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Bad Guy Lisha Stearns aka aboaslife is a liar and a thief.

Kevin, unfortunately it seems like Lisha will not make good on any part of these deals with you. You'll probably just need to write it all off as a loss.

Your thread will most likely help others, though. People can see what to expect when dealing with Lisha, and the discovery of the unhealthy collection she sells/trades out of can hopefully save at least one person from introducing her snakes' issues into their own collection by avoiding a purchase/trade with her.
 
Bagged1 said:
Lisha has already offered to make good on facebook all Kevin has to do is give her the address to send cashiers check to
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this statement falls under the category of an anonymous third party quote; prove it with a screenshot.

Why has Lisha not offered that here?
 
If she really did offer to send casheirs check, come over here and offer it here.
Quit being so difficult and saying she offered it at a page somewhere else. At least post screenshot of it here.

And to you. If she is truly offering to send casheir's check, give her the darn addy already. Why make it as difficult as you can? You already took forever to send pictures. Then you state it did not matter because the snake was dead. It matters, because it shows you are not forthcoming with the truth.

You are BOTH acting like a couple that is going through a divorce and out to make it as difficult as you can for the other.

Bobby if you truly have a second account then read this, I am not admin and nothing gets deleted so do not send me messages on fb anymore. Specially not incoherent, grammatically incorrect, spelling error filled, no punctuation run on paragraphs. What part of nothing gets deleted don't you understand? And you got banned for threatening the owner and or website, not because you posted a simple screen shot.
 
HerpVenue said:
You are BOTH acting like a couple that is going through a divorce and out to make it as difficult as you can for the other.
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Robert Walker said:
This sums it up for me too.
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:iagree:

but, I think there is a bigger issue at play, the type of issue that kills ENTIRE collections if not properly taken care of: pathogens

Lisha has been strangely silent about this, despite her admission of lots of dead snakes. once again:
j_dunlavy said:
There are a lot of unanswered questions here. Good husbandry practices would have Lisha getting her snakes to a vet and diagnosed. If you (Lisha) said you "lost a lot of snakes this past year not sure why" that indicates you may not have sought a vet; care to explain?
Have any of your ailing snakes been seen by a vet?
Have any been necropsied?
Are/were you still selling snakes while you were having other snakes die of some sort of pathogen?
What are you (Lisha) going to do to ensure that you are not spreading some sort of deadly pathogen?
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maybe she is afraid it will hurt business to pull ads because of a potential pathogen?
The way the subject is being avoided is going to make her look much worse than if she admitted there could be something going on, and took action to stop and identify whether there is a disease brewing.
That is what a professional would do: address and remedy issues with the animals (and customers, for that matter).
 
HerpVenue said:
You already took forever to send pictures. Then you state it did not matter because the snake was dead. It matters, because it shows you are not forthcoming with the truth.

You are BOTH acting like a couple that is going through a divorce and out to make it as difficult as you can for the other.
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This may end up being one of those threads where no one wants to do business with either party after reading the thread.



j_dunlavy said:
:iagree:

but, I think there is a bigger issue at play, the type of issue that kills ENTIRE collections if not properly taken care of: pathogens
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I agree.





KORBIN5895 said:
the bloody salmon she sent me she had recently acquired from John at Salmon boa.
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I'm wondering if there are problems with the quarantine process at her place, if properly quarantined the snake should not have picked up pathogens from her collection, if that is what happened.
Lisha, in my opinion you should stop selling, consult a vet, and figure out why some of your snakes are dying.
Kevin, this has been a long thread, did you ever take the snake that died to the vet while it was ailing?
 
First off the only time I have seen her request my address was to ship the ghost back. I have not been on fb today so if she is now claiming she was asking to send me a check then that is news to me.

Secondly I am not familiar with cashier checks and I am a little leary of a check that could be lost in the mail.
 
Have her send it to you USPS "Return Receipt", you have to sign for it and it is tracked. Odds of it getting lost are super super slim.
 
KORBIN5895 said:
First off the only time I have seen her request my address was to ship the ghost back. I have not been on fb today so if she is now claiming she was asking to send me a check then that is news to me.

Secondly I am not familiar with cashier checks and I am a little leary of a check that could be lost in the mail.
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Ok first off here is Kevin admitting that info on the Bloody salmon was requested at an earlier date. Also why say you haven't been on fb today? You know that is a lie, she offered you a cashiers check for the ghost to resolve issues, she has also been asking for sex of the bloody salmon since at least May, you neglected to provide proof so who's to say the snake hasn't been dead longer than two weeks? It seems like we keep recieving info from you at your convenience,and not always accurate info.
 

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Corey we all understand you have an ax to grind for Lisha.

When I haven't been on Facebook since early this morning and never saw her say anything about her sending a cashiers check.

Secondly I posted pics of the bloody salmon back in May. Since those at the Facebook groups have deleted or reported every thread I have posted there those are gone.

I believe I still have the photos from May on my phone but I believe there is a way to see what date they were taken by info attached to the photo.

Now instead of trying to discredit me pull your head out of your :bleep: and look at the actual proof..... of which Lisha has posted none. She still hasn't answered Wes' s question about when she first wanted proof of it being a male.
 
Money should be returned in the way received, if Lisha accepts paypal payments, then she should have no reservations about using it to send Kevin a refund. I personally Iike to have electronic records of my cash, because outside of the snake room and lab, I am probably the most disorganized person to walk the earth. With that said, I might be willing to make an exception if it meant getting someone like the accused out of my life. Robert is right though, there should be full tracking info if this route is pursued. And yes, at this point neither party is in line for any prizes.
 
KORBIN5895 said:
Corey we all understand you have an ax to grind for Lisha.

When I haven't been on Facebook since early this morning and never saw her say anything about her sending a cashiers check.

Secondly I posted pics of the bloody salmon back in May. Since those at the Facebook groups have deleted or reported every thread I have posted there those are gone.

I believe I still have the photos from May on my phone but I believe there is a way to see what date they were taken by info attached to the photo.

Now instead of trying to discredit me pull your head out of your :bleep: and look at the actual proof..... of which Lisha has posted none. She still hasn't answered Wes' s question about when she first wanted proof of it being a male.
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Iv never met either Lisha or yourself Kevin, in fact I'm friends with neither of you. I just read the comments from multiple sources and see how shady of a character you are, you refused to post proof for the longest time, when you finally did you casually admitted the snake died a couple weeks ago. You've been withholding information on this thread and refusing any resolution Lisha gives.
 
Kevin you went on Facebook today and made posts then you deleted them and said you didn't post today but people screenshoted you so there's another lie out of you. Your a joke.
I wouldn't give you anything because all you want to do is play games. Lishas boa sales aren't gonna be harmed by you at all because your the untrustworthy side in this deal. good riddance im done with this thread you have been caught red handed lying to many times.
 
Why is Lisha not here speaking for herself?

The attacks on Kevin continue, but I don't see Lisha here straightening this out.
 
Catfish44 said:
To send you your snake back Kevin.
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First off love the signature.

If you were to be completely honest she never mentioned returning my ghost until her lackeys pointed out that she could get one cheaper than actually paying off this debt. If she was serious about returning my ghost then she could easily send me the $400 I requested as a good faith she will actually return my snake.

Secondly I am not keen on giving her my address as I personally feel she will just send the snake back and never bother sending the check.

I have made my case and posted my proof and as soon as I get confirmation from a vet I will post that either way.
 
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