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The 1.1 black tailed cribos I bought from Lloyd turned out to be 2 males. Emailed him about it and never even received a reply. terrible customer service and doesn't stand behind his animals.
 
How about some more details, along with supporting evidence? When did you actually receive? Also, you'll want to post any emails or texts that back up what you're saying about how he has responded.
 
Ron Allen said:
How about some more details, along with supporting evidence? When did you actually receive? Also, you'll want to post any emails or texts that back up what you're saying about how he has responded.
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Along with what is above, how long have you waited for a response from the seller?
 
I have had several transactions with Lloyd over the last 15 years and all have gone flawlessly. Details are definitely needed on this issue
 
Ron Allen said:
How about some more details, along with supporting evidence? When did you actually receive? Also, you'll want to post any emails or texts that back up what you're saying about how he has responded.
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Apparently, this is just an extension of another thread that he had previously posted about the transaction. No idea why he wouldn't just update the Original Thread. Anyway, good luck prying much useful info out of this guy.
 
[QUOTE-Ron Allen]witch hunt[/QUOTE]

Actually, without going back to completely read the whole thread again, I'm thinking that it turned out he was telling the truth. He just seems to have a problem with the idea that we wouldn't just take anything he says at face value, without anything to back it up.
 
Did you actually purchase a guaranteed pair or did you receive at least one of the two as settlement from Lloyd for the scarred/scabbed female TX Indigo you purchased (and Lloyd failed to disclose, I recall) some 10-11 months ago?

When did you purchase/receive this pair?
 
This pair was purchased last summer as 1.1. If Lloyd would have emailed back and said 'I popped them maybe I made a mistake' or similar I wouldn't have posted here. Still waiting on the 1.1 promised for compensation for the other deal gone wrong. If I paid the man over several thousand $$ for animals last year and I'm not happy with the deal I reserve the right to post here.
Some of you guys act like I would come on here and put up with your horse ___ for the pure enjoyment of posting negative feedback. Get real.

If you've done deals with somebody that went well that's great. you still don't know me or my deals, this isn't a court of law. one would assume that people have enough going on in their lives to not post negative feedback "just for kicks". With the way so many are all over my posts acting like they know something when they haven't a clue indicates I may be wrong.
In either case fire away with your BS attacks. This is my public service announcement for the day...
 
Yet again, you've come on here and started spouting off, with no evidence being presented. One would have to be extremely misinformed to operate under the assumption that BOI threads are never started "just for kicks." As such, the sensible approach would be to write out a thorough OP with as much actual proof as you have: copy of the ad, seller statement regarding supposed sex, picture/video proof of actual sex, emails that went unanswered, etc. Since you still haven't been able to muster the good sense to provide anything other than a general statement without any proof, your last thread should have prepared you for just what to expect when you come back here with the very same methodology.

It's not rocket surgery. If you want to be taken seriously, put a bit of effort into it. If you're not willing to get over yourself for long enough to back up what you say, I think you forfeit any right to whine about how your claims are received. That's my PSA for the day.
 
Well, it seems that the OP hasn't appreciated my input thus far. Instead of actually taking the time to bolster his claims, he chose to send me an idiotic little PM. Apparently, proof is only required when he feels that there's something to gain from it. When it comes to simple character assassination, there's no need to prove anything. Yeah, makes perfect sense. :ack2:

Also, you gotta love how he resorts to homosexual innuendo, in lieu of any worthwhile rebuttal. I guess he thinks that one would have to be gay, to be capable of seeing the abject stupidity behind his posting habits? Is that their superpower, kinda like gaydar? :rofl:
 

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Based on that PM I stand by witch hunt, he wants nothing but to cause harm. I will avoid doing any business with jwarren1
Location: Laramie WY USA

Name : jeremy warren
 
jwarren1 said:
This pair was purchased last summer as 1.1. ... Still waiting on the 1.1 promised for compensation for the other deal gone wrong.
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If you already had an issue with this seller and posted a thread, why would you make another purchase? Or was part of the original purchase?

jwarren1 said:
you still don't know me or my deals
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You are exactly right, we do not know you and that is why members viewing these threads ask for proof of what you are claiming. Sounds reasonable doesn't it? Would you appreciate anyone posting something about you that cast you in a negative light without some sort of proof?
Unfortunately, some people may come on here and make a claim against someone that is untrue or unfounded.

If you feel you are being attacked, maybe it is because you have started a second bad guy thread against the same individual and you have not offered proof, which is purely your choice and your right. Just as it is our right to ask questions about your transactions to be able to form an opinion.

The BOI is not just a place for you to post a "Public Service Announcement". It is a place to seek help in resolving your problem. Sometimes, by offering proof that support your claims the community will support you in dealing with your issue. I've even witnessed friends of the "accused" urge and coax to reach a resolution to problems.

Sending a pm that is truly uncalled for and in my mind causes even more concern and questions about the validity of your claims, certainly does not earn any kind of support in this forum or community.
 
Since it wouldn't surprise me if the OP had chosen to neglect the courtesy of informing his target that this thread was posted, I just sent him an email with a link. Maybe he'll choose to respond, and something useful will come from this thread. :shrug01:
 
jwarren1 said:
you still don't know me .
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Perhaps that is why everyone is calling for proof. After all, anyone can make a false claim and sometimes that happens here. What's the big deal about taking a few minutes and getting some proof together?


TucsonRES said:
If you already had an issue with this seller and posted a thread, why would you make another purchase?
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Good question.
 
the same handful of people have made a career out of jumping on anyone who posts negative feedback if you look back through the posts, if a person is so offended and horrified by negative feedback that they would devote their life toward intimidation of posters they must have a reason, don't be scared homies! let your animals speak for themselves
 
jwarren1 said:
the same handful of people have made a career out of jumping on anyone who posts negative feedback if you look back through the posts, if a person is so offended and horrified by negative feedback that they would devote their life toward intimidation of posters they must have a reason, don't be scared homies! let your animals speak for themselves
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Well, enough fluff, why don't you post some proof now?
 
you guys can come probe my snakes, but then you would say I switched snakes at the last minute, better yet, anybody who is actually considering buying from Lloyd can call me 3072772660 for any details on these deals, as for the other folks who make a career out of hate on the internet-go hug your children
 
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