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Leopard Gecko Registry; Unneeded Bureaucracy?

O! Just to let everyone know! The stamp I've been waiting on finally arrived (go figure after I said something about it)! Breeder Certs and information packets will be in the mail this coming week...If you would like to register a gecko or two to see examples of the certs in your hands, please email me and I will hold onto your packet until I receive a Specimen Registration form (http://leopardgeckoregistry.com/register.html) and the two required photos (dorsal view and closeup head shot).
 
KelliH said:
Or perhaps just another place to have a link to one's website.
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I was rereading this thread and came up with something I wanted to reply to...

I'm not sure if this was intentially meant that the LGR would be used simply as another place to have a website advertised (IE linked)...but their are going to be restrictions as to whether or not an individual will remain an active LGR Registered Breeder. While we will not delete an individual for any reason from the registry, if a particular person does not participate in the LGR (IE registering geckos, discussion forums, etc) they will be put on "inactive" status and not linked but listed on the LGR with an "inactive" notation. We want participation from the Leo community.
 
I'm not sure if this was intentially meant that the LGR would be used simply as another place to have a website advertised (IE linked)...but their are going to be restrictions as to whether or not an individual will remain an active LGR Registered Breeder. While we will not delete an individual for any reason from the registry, if a particular person does not participate in the LGR (IE registering geckos, discussion forums, etc) they will be put on "inactive" status and not linked but listed on the LGR with an "inactive" notation. We want participation from the Leo community.
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Ok, how about you go ahead and delete me then. Thanks.
 
That of course is your choice, but I wanted to point out that I think it is unfair to "use" the LGR as a free advertising tool. It is meant to be a larger thing then free advertising for an individual person. It takes participation from the entire community and we want to provide something that everyone will benefit from. I was in no way shape or form pointing you out specifically, I hope you accept my apology if you feel that I was pointing fingers.
 
That of course is your choice, but I wanted to point out that I think it is unfair to "use" the LGR as a free advertising tool. It is meant to be a larger thing then free advertising for an individual person. It takes participation from the entire community and we want to provide something that everyone will benefit from. I was in no way shape or form pointing you out specifically, I hope you accept my apology if you feel that I was pointing fingers.
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No problem :) Good luck with your project.
 
like i said. its a good idea for someone like me in the future. but ive only got 3 geckos. and i only know the origins of two of them. i cant really understand the point in me eregistering, paying, and participating with 3 lizards. kelli, marcia, dan l, and all of those folks are the targeted audience id presume.
 
Stef, I think this makes more sense to me now, so let me see if I understand correctly.

Since all of my leos are from someone other than the original breeders they will be listed as adult breeders as a new line or breeder. That would be easier than tracing them all abck to the original seller.

Then their offspring will be registered for $5 each and when I sell these babies I need to do a transfer to the buyer.

Ok so I breed male #245 to female #567 then get a baby, I then send you 2 photos of the baby to get its registration # with $5 then if and when sold do a transfer to the buyer.

This is really beginning to sound like a good way to help me keep hatching records and not have to dig threw tons of paper to remember who is who and who came from what breeder.
 
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see, my point exactly. for you its a bonus, for me, sorry to say this stef i really am, but waste. maybe in a few years itd be something worthwhile for those who have 20+ breeders.
 
like i said. its a good idea for someone like me in the future. but ive only got 3 geckos. and i only know the origins of two of them. i cant really understand the point in me eregistering, paying, and participating with 3 lizards. kelli, marcia, dan l, and all of those folks are the targeted audience id presume.
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You don't have to know the orgins of the three you have. :) If you were to register your three, you would be starting a new "line" in the family tree! Any hatchling you produced from those three would then be registered as well, and so on and so forth. You would have an established line that others can research. If you register your current geckos now and acquire any new geckos before January 2007 and wish to register them, it's free! :) I think the really neat thing about this, eventually you're going to be able to see online how all the geckos are connected.

Since all of my leos are from someone other than the original breeders they will be listed as adult breeders as a new line or breeder. That would be easier than tracing them all abck to the original seller.
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Exactly! :)

Then their offspring will be registered for $5 each and when I sell these babies I need to do a transfer to the buyer. Ok so I breed male #245 to female #567 then get a baby, I then send you 2 photos of the baby to get its registration # with $5 then if and when sold do a transfer to the buyer.
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This is the fun part of explaining how the LGR works with hatchlings...and it's a bit difficult for me to explain so please tell me if you don't understand. Their is another form available for online submission...A Pre-Registration Form which is used for breeders to register the hatchlings they are planning to sell. It is simply an additional way to verify a hatchling came from a particular breeder. Two sets of stickers would be supplied to the Breeder per pre-registration to place on the deli cup of the sold geckos and onto the Specimen Registration form for the new owner to submit to the LGR (with the necassary registration fees). The cost to the breeder is $0.50 a head. So to pre-register 100 hatchlings, it would be $50 rather then doing a full specimen registration at $500.

We are thinking of a way to give registration "credits" to breeders (much like the ACR did) who use the pre-registration option and have buyers who actually register their geckos. Something along the lines of for every pre-registration that results in a successful specimen registration you get one "credit," after you get 5 "credits the breeder receives a free registration for themselves.
 
no, i know ewhre 2 of them came from, dan L. and his lines. the other is a local tremper from a reptile shop by me. so what do i have to do to register them?
 
Register as an LGR breeder here...
http://www.leopardgeckoregistry.com/breeder.html

Register each one of your geckos here...
http://www.leopardgeckoregistry.com/register.html

If you do not have information such as the Breeder ID Number (which can be found here http://www.leopardgeckoregistry.com/breederlist.html) or the parents Registered ID Numbers, that's fine! Again, it would be a whole new line.

This is however the old specimen registration form. It's a tad bit more confusing then the new one...but the new one is hooked up with the new programming, so if anyone registers a gecko useing the old form, I will be inputting them by hand once everyone is hooked up with user name and passwords.
 
Tom I think your Tremper can be classified as a "Tremper-line /Petshop/NY Albino" then. LOL

It is interesting, I will participate and just see where it goes. I only hope more will join in.

**Little off topic here, but it could tie- in I guess**
Now we just need to get Leopard Gecko-, calendars, cards, placemats, mouspads, T-shirts, you name it, and get some Gecko-shows going! LOL Y`know like they have all these things w/ other pets on them. :)

Everyone has seen a cat, dog, birds, fish, even small 'furries'... But how many people have you encountered that have NEVER even seen a nice Leo? When I do, they say 'OMG they are so beautiful! Where do they come from, etc X3?'

This is an animal that deserves more respect and recognition as a great, amazing, and beautiful pet. We dont have a chance with the representation, and lower quality of animals that come from some petstores. How many people will NEVER even look at those 'lizards' in the tanks, etc., or even see our websites, or go to a show? Shouldnt we try to do something to increase recognition of these Geckos to EVERYONE?

I know they are popular but...
Just imagine if more people were introduced to them, and NOT through the chainstores. Imagine if they learned, that they are calm and friendly critters, and not 'wild lizards' which seems to be the stereotype from alot of people, directed at all lizards. Well... at least there is now a geico commercial with a Leopard, and thats a start.
 
Thinking big but...

Imagine next year, we see a calendar in the Petco, w/ a Super Snow, next to a Super Snow Bell Albino, or something???
 
Just so you know where I am coming from…I am a registered breeder with the American Cornsnake Registry with about 60 animals pending registration. I only have a few leos right now and am not currently planning on breeding them on a large scale.

If I am not mistaken, the idea of having a corn snake registry was created after certain corn snake forum members created much stink about the “purity” of corn snake lines. For example, years and years ago taxonomy was different and emoryi rat snakes were considered to be a western race of corn snake. Therefore these now separate species were bred together and some offspring may not have been designated as hybrids. (Because back then they weren’t considered to be hybrids) So to this day there could be corn snakes out there being bred and/or sold with a minute trace of emoryi blood in them…. unbeknownst to the sellers and buyers. To many of us, this is not something to lose sleep over. There is nothing we can do about it…I am not aware of a way to test the DNA of our corn snakes to make sure there is not one drop of emoryi blood in there.

So as far as I know, we cannot go back and verify the ancestry (and therefore “purity”) of every single corn snake we currently have, but starting with 2005 we were given the opportunity to record everything we DO know about our animals by registering them with the ACR. These records will be available for all to see, and this way it establishes (or adds to the) credibility of those breeders registered. Plus as time goes by and more and more offspring are registered…there will be “family trees” created so people will be able to view which snakes are related.

With all that said, I am not aware of there being any “purity” issues with leopard geckos. If not, then obviously the leo registry is not starting up for the same reasons as the ACR. However, Stef is also a registered with the ACR, and my first thought is that after realizing the benefits that could come from such a registry, she just wanted to establish something similar for leopard geckos.

Yeah it is a lot of work, and the corn snake world is lucky to have certain individuals handling most of the load. But I think it’s a great thing and am thrilled to be part of it. I look forward to seeing it grow as offspring continue to be registered.
 
hwo do i register my geckos without father or mother id? like ym tremper for instance. or dans i ncase hes not registered?
 
TripleMoonsExotic said:
I was rereading this thread and came up with something I wanted to reply to...

I'm not sure if this was intentially meant that the LGR would be used simply as another place to have a website advertised (IE linked)...but their are going to be restrictions as to whether or not an individual will remain an active LGR Registered Breeder. While we will not delete an individual for any reason from the registry, if a particular person does not participate in the LGR (IE registering geckos, discussion forums, etc) they will be put on "inactive" status and not linked but listed on the LGR with an "inactive" notation. We want participation from the Leo community.
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Let the bureaucracy and controlling of peoples actions begin!! This is exactly the type of thing that people don't want to be a part of.

Except of course those who are trying to do the controlling.
 
shrap. i dont see the point of that. it shouldnt be used as a free advertisisng link. imo it should be used the way it was designed to be used. like, you wouldnt swallowa sopository would you?
 
Tom,

You are missing the bigger picture, but I aint mad at you.

As far as the suppository goes, I am a very unconventional guy and live by the old trial and error method of getting results. So who knows.... :)
 
lol i wasnt trying to be hostile. i jsut stated that to simply become a par tof the LGR to use it as free advertising space isnt really repsecting it and the way its meant to be used. the metaphore came to mind only cuz i got done watching futurama
 
Tom, I was completely laughing as I was typing that..... like I said, I aint mad at you.

I just have a different view point about the Registry than you do and it has absolutely nothing to do with the advertising aspect of it.
 
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