Bad Guy Major League Exotic Pets - Allen Both - Reptile Kingdom

[JRLongton]

I, Jason R. Longton, swear that what I relate below is the truth and factually accurate.

Allen Both of Reptile Kingdom is now operating as Major League Exotic Pets and just as crooked and deceptive as ever.

On October 7, 2018, at the New England Reptile Expo in Manchester, NH, I bought what was purported to be a baby hog island boa constrictor from Allen Both, the owner of Major League Exotic Pets for $175. I noted that the poor little guy didn't look well but was then given every explanation imaginable, he was in shed, he hadn't been fed recently, he was dehydrated, he'd be fine, lies, lies, lies.

Foolishly, I determined to buy the poor creature and do my best by him. Six days later the boa was dead. It wasn't that he was "in shed" or hadn't eaten recently. He was extremely ill, contagious, and dying. That so many excuses were offered just demonstrates that Allen knew that the creature was sick but cared more about making a quick buck than doing right by a customer and the animal.

To be perfectly clear, Allen sold me a dying animal, knowing full well that it was extremely sick and would soon be dead. Worse, he knew it was highly contagious and could transmit the illness to the rest of my pets. He just didn't care.

I had kept the boa in a brand new PVC custom built enclosure (from Animal Plastics) with a new radiant heat panel. Now that a sick animal was kept and died therein, it can no longer be used! I lost an enclosure, heating device, $175, and placed all my other animals at risk, not to mention the emotional toll of watching a pet I had come to care for die slowly and painfully. But Allen made a couple of bucks!

I called Allen, and explained what had happened. He had the nerve to offer me a replacement animal! As though animals are replaceable! I told him I wouldn't even touch an animal of his, but considering all that I had lost, it would be appropriate to at least give me a refund for the boa constrictor. Allen initially balked but when I pointed out his atrocious reputation he agreed. He made a nice show of getting the last four of my credit card and told me over the phone that the refund was being processed right then. I got off the phone with him and immediately called my credit card company to verify that the refund was made. I wasn't at all surprised to learn that no refund had been initiated. He had lied yet again! The man has no scruples at all.

It should be pointed out that this was at the New England Reptile Expo in Manchester, NH. This crook was handing out diseased dying animals to potential customers who would put their hands all over these sickly creatures only to then go to the next table and handle other breeders healthy creatures! Were I a breeder I wouldn't show my animals at any event that allowed Allen's festering table of infectious pathogens to be set up.

Allen is a menace. He has a long record of lying, selling sick animals, spreading illnesses to other peoples animals, and shady practices. What some people will do for a buck.

I imagine that the reputation of the Reptile Kingdom was so ruined that he needed to change the name to Major League Exotic Pets. Seems the cat is starting to come out of the bag though.

If you care about the health and well being of your animals, and your own, STAY AWAY from Major League Exotic Pets and Allen Both.

 

[Deborah Stewart]

Can you post the vet and or necropsy report?

 

[Lucille]

I noted that the poor little guy didn't look well

You had a chance to examine the animal and it appeared ill to you.

Foolishly, I determined to buy the poor creature

It appeared ill to you so you purchased it.

contagious

How do you know it was contagious?

Now that a sick animal was kept and died therein, it can no longer be used!.

That is just silly. The cage can be disinfected. Do you think hospital rooms are used only once?

He had the nerve to offer me a replacement animal

You have shown no proof of why this animal died, no pictures, for all we know, or the seller knows, it could have been a husbandry issue of yours. Yet you say he decided to offer a replacement. If so, that seems like it is good customer service.
As far as a refund, perhaps he too is waiting on a vet report or necropsy finding.

 

[Robert Walker]

That is just silly. The cage can be disinfected. Do you think hospital rooms are used only once?

^^^This.

 

[April Homich]

It's awful to get a sick snake and to loose one. That's rough, but honestly buying something that looks sick at a show isn't helping - it's just supporting bad sellers. I am also curious what the snake was diagnosed with, and what testing was used to confirm it. It sounds like you're assuming something viral if you're saying it's highly contagious. If he's selling snakes that tested positive for something, that information (along with the proof of testing) should be shared.

For the cage, disinfect it thoroughly and stick it in storage for a while. Then disinfect again before use. For quarantine animals, I always prefer tubs. The setup for new arrivals should be very simple and easy to disinfect, or to even throw out if needed. Anything that comes into my place I treat as if it's sick. Gloves, working with them last, etc. A proper quarantine will keep your collection safe.

 

[ReptileKIngdom]

Just to clear the air. We opened a retail location which is called Major League Exotic Pets and is located in Jackson NJ. We initially kept our previous company reptile kingdom as a separate wholesale company however we are transitioning to the new name.

Second I spoke with this gentleman twice on the phone. The first time he had a concern that the boa was not feeding. I had no issues with any of these baby hog islands feeding nor any of the other customers I have sold them too. I still have 1 left which is in perfect health in our shop.

He then called several days later stating the snake had died. After learning of his setup I offered a replacement animal which I thought was more than fair. Especially considering all live stock sales at expos are final and it also states this on the receipt of purchase. At expos we allow the customers as much time as they need to examine the animals and determine if they would like to purchase it. We do not bring or offer sick animals at shows however if something goes wrong we try our best to make it right. In this case the customer was quite irritated on the phone so I promptly returned his credit card payment after confirming the last 4 of his card number. I did this to rectify the problem even though there is no vet report. No proof of death. No necropsy. I just tried to make this right for the disgruntled customer. As far as contagious goes, our animals are healthy. We have no issues and there are no issues with the remaining hog island we have in stock or the others we have sold to regular customers.

 

[ReptileKIngdom]

Here is attached receipt of refund. This was done while I was on the phone with the customer. There is no sensitive info as only the last 4 of the card number show.

 

[ReptileKIngdom]

Pic of hogs

 

[tlmoon]

Snakes can die, especially babies....it's unfortunate and upsetting. But it doesn't mean that someone sold you a "dying" animal. Credit card transactions aren't necessarily instantaneous - have you checked again? Sometimes things don't post until the next business day.

Of course it's traumatic to get a new pet and have it die. But, you are posting things without proof - is the snake really 'contagious'? Where is the vet report? Why didn't you take an animal that was "unwell" at purchase to a vet (if you didn't)? Surely you know a cage doesn't have to be thrown out in this situation.

This just seems like a way out proportion response to the situation, considering the seller did try to make it right. Do you have some kind of past with this seller? This seems personal somehow.

Although I don't necessarily agree with your approach here, I am sorry to hear about the snake passing. It is difficult to lose an animal.

 

[LauraB]

Jason, as already requested, please post whatever vet receipts and proof you have to confirm that the snake was dying and "highly contagious". The drama over the tank was a bit over the top considering you can clean, disinfect, store and keep all equipment for later and considering YOU made the decision to buy a snake that did not look healthy and then introduced it to whatever collection you have.

I do not doubt that the snake died soon after your purchase, but you, and only you, made the decision to buy it, supporting someone you already claimed had a poor reputation.

Please provide supporting documents relative to the snake's illness and "contagious" status.

 

[JRLongton]

In seeing the receipt that Allen posted I just called my credit card company. The refund just went through yesterday. I would not have been able to see on my statement until yesterday evening, after I had already posted my complaint.

I felt, reasonably, that a week should be enough to see the refund come through. I was wrong in that assumption and apologize to Allen for this mistake.

He did not lie on that account and I was wrong to have accused him of such.

I will amend any other negative reviews I have left.

I continue to be distraught over the loss of the snake.

 

[Helenthereef]

He did not lie on that account and I was wrong to have accused him of such.

I will amend any other negative reviews I have left.

I continue to be distraught over the loss of the snake.

Well done on acknowledging the refund, and sympathies on losing the snake, it must have been horrible. What exactly was the diagnosed illness?

 

[Mister Internet]

In seeing the receipt that Allen posted I just called my credit card company. The refund just went through yesterday. I would not have been able to see on my statement until yesterday evening, after I had already posted my complaint.

I felt, reasonably, that a week should be enough to see the refund come through. I was wrong in that assumption and apologize to Allen for this mistake.

He did not lie on that account and I was wrong to have accused him of such.

I will amend any other negative reviews I have left.

I continue to be distraught over the loss of the snake.

Still interested in the lethally "contagious" communicable disease you cited as the definitive cause of the snake's death... can we see the documentation of the illness being identified?

 

[David Reid]

That boa looks skinny. If you buy skinny, sick animals then you basically tell the seller it is ok to sell such animals. Buy from a breeder......

Dave

 

[Mike Schultz]

Always great when a BOI ends up saying more about the customer than the seller!

 

[JRLongton]

Look, I left the bad review because I was told over the phone to expect a refund. I waited 6 days and called my credit card company several times to find out if the refund had gone through.

Who here does not think 6 days is a reasonable time frame for a refund to go through on a credit card?

After 6 days, I felt lied to and left the negative review as a means to compel the promised refund. Unbeknownst to me the refund just took unusually long. Perhaps because it was one of those cell phone app transactions.

Regardless it is clear that the refund was initiated as promised, Had it come through more quickly I would never have left this review. I certainly would never have called Allen a liar.

Now that the matter is resolved, I will request that the moderators/administrators delete the thread.

Frankly, I just want this nightmare with all its ugliness to be behind me.

 

[Mike Schultz]

Unfortunately, they do not delete posts on this page. Allen has a bad mark on his name for the lifetime of this website because you jumped the gun and crucified him for having the audacity to offer a full replacement or a refund on an animal you never even proved died, or saw a vet.

 

[Wilomn]

You've made a statement about a fatal illness being contagious. Is there any proof of this or were you just trying to bolster your claim?

 

[Chris Kennard]

Look, I left the bad review because I was told over the phone to expect a refund. I waited 6 days and called my credit card company several times to find out if the refund had gone through.

Who here does not think 6 days is a reasonable time frame for a refund to go through on a credit card?

After 6 days, I felt lied to and left the negative review as a means to compel the promised refund. Unbeknownst to me the refund just took unusually long. Perhaps because it was one of those cell phone app transactions.

Regardless it is clear that the refund was initiated as promised, Had it come through more quickly I would never have left this review. I certainly would never have called Allen a liar.

Now that the matter is resolved, I will request that the moderators/administrators delete the thread.

Frankly, I just want this nightmare with all its ugliness to be behind me.

This "matter" is not "resolved". You didn't just call Allen a liar. You did something potentially far more damaging! You accused him of selling a fatally sick snake that is contagious. That is every viewer's worst nightmare. You are obligated to prove it or you will be dubbed every seller's worst nightmare. I think I get why you want this thread deleted...wink, wink.

 

[Chris Kennard]

I, Jason R. Longton, swear that what I relate below is the truth and factually accurate.

Allen Both of Reptile Kingdom is now operating as Major League Exotic Pets and just as crooked and deceptive as ever.

On October 7, 2018, at the New England Reptile Expo in Manchester, NH, I bought what was purported to be a baby hog island boa constrictor from Allen Both, the owner of Major League Exotic Pets for $175. I noted that the poor little guy didn't look well but was then given every explanation imaginable, he was in shed, he hadn't been fed recently, he was dehydrated, he'd be fine, lies, lies, lies.

Foolishly, I determined to buy the poor creature and do my best by him. Six days later the boa was dead. It wasn't that he was "in shed" or hadn't eaten recently. He was extremely ill, contagious, and dying. That so many excuses were offered just demonstrates that Allen knew that the creature was sick but cared more about making a quick buck than doing right by a customer and the animal.

To be perfectly clear, Allen sold me a dying animal, knowing full well that it was extremely sick and would soon be dead. Worse, he knew it was highly contagious and could transmit the illness to the rest of my pets. He just didn't care.

I had kept the boa in a brand new PVC custom built enclosure (from Animal Plastics) with a new radiant heat panel. Now that a sick animal was kept and died therein, it can no longer be used! I lost an enclosure, heating device, $175, and placed all my other animals at risk, not to mention the emotional toll of watching a pet I had come to care for die slowly and painfully. But Allen made a couple of bucks!

I called Allen, and explained what had happened. He had the nerve to offer me a replacement animal! As though animals are replaceable! I told him I wouldn't even touch an animal of his, but considering all that I had lost, it would be appropriate to at least give me a refund for the boa constrictor. Allen initially balked but when I pointed out his atrocious reputation he agreed. He made a nice show of getting the last four of my credit card and told me over the phone that the refund was being processed right then. I got off the phone with him and immediately called my credit card company to verify that the refund was made. I wasn't at all surprised to learn that no refund had been initiated. He had lied yet again! The man has no scruples at all.

It should be pointed out that this was at the New England Reptile Expo in Manchester, NH. This crook was handing out diseased dying animals to potential customers who would put their hands all over these sickly creatures only to then go to the next table and handle other breeders healthy creatures! Were I a breeder I wouldn't show my animals at any event that allowed Allen's festering table of infectious pathogens to be set up.

Allen is a menace. He has a long record of lying, selling sick animals, spreading illnesses to other peoples animals, and shady practices. What some people will do for a buck.

I imagine that the reputation of the Reptile Kingdom was so ruined that he needed to change the name to Major League Exotic Pets. Seems the cat is starting to come out of the bag though.

If you care about the health and well being of your animals, and your own, STAY AWAY from Major League Exotic Pets and Allen Both.

Oct. 7th...poor little guy didn't look well. Got it. Second paragraph...you "determined" to buy "the poor creature". Got it. He was "extremely Ill, contagious, and dying". You also said "Allen knew that the creature was sick". You went as far as to say "Allen's festering table of infectious pathogens, blah blah blah. You call him a menace. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Judging from this thread, you appear to more of a menace. You started this thread. You finish it.