Hey, I am trying to find out if this male Liasis is a Macklott's or a Fuscus and it was suggested that I come here to ask. He was sold to me as a Fuscus but doubts have risen. I'm happy with him either way but I would like to know for sure.
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Liasis identification
- Thread starter Nari
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Seamus Haley
Big Game Hunter
Strictly my opinion. Based on what I know and what I can see in the photos, I'm inclined to say Macklot's.
The mackloti tend to have a flatter, broader head to the fuscus' more cylindrical shape.
The scalation can shift a bit from animal to animal but the supralabial scales look more like a macklots- fuscustend to have one that runs pretty much the length of the eye, macklots usually have two sharing that spot. I couldn't see it clearly in your photos but I'd take a look for a small centered scale between the frontal and prefrontal scales as well, it's associated with mackloti and not with fuscus.
Keep in mind before ripping into the person who sold it that- First of all, looking at three photos and hazarding a guess isn't the same as a definitive 100% accurate analysis... That there are a lot of Liasis sp. in captivity which are a result of specific and subspecific crossing... and finally that not all taxonomists even think that these are a separate species, so the differences and tendencies which do exist in scalation are a tough call.
Seamus Haley
Big Game Hunter
LOL Dude, I am not about to reach into a bag containing two angry Liasis with my bare hand! 
Thanks for the advice, I'll take a closer look at the scales over his head, I wasn't exactly sure what I was looking for before.
And no worries, I've no intention of chewing out the breeder, he was good to deal with. And this python is a pretty good animal either way.
Thanks for your help!
Thanks for the advice, I'll take a closer look at the scales over his head, I wasn't exactly sure what I was looking for before.
And no worries, I've no intention of chewing out the breeder, he was good to deal with. And this python is a pretty good animal either way.
Thanks for your help!
Jasin
New member
That is definately a Macklots. I have been keeping and breeding waters(Liasis Fuscus) for over 10 years, and that is no way a water. Waters have NO pattern or speckling, they are one solid color on the dorsal, and their ventral side is white,orange, or yellow. Hope this helps.
