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LIve stock exporters in cameroon are scam artist

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I got sucked in again by another company in Africa, this time Cameroon, they kept emailing me telling me how they needed someone to trust them and how they were honest and truly wanted to start a respectful business relationship, and me like a dummy trusted them and they sucked me in good, another couple of thousand gone!!
they even make you false documents so you believe them and tell stories about how they have the animals in some government quarentine but when I asked for proof all I got was fake numbers or when asked about it they danced around the subject. they even try to send me a fake AWB number thinkign I wouldnt call and verify the AWB number!

watch out for

SALLY NGOWO
livestock exporters cameroon.
BOX 321 limbe
cameroon.

and

Kulu Daniel,
livestock exporters cameroon
box 321 Limbe-south west provice.
cameroon.
africa
Tel; (237) 791 94 20.

they are the best scammer I met thus far.

please be careful of these scammer. never send money first to no one unless they have lots of references and make sure they are known, google them,
I have lost over $6,000.00 US dollars to scammers in the past 6 months, please dont make the same mistakes as me
 
The first time I looked at this post I just moved on. I have to wonder though you said you'd been taken before? Why not give some facts here and explain what happened this time and well --before ..Randy
 
Wasnt there a thread just recently on these guys here on the BOI?

If they were giving you fake numbers and dancing around the subject wouldnt you say NO right off?

These people Prey on those lighthearted/gullible americans to do this kind of crap, and it sucks for the people who fall for it.

Im sorry dude. this really does suck for you.
 
facts ok.

well this time around this company kept emailing me repeatedly. saying they were looking for an importer who would like to start a business relationship with them, I asked for references, they said they had none, i told them no thankyou I have already been scammed before and do not wish it to happen again, so they kept asking me to help them that everyone is shooting them down, and they are honest people who need someone to trust them so they can get on the map basically, so I told them you send first then I pay and gave them my order. then they email me these documents of these animals the were going to ship to me including a vet check up etc. man it look legit, and they said they used their own money, at the time I didnt realize that in Cameroon you can apply for documents and then get you money back, so basically they use it as part of their scam. then they gave me this big story how the animals are all in this government quarentine and they need to pay the quarentine people and they used all their money up getting me the documents and how they had to pay their collectors and they dont want to lose their collectors because they are collecting all the other species I need, me like a dummy got all excited after seeing they had these snakes I been after for years now, got over zealous and sent them money, I sent 1000 and said send me an AWB number and I will send more money afterwards, anyways they never sent me an AWB number but gave me this story how they were goin to ship on a certain date and said they now needed money to make it to the airport, I refused and saidd no I sent enough, then the date came and they said it was my fault they missed the shipping date because I never sent more money. I said where is my AWB number, then they said they will make the shipping date for this other day and that they needed more money to pay the quarentine, now I am getting suspisious and said well give me the number to the quarentine place and I will call, first they refused saying how it isnt good for business that the quarentine place only deals with them, anyways I said well give em the number so they gave me the number and I tried to call but didnt get thru but pasted if off as just maybe because of the time difference between there and here and maybe it was after hours, so trusting them because they sent me numbers I sent more money $700. then they said they will ship on tuesday for sure and they would send me an AWB number, this was on thursday. anyways they got the money and never emailed me back, I sat there waited for my AWB number it never came, then tuesday came and I called swiss air to confirm if there was a shipment that left, and it was hard without an AWB number so they just check to see if they had any shipment of live reptiles leaving cameroon that day and there wasnt, then late tuesday i recieve an email saying oh that they couldnt ship because my documents expires and needed new documents,and of course they askked for more money I kept saying no send me an AWB number and I will send more money, over and over again and they just kept askign em for more money, a couple of weeks go by and they are saying its all my fault that they cant ship cause I wont send more moneya nd that the quarentine place wont release the animals till i send more money, so in the end I said fine, I will send 400 more but I better get an AWB number and this was on friday evening I sent the money they were suppose to ship tuesday, teusday came and went and nothin, then on thursdya i get a email from this sally woman sayin she is buddies wife and buddy gotinto an accident on hsi way to ship my aniamsl and they need more money to help them pay doctors bills, and after that of course I am not sendign shit, I was like wheres my AWB number where my new documents, where is proof of this accident, send me somethign and for 3 weeks straight we emailed each other everyday she kept askign for money and I kept asking for proof, finally they sent me an AWB number and said send us money i called to confirm AWB number it was fake, they email me back and said they made a mistake menaing swiss air and gave them the wrong number and then asked for more money LOL so I emailed back and asked where is the real AWB number, days go by and no real AWB number then I start gettin blamed, its my fault I am not recieving no anim,als, and how I am money hungry and do not care that her husband almost dies and then says send more money, every day send more money, so finally I get my buddy in south africa to investigate, there is no buddy name of this daniel guy in any hospital near where they say they are from and the quarentine place doesnt exist, so I email them this info and added all the points of all the lies and then the emails stopped.

yes I am dumm for sending 2100.00 but man i thought I was getting these snakes I was after for more then 2 years.

another recent one was Derrik Banura from uganda he got me for $1200 3 months ago, but he got alot of people around that time.

theres more but why bother its this new one we are talking about.
 
I always wondered if these people actually got anyone to send them money. I am sorry you got scammed, but how many times do you have to get taken before you stop sending the african scammers money?
 
hahaha this is funny.

Sorry for your loss but GEEESH!!

Well, now that you know what they do and how they do it why not do it back?

Next african add you see reply to it. Start asking a ton of questions, one at a time. If you waste enough of their time another victim may be "neglected" because you are keeping them so busy.

I've been doing that with the adds for parrot eggs and it is hysterical seeing just how far they'll go when they think they have a fish on the line. Hysterical.

These are very similar to the 411 scams. I'll tell ya, I never knew I had so many dead rich uncles in Africa. Pretty fly for a white gal....

I'm killin' myself here.

Seriously, get even with them by wasting their time. I'd suggest using an email account just for the scammers.
 
Mike,
No disrespect, but with the over-abundance of scams out of Africa, and the apparent indication that you've been had before, as you state this:
I got sucked in again by another company in Africa
You are giving us Yanks every reason to start making Canadian jokes. I appreciate the head's up, but is this so that we differentiate the good African deal, where we send money first, from the bad, where we still send money first ? Too much Molson ? Buyer beware maybe ? Is three the charm ? To everyone who reads this ... and it doesn't matter if its Africa or Kansas .. no references, no money !! :slamit:

Thanks for being a good sport Mike. Move south. Get some sun. It works wonders. And the only queen that we notice is really a man underneath it all. He's not special. Cheers.
 
I can't believe what i'm reading--sending all that money to some unknown clown in Africa?--these guys must sit around and count money , laughing all day long.--STOP SENDING MONEY TO AFRICA !!!
 
IBsmokin said:
facts ok.

well this time around this company kept emailing me repeatedly. saying they were looking for an importer who would like to start a business relationship with them, I asked for references, they said they had none, i told them no thankyou I have already been scammed before and do not wish it to happen again, so they kept asking me to help them that everyone is shooting them down, and they are honest people who need someone to trust them so they can get on the map basically, so I told them you send first then I pay and gave them my order. then they email me these documents of these animals the were going to ship to me including a vet check up etc. man it look legit, and they said they used their own money, at the time I didnt realize that in Cameroon you can apply for documents and then get you money back, so basically they use it as part of their scam. then they gave me this big story how the animals are all in this government quarentine and they need to pay the quarentine people and they used all their money up getting me the documents and how they had to pay their collectors and they dont want to lose their collectors because they are collecting all the other species I need, me like a dummy got all excited after seeing they had these snakes I been after for years now, got over zealous and sent them money, I sent 1000 and said send me an AWB number and I will send more money afterwards, anyways they never sent me an AWB number but gave me this story how they were goin to ship on a certain date and said they now needed money to make it to the airport, I refused and saidd no I sent enough, then the date came and they said it was my fault they missed the shipping date because I never sent more money. I said where is my AWB number, then they said they will make the shipping date for this other day and that they needed more money to pay the quarentine, now I am getting suspisious and said well give me the number to the quarentine place and I will call, first they refused saying how it isnt good for business that the quarentine place only deals with them, anyways I said well give em the number so they gave me the number and I tried to call but didnt get thru but pasted if off as just maybe because of the time difference between there and here and maybe it was after hours, so trusting them because they sent me numbers I sent more money $700. then they said they will ship on tuesday for sure and they would send me an AWB number, this was on thursday. anyways they got the money and never emailed me back, I sat there waited for my AWB number it never came, then tuesday came and I called swiss air to confirm if there was a shipment that left, and it was hard without an AWB number so they just check to see if they had any shipment of live reptiles leaving cameroon that day and there wasnt, then late tuesday i recieve an email saying oh that they couldnt ship because my documents expires and needed new documents,and of course they askked for more money I kept saying no send me an AWB number and I will send more money, over and over again and they just kept askign em for more money, a couple of weeks go by and they are saying its all my fault that they cant ship cause I wont send more moneya nd that the quarentine place wont release the animals till i send more money, so in the end I said fine, I will send 400 more but I better get an AWB number and this was on friday evening I sent the money they were suppose to ship tuesday, teusday came and went and nothin, then on thursdya i get a email from this sally woman sayin she is buddies wife and buddy gotinto an accident on hsi way to ship my aniamsl and they need more money to help them pay doctors bills, and after that of course I am not sendign shit, I was like wheres my AWB number where my new documents, where is proof of this accident, send me somethign and for 3 weeks straight we emailed each other everyday she kept askign for money and I kept asking for proof, finally they sent me an AWB number and said send us money i called to confirm AWB number it was fake, they email me back and said they made a mistake menaing swiss air and gave them the wrong number and then asked for more money LOL so I emailed back and asked where is the real AWB number, days go by and no real AWB number then I start gettin blamed, its my fault I am not recieving no anim,als, and how I am money hungry and do not care that her husband almost dies and then says send more money, every day send more money, so finally I get my buddy in south africa to investigate, there is no buddy name of this daniel guy in any hospital near where they say they are from and the quarentine place doesnt exist, so I email them this info and added all the points of all the lies and then the emails stopped.

yes I am dumm for sending 2100.00 but man i thought I was getting these snakes I was after for more then 2 years.

another recent one was Derrik Banura from uganda he got me for $1200 3 months ago, but he got alot of people around that time.

theres more but why bother its this new one we are talking about.

Hey dude if you got money to toss around like that ,Ive got a few acres in FLA for sale,hip boots included or you might be interested in this bridge for sale up in Brooklyn NY.
All offers considered ,no offers refused!
But seriously now,if an offer looks too good too be true...it probably is. :>poke2<:
 
Wow give the guy a break he made a mistake. Don't make people afraid to post their experiences because you think they are dumb. There are new people to the hobby all the time that don't know about these scams and can learn from this guy's mistakes so lighten up.
 
Otter_23 said:
Wow give the guy a break he made a mistake. Don't make people afraid to post their experiences because you think they are dumb. There are new people to the hobby all the time that don't know about these scams and can learn from this guy's mistakes so lighten up.

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Chris there are good exporters and they do business with importers in this country. People keep falling for these scams because they want to get something for very little money. They don't seem to think about the fact that they have to get an import license and that the animals have to go through customs ETC ETC before you can get them. They seem to think that people can have animals shipped by FedEx or what have you right to their door!! Doesn't work that way.

I feel for the guy but dang people do some research on importing before falling for these scams!! You can get scammed bad enough just buying from some of the low life in this country. Randy
 
At this time ( and I didn't read all )

there are big ? Huge ? Monumental scams of about anything you can think of coming out of Lagos, Ghana, Cameroon, etc. I mean ANY kind. some of the most apparent scams is transfer of funds from you to them to receive huge amounts of funds ( the Nigerian horse scam ), dating sites and yes Dr Phil, even on your site ( I have found and my opinion ) and some animal scams. The dating sites is like the women ( and maybe men targeting older women) are targeting older gentlemen with a sob story and try to get you to : send wire transfers to keep their Internet on to talk to you, food because the are starving, a plan to get them here to be with you and even sometimes a false scenario of having their offspring's shipped with them. They want you to pay for their visa and pass ports. They are posting pics of not themselves even but of a younger version of somebody else and fit and trim plus very beautiful. A lot of them are first making you believe that they are in the USA looking for love / companionship then after only one or two private e-mails they go into a pitch of how they know your the one and God has sent you to them and Blah, Blah, Blah. THEN they throw the news that they are not even in the USA but of one of those countries above. It has gotten very serious on all of the dating sites and the sites are now posting warnings but they are still getting away with it. The very funniest ones are of a Nigerian or Ghanaians that is Caucasian but of mixed African decent of like both parents but doesn't have one once of looks in any native African decent.in picture. Sorry but the little that I know about genetic traits doesn't seem to have an effect in these people. NOT ! Especially when the woman is blond and blued eye and skin color of not even looking to have ever been out in the sun very much ! I mean WHITE ! LOL ! ( somewhat off topic here ).
 
IBSmoking I saw you managed to locate some Kings that you were scammed with on a South Africa Forum....and were promptly banned after calling him out.... It may not be him who did the scamming he might just be the recipient of the scammed goods. I know the chaps concerned that those snakes would have been channeled through and with some additional info I may be in a position to help you out. I really don't appreciate Africa's reputation for bad business and it sickens me :ack2: that guys in SA are jumping on the band wagon.... If these are the usual suspects I would love to have some ammo to take them out. Please mail me all you have and I will follow this up. :uzi:
 
Hafnon, thanks I will email you shortly with tons and tons of ammo.

Ok guy let me explain more of why I have been so dumb.

two years ago I started writing a book on african Colubrids that have the potential for the pet trade, meaning, they must naturally prey on food items which are easily accessable, such as rodents.
I have compiled tons and tons of papers, documents, books, etc on the many different species of african colubrids.

No book will be like the one I have been working on mainly because I am covering all of Africa and I am covering all species I feel have great potential to be pets.

I felt there was too much ephasiss on North American species and not enough on Africa when Africa has far more species then North America and some are out right beautiful inoffensize snakes that are easily cared for in captivity.

But I felt I need to have the snake in my care so i could truly write about their husbandry, and many I would say 80% of the species are never found on regualr export list and most exporters in African do not even know these species by name nor have they ever collected them.

it only been recently since I have been aquiring many of the species that you are now seeing them on exporters list.
so some guys refuse to go out of their way and try to collect these specie,s so as I try for different exporters around differetn part of africa, I have been forced to use exporters who, at first seem honest and eager to take my money, some have even done business with many people in the past who have ordered the normal regualr common stuff, so they get into this deal with me wheer I am after all these species foudn in their side Of Africa, and as time goes they get too deep and are confused as to where to look and search and then in the end, they dont even ship, like this one guy in tanzania, I know lots of guys that got shipments from him, but he has had $3800 US of mince since January because he just cant admit he cant collect the species I am after.

Other have used my need for the species as a chance to rob me blind, like this one guy Derrik banura who came on line email me back and forth for months telling me how he could collect the Red and Black striped snake - Bopthropthalmus Lineatus, one of the holy grails of africna colubrids, I would say it is africans version of elephe Proxy, one beautiful snake, so he said he would collect me 10 heads of this species plus a number of other species, so i got excited, man i was gonna get the forest flame snake as some people call it, a truly remarkable snake that eats strictly rodents and kills its prey thru constriction, totally perfect candidate for my book. and one of the holy grails to boot. anyways I sent budyy 1200 and he disappeared, but at that time he scammed like 6 other guys, 4 from the States, so i wasnt alone in that scam.

then there is the story with the king cobras, man thats another story, all because I wnated all those species form South Africa, so i can have them for research purposes.

man if I was trying to import for money, I would use my regular guys and import pythons from indo, but man I am not in this for the money, even when I did do indonesian orders and such, I never made much, after shipping cost, taxes, etc. and then I would have to treat the snakes for parisites and then have to keep them for weeks sometimes months to make sure they are in awsome shape I would be lucky to just even their cost.

but with this new scam, and even more recently, last week from a guy in tanzania calling himself Suleman Muhamed, I lost a total of just under 10,000 since january. all because I am trying to get all these different species for my book. Species like I said that have never once been offered for sale on any export list.

its a hit and win, the losses have hurt me finacially and at times have made me want to give up, but my book is over 50% complete. and it will be the first of its kind. so in the end if I am able to show the world the many different beautiful species Africa has to offer, then I have achieved something beyond greatness in my eyes.
But it has been a ruff ride, and I am still moving, but I have learnt many expensive lessons, but I have lucked out and found 3 exporters who are willing to ship first then pay, I am just waiting for them to finish collecting and hopefully within the the next few months I should have imported every species I need to finish my book.
some I cant get, I have foudn some people who do have them in their care to help me with pics and husbandry information, although it wil be second hand info at least I will have it none the less.

http://www.mfezi.com/species page.htm


click the pics on Don's Site I wrote those, they are bits from my book I am writing.
 
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