male or female Frilled Dragon please help

[jsshark1]

Hi
I was hoping some one can help me with confirming the sex of this Frilled Dradon

Thanks

 

[LauraB]

That's a young one, so leaning toward male.

 

[jsshark1]

unfortunately it was sold to me as a Female, the store had three that
suppose to be 7 months old, the other two have already big male heads, and this one still looked like a baby small head making me be leave it was a female, I will add some more pic just in case, to me it is hard to tell with the scale and pattern in that area

 

[jsshark1]

I do want to mention that I was told all three Frilled Dragons that the shop had where from the same hatching, I was also told it was confirmed this one was a female and I be leaved it since the other two already look like male and this one still had a small head like a female

I already have my male

thanks for reading

 

[august quion]

Frilled

I've watched those Australian frilled grow up there at that shop!! I know the people that bred them, and the shop your talking about I know when they bought them, and can confirm they are all from the same clutch. I've always thought that one was female, I'm no expert on frilled but the frill on all the rest were always longer past the front arms and that one always stood out to have a shorter smaller frill even 3 months ago. From what I hear it's hard to tell by lifting the tail like that on young frilled, not like a bearded. If you need info on the actual breeder of those pm me.

 

[jsshark1]

Thanks you for your reply and comment august quion.

I also have had my eye on them since they hit the shop, I agree with all the details you mention, that is why I do be leave it is a female also and very thrilled to have her and cant wait to see if they will have eggs,,

thanks for the offer of sharing your info about breeding them, i think it is a bit early for me to have any good questions for you ...

 

[jsshark1]

Hi every one

It has been 6 months since I ask Male or female,
wanted to ask again Male or female ?

 

[Snake-Queen]

I see pores ... going by both pictures (older and new) I am thinking male.

 

[Pasodama]

Both males and females have pores ... but they become enlarged in a male.
However, I am leaning toward its being a male, at this time, due to the side by side bulges, with indent in center, just above the vent/cloaca.
Do you have any photos that show the side, and the top, of your dragon?

 

[jsshark1]

head pic's

The shop I got it from still has the two males from the same group of eggs and they are twice this ones size, with much longer Frils,

 

[Snake-Queen]

Very cute.
It has the physical appearance of a female, but the hemipenal bulges and enlarged pores indicate male.
After a little research, some males develop slower than other males, you may have to wait a few more months to tell for sure.

 

[jsshark1]

thanks you for the reply , then I will update in a couple of months again.

 

[Pasodama]

some males develop slower than other males, you may have to wait a few more months to tell for sure.

Was about to say the same thing.

BTW Another thing, that you can try, is sexing with a small flashlight &/or pen light.
Use a flashlight that does not give off any, or much, heat. Pen lights, and certain other small flashlights, should not give off any real heat.
If the flashlight, that you do use, gives off plenty of heat, take extreme care that you do not cause a burn.
Go into a dark room. Then, lift tail (as you have) and place the small flashlight on what would be the top of the tail (just above the vent). Simultaneously, look at the underside of the tail (&/or take pic/s).
If done right, you should be able to see the hemipenes, just inside the tail base, or the absence of them.

 

[Snake-Queen]

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Go into a dark room. Then, lift tail (as you have) and place the small flashlight on what would be the top of the tail (just above the vent). Simultaneously, look at the underside of the tail (&/or take pic/s).
If done right, you should be able to see the hemipenes, just inside the tail base, or the absence of them.

I've done this with very small bearded dragons and it works if the hemipenis are developed enough and you know what to look for. However, with the age of your frilled, they should be developed enough to see.

 

[jsshark1]

Thanks, I will see if I can get a picture with the flashlight...

 

[jsshark1]

Female ?

got the pictures, Female ?




no heat to worry about because a LED key chain light was used,

Thanks

 

[Snake-Queen]

Based on your pictures, I would say it is a male ... just slower developing.

 

[Snake-Queen]

The first image is one of bearded dragons, but the anatomy is the same.

 

[Pasodama]

no heat to worry about because a LED key chain light was used

Awesome!

Yep. Looks like you have a boy there. You can see the hemipenes in the pics.