not just this site prolly most of the larger websites are monitored
 
What a crock of...

Beyond the Web said:
I do NOT practice illegal activities, my door is open to you as well as any other enforcement official, this was ONE bad transaction and it was illegal after the fact.

That statement is a contradiction and a farce. It was illegal period. Before, during and after the fact. Are you that pathological? Do you think anyone with the IQ over 15 believes your crap? Why don't you and you buddy Adam do yourselves a favor and disappear for a while until you have grown up and learn how to tell the truth. You are both pathetic liars who will probably never get a clue.
 
It was all heresay until now..

Adam, this whole thing was heresay legally on both your parts and your word against any one elses as far as any legal authority is concerned. Now that you have posted a Picture of the animal on a public forum it can be used against you in a court of law as evidence in any proceeding against you or Pete. Federal law allows any photo on a public forum, site, or host to be used in court. I think you are adding fuel to the fire.
 
Nick as I said in my last post on Public apology

If there are any consequences then I am prepared to accept them

I too have already spoken with Game and Fish they tell me I am in no danger the damage is done and they just hope I wont do it again.

People have stated there is a file on me and there is nothing of the sort!


Let people tell let people say all they want I am fine and if not then again let the punishment come im ready!

I broke the law and If I get in trouble then thats the way it has to be.
 
Pete

I am incredibly disgusted by your posts here...you claim some sort of innocence, parade around a bunch of factoids, and then show us a pic of a snake that obviously died in bad hands.
What is up in your head? Are you insane?

If you hate and despise this forum so much, why oh why do you keep on posting here? I for one, could get by much better every day without your whining rambles about Christ, your personal problems, etc.

Please just go away, or shut up.

greg
 
I had the snake for all of 3 or 4 days there was nothing I did to kill it do you see the big green spot on the belly of the snake liver faliure takes more then 3 or 4 days to kill a snake.


So in no way was it my fualt.

And I did not post it to be funny let it alone

Peter said it was dead just to confirm it I posted the pics

Thats the only reason for them

Please just get over your self
and come down off of you soap box

Thank you
 
All they had too do

from the get go was "get their STORIES straight" and stick too it. Like Pete could have called Adam and said hey dumb ass, why did you let it slip that I shipped you a Sidewinder! you need say you were just kidding because you read previous threads concerning this type of thing, and wanted to get a rise out of the beat down crew....sorry.....was dumb....never happen again.....then Pete could have come on to admonish Adam for his "Joking", and how it jeprodized his fledgling Spider dealie and threatened to "never have anything else to do with you"...followed by further denial on top of more denial to the more inquisitive among us, like wilomn and DAND, who would have went semi-away after further denial and no more fuel being added to the fire. Alas..they continued to run their fingers across their keyboards trying to stumble and bumble their way out of it while leaving a trail of bread crumbs for Wilomn to eat up. They both wound up tangled in Petes WEB OF DECEPTION...If your going to spin a web of deception, SPIN it the right way!
 
i cant believe that pete and adam actually think that they just magically are going to be forgotten by the authorities.
i also think that responsible govt authorities peruse these types of websites just hoping to come upon a juicy morsel such as this thread right here.
 
The odd couple...The Mexican and the skin head

Strange how these two have now joined forces even after Petey jumped ship on Adam before.

Quote: 12-22-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Beyond the Web
now I'm on the other side of the fence. Primarily because I'm MEXICAN. And knowing now, according to Adam's previous statements on skinheads and racism, then you've got yourself dug a deeper hole buddy because if I would have known this prior to our transaction, I wouldn't have considered doing business with you at all.

Now you've got everyone against you Adam, so thanks a lot for making that statement. I warned you about your postings before getting in trouble, and now you've got me against you by making such racist remarks. It's a shame, Adam, because I never knew you were racist. Did you ever see my last name? It is PEREZ. That means I'm not white.

I'm outta here. Now I know what he's truly all about. I apologize for offending anyone else if I did, it was not my intention and I've only judged Adam in regards to our deal.


This is who you are siding with now Petey. Like a fish out of water you flip flop.
 
Pete: "Adam, tell them it was a lyre snake, not a cobra"

Adam: "ok, you mudman, but you owe me one."

Pete: "Adam, if I didn't need to conduct illegal activities, I wouldn't be dealing with you, for you are a racist."

Adam: " go *%*&^()*&()_&*)_ yourself."
 
cthulhu77 said:
Pete: "Adam, tell them it was a lyre snake, not a cobra"

Adam: "ok, you mudman, but you owe me one."

Pete: "Adam, if I didn't need to conduct illegal activities, I wouldn't be dealing with you, for you are a racist."

Adam: " go *%*&^()*&()_&*)_ yourself."


:rofl: :rofl: Great minds! I was thinking something VERY similar to this...good one! (I wouldn't have thought of the "mudman" bit, though...that's classic!)
 
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