Mario Bad mouths his "Friend"

[HerpVenue]

Here is Mario saying he made a friend.
But his "friend" decided to post here.
So he basically says it seems she was trolling

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:27 pm
Veronica Davidson

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Now I find this is thoroughly disgusting and appalling. Veronica Davidson a trusted member and friend her decides to go ranting off on Fauna while posting many inaccuracy’s. What is her sudden problem with me, I have no clue. Last I knew, I thought we were friends. Feel quite befriended.
Me and Veronica had a nice working relationship since her membership here. She was unhappy with the way she was treated on the Fauna site and felt that she was wronged. Me and her appeared to have had worked ourselves into a friendship. And she has displayed her unpleasantness with fauna to me many times. In fact, she was one of the vary few people that new of a possible situation going down about fauna. While she didn’t want to jump right in on anything she wasn’t aware of the details on. She had made it clear to me that something had to be done about these people. However how much involvement if any she would have was uncertain. Rakell and Veronica frankly didn’t seem to care too much for each other as they got off on some sort of bad foot which I stepped in to help resolve. After all, I had what I considered a working friendship with both of them. And since I had a potential moderator position available for Veronica, their was no since of them fighting and not getting along over a misunderstanding.
Anyways, me and Veronica talked quite a bit for some time on a messaging program. She seemed quite eager to help this site. Over time I had not begin utilizing my messaging program as much and ceased to log in for quite some time now. Primarily because I couldn’t get work down from the number of messages I would receive.
Anyways to make a long story short, she seems quite upset with me all of a sudden and token the wrong course of action and appears to be no longer of friendly status with these forums.
She has decided to participate on the Fauna forums in a thread to furture ridicule and defame me. So I just wanted to get some fact’s strait.

I do not have any official boycott list. This is something totally created up by Steven Beckerman and attended my Fauna Classifieds and certain members their. It appears to have angered many as many seem to be totally disillusioned as if this was mine or the sites site official boycott list. Again, this is just more lies spread by this group to get people at an anger against me. I also do not recall even seeing Veronica’s name or websites on this site. Nor do we support any outside list these people may conjour up. But according to this group, I am boycotting everyone and the world. Again, they prove to be an unreliable source of information with a deliberate attempt to distort the facts.
Veronica makes a post “i'll be on his boycott list after this for sure!” which appears to mean that somehow she’s affected by the boycott because she purchased from HISS. She may wish to read our boycott pages more closely. She also knows the idea’s and reasoning for the boycott as well, so her response on fauna is completely offensive to me. She then post the message I sent her regarding this matter.

“Veronica,
We do not allow for the promotion of boycotted sites or banned members on the forums. Recently you made a post promoting KellyH and her site hiss.com. She has been banned multiple times for violating the rules here and flat out trolling and causing problems. She’s also libeled my name and the site both here and on fauna. She supports he criminal activity of fauna that harms this hobby and is trying to have this site shut down.
She also appeared to come back to these forums and post yet again violating the Terms of Use since she was banned.
I entrust that this was posted in error. I removed the post into a private section along with banned Kelly’s new account.”

As a friend I was shocked that she would do such a thing. Especially after seeing what happened the last time a similar event happened. It appeared to me as if she was deliberately trolling.
She then followed this quoting of the message I sent her by a quote of Rich Z. along with posting
“I'm sure I'll be banned from his site now too.
oh boo and i was making some nice friends over there ”

This add’s reasoning to back my idea that she was trolling.

In a following post she written a public message directed towards KelliH.

“kelliH
I have to say I was shocked when he sent me that message saying he removed my post because I "promoted" hiss.com blah blah blah..
I messaged him back saying that he was taking it a bit far that I didnt promote anything. I was mearly saying where I got my male Leo from. I have never heard back from him and have him on messenger as well.
He usually starts to message me every time something happens here or on his site with reguards to Rich and all that junk but I just ask him...why does he even care? Just stick on your own web site and forum and ignore all the rest of that stuff.
I personally don't see what the big deal is.
He would send me links of posts here and all that nonscence but I never really read anything. I personally am too busy and have more important things to do than get involved in things like that but when he did that to kelli i was just down right pissed off.
I dont go there much anymore. Not many post there anyway.
I found those same people on kingsnake and here so why bother going there anymore.
Well killi. ... For what its worth I'm sorry about all that stupid stuff on that other site. I thought it was stupid.
Hell my 3 kids play nicer than that ”
She saids she was “shocked” because I removed her message. She knows full well how this board is ran. Why should she been shocked of me sending her a private message addressing my concern over this? She seen what happened last time. She also said’s “I messaged him back saying that he was taking it a bit far that I didnt promote anything. I was mearly saying where I got my male Leo from.” This is false. Here is the exact reply she sent back to me.
“sorry about that i didnt think i was promoting her site i was saying where I got my male from.. if you read it i said I bought the male from a women who either bought it from kelliH or got it in a trade... i said i think her site is HISS.com not sure. Then she posted .. I'm sure she was interested as she said she was in just seeing how some of her former leo's ended up and how they are doing now. She certainly didn’t seem to be doing anything wrong.”
Not only does this not say anything about saying that I “was taking it a bit far” but she apologizes for her actions. And she said that “i didnt think i was promoting her site i was saying where I got my male from” (I meaning herself). Quite different then the context of “I didnt promote anything”. And like she said “I have never heard back from him and have him on messenger as well.”. That would be correct. I do not have my messenger currently operating nor did I think their was anything else to discuss on this matter. I was left under the impression from her of possible misunderstanding.
She saids “He usually starts to message me every time something happens here or on his site with reguards to Rich and all that junk but I just ask him...why does he even care?”. Yea sometimes I use to message her about what was going on when she seemed quite interested in what was going on about the fauna issue. As far as directly about Rich, Im not sure if I ever brought Rich’s name up to here. It’s quite possible I have, but definitely not in the context of all the time if I did like her post relays it as. She knows how upsetting this situation was and all that was at stake as well. But I begin not discussing much with her when she began to have this attitude of oh don’t worry about it. And this was totally not the way our conversations have went. She did understand what the whole ordeal was. I don’t ever recalling her saying “I personally don't see what the big deal is.”.
Veronica seemed quite intrigued in what was going on. I think she may have even keyed my in on a few issues as well. A far cry from how she is portraying our conversations. Nor did she as a supposable victim of fauna consider everything nonsense as well especially when I tried to rationalize theory and idea of how she was supposbly a victim on fauna as well about not being able to read some text on a box hat was sent to her which seemed to frame here. As a photographer, I can say things do appear different from a photograph in life. So I can see how she may have not read something. However, I am a little skeptical as to it as well which me and her have discussed in depth at one time. But with fauna, there are no other explanations, just what they believe.
As far as her being to busy to get involved with me online on this issue or others. That’s interesting. Yes she was a busy person at times. However, she never seemed over busy to me and always seemed eager to speak to me.
As far as what I did to Kelli goes. Again, what did I do to Kelli? If I recall correctly, Kelli has attacked my both on fauna and here forcing me to take action against her. I actually let things slide with her because she was a past member here and didn’t appear to cause problems before. So if anything, my actions were lenient with her. But it’s funny how suddenly when theirs money exchanging hands, then the views change dramatically. Now it’s also interesting to point out it’s all nonsense when I and the forum am directly involved but when her business relations are involved and stirring up problems, then it’s suddenly not nonsense and pisses her off. Maybe she should have read the post’s of what was going on before jumping to irrational actions.
Veronica apologizes to Kelli for “all that stupid stuff on that other site. I thought it was stupid.”. Interesting coming from someone that just directly jumped right in like this any make attacks that are sparked by what?
Veronica has made it very clear of the similar problems she has with her own forum. Where competing forums are constantly badmouthing her and libeling her. She seemed quite intent to tell me about these issues. Of course I was their to listen too, not like it affected me directly in any way. But I still stayed their to listen and not pass judgment. Veronica’s posting seems quite hypocritical in my opinion.

She also posted in a other posting
“I didnt talk to him much at all.
I just liked the people who posted on his group thats all.
like i said i stayed out of the squables”
Actually, like I said previously. Veronica talked to me quite frequently. It was a daily thing for quite some time. We would both message each other out of the blue. So I am not sure what she is trying to hide, but I’m appalled on why she would say such things. While recently we haven’t spoken, that’s because I don’t have my messenger running. So maybe she’s upset I haven’t talked to her in a while who knows.
She also later posted “you guys are cracking me up lol” in a thread that is nothing more then ridicule and libel towards me. Seems quite upset with me about something or another.
Here’s a message to Veronica.
Im not sure what I did to have personally piss you off at me. If you some how think I was mad at you for not logging on my messenger, your wrong. It’s been down due to computer issues, period. But I obviously she your true colors when you are upset with someone. So whatever your issue is with me, you can contact me on it. But I am quite upset from your postings and actions. While I am more personally hurt then anything, I am not going to stand by and watch the BS you posted go unchecked as well.

In fact, she was one of the vary few people that new of a possible situation going down about fauna.
You mean we have a situation going down? Wonder what that is? Or is this another of Mario's "the world is out to get me" thoughts?

Rakell and Veronica frankly didn’t seem to care too much for each other as they got off on some sort of bad foot which I stepped in to help resolve
Mario, you are my Hero !!!

She has decided to participate on the Fauna forums in a thread to furture ridicule and defame me. So I just wanted to get some fact’s strait.
I am sorry guys. You can say what you want....But dyslexic people that I know including myself do ot spell like that. Hey mario, it is further and it is straight. And she didn't just decide to participate here. She has been here since 2002

Primarily because I couldn’t get work down from the number of messages I would receive.
Veronica, I think he is saying you talk too much.

She saids she was “shocked” because I removed her message. She knows full well how this board is ran.
You should know by now how he runs his board.
NO ATTACKS....except when he does it.
NO LIES.....except when he does it.
NO LIBEL....except when he does it.
And if you have anything to say that is a fact and the truth....IT WILL BE DELETED. No truths allowed on Mario's board.

I do not have any official boycott list. This is something totally created up by Steven Beckerman and attended my Fauna Classifieds and certain members their. It appears to have angered many as many seem to be totally disillusioned as if this was mine or the sites site official boycott list.
The official boycott list is any member here.
Any sponsors here.
Any advertisers here.
The only time you will not be boycotted is if you happen to grease mario's pockets or you have his links on your site. He needs those links.

Nor did she as a supposable victim of fauna consider everything nonsense as well especially when I tried to rationalize theory and idea of how she was supposbly a victim on fauna as well about not being able to read some text on a box hat was sent to her which seemed to frame here. As a photographer, I can say things do appear different from a photograph in life. So I can see how she may have not read something. However, I am a little skeptical as to it as well which me and her have discussed in depth at one time. But with fauna, there are no other explanations, just what they believe.
Veronica was never a "VICTIM" of fauna.
She is NOT guilty of anything.
We did not victimize her.
So she did not see that a box was labeled properly. She misread it. Learn from the mistake and move on.

As a friend I was shocked that she would do such a thing. Especially after seeing what happened the last time a similar event happened. It appeared to me as if she was deliberately trolling.
So she makes a post about where she got her gecko from.
It happened to be a person on your boycott and banned list.
All of a sudden your friend Veronica was trolling?

Wow mario,
get a clue

 

[Clay Davenport]

Once again I made it about half way through that rediculous diatribe before my brain began to shut down. Longwinded doesn't even begin to describe his ramblings.
One thig is for sure, all the paranoia and stress he suffers from constantly worrying about how big of a joke we think he is is probably shortening his life expectancy.
Interesting how he is unable to seperate the sarcasm of our discussion of his "boycott list" from actual fact.

Fight the power Mario, we need the laughs.

 

[KelliH]

whatever Mario

(I'm addressing this to Mario because we all know he reads these posts)

I actually let things slide with her because she was a past member here and didn’t appear to cause problems before. So if anything, my actions were lenient with her. But it’s funny how suddenly when theirs money exchanging hands, then the views change dramatically.

What money exchanging what hands??? Veronica has NEVER purchased a geckos from me. She purchased a gecko from someone else, it was a leo I had produced. I was interested in seeling a picture because I wanted to see what he looked like now. It had nothing to do with money.


Like I have said before, some of the posts I made on your site were in defense of my friends and fellow herpetoculturists that you said were bad people to do business with STRICTLY because they are members of fauna.

I think you need help Mario. I am not just saying this to be funny or to be mean, I am serious. You should seek help from a physician as you are ill in the noggin. Get help and forget about faunaclassifieds and all of the rest of this, concentrate on making yourself well. I am being sincere.

Good Luck.

 

[HerpVenue]

concentrate on making yourself well.

I am thinking the same thing.

There is something not right with his head. (my opinion)

I sincerely hope he gets help.

It is bad to "laugh" at someone who seems ILL

It is either he is really ill.
Or he just belives his own lies that he makes up in his head.

Isn't it some kind of disease when every other word out of your mouth is a lie?

 

[robin d.]

pathological liar comes to mind..... and boy oh boy he spells worse than me.

hey kelli ya know since you dont have 47328473247324712309 animals and kids and a husband and la LIFE i dont think you have anything better to do than go and troll mario's site... please go tell him hi and please give him the finger for me LOL

 

[dwedeking]

All I can say is .... "Gollum"

"Our precisoussss message board, they are not friendsssss, they want our prescioussss messssage board."

LMAO

 

[E2MacPets]

Dan,

ROTFLMAO

Kelli,

I agree completely.


Background info:

You know why Veronica and Rakell never got along? Because Veronica felt Rakell was asking too much money for her animals and decided not to keep her name on Rakell's waiting list (which is good, since she'd still be waiting....)

Rakell of course blamed us here at Fauna for scaring away her customers.

So if we're going for conspiracy theories that Mario loves so much, maybe his attempts to befriend Veronica were purely to regain a customer for Rakell?



Mario,

Please take the advise on these forums to heart. You need to take a sincere step away from this fantasy you have created and find a professional to help you where you seem incapable of helping yourself.

 

[veronica]

Oh mario....if only you knew how many times i had my tiny violin out every time you went on and on about what was posted here about you. Do you think i cared one bit about all that garbage?
In one ear and out the other.. I dont have time to get involved in all that mess. I told you dozens of times.... why do you care what anyone says or does on another board..
The thing with Rackell was simple. SOmeone who collected fat tails was asking about prices and I simply said i thought they were way over priced. I said i too was just a collector and he and i were posting on your board trying to help each other find a nice fat tail at a good price "we" could afford.
It snow balled from there. After that I never discussed the price of any fat tails i found on your board rather that guy and i talked about it on messenger.
As for the thing with Kelli... she cleared that up. I just stated where I got my male. I said he was from Hiss.com stock....actually I was not even accurate its Hiss.net
You said i was promoting her site...well geeeee mario. i didnt even get the link right..... someone break out the bamboo stalks and start beating me!!! ouch... oh wait... i like that hehehe
Mario.... grow up please?
This back and forth nonscene got old long ago... first with all your complaints that your dislexic and people pick on you for your poor spelling.....well my sister is dislexic and has won spelling b's...go figure.
Seems dislexia makes you "see" letters backwords...doesnt affect your ability to think about how a word is spelled.
Hell i have ms and my brain knows that much.....
Furthurmore Mario... last I looked I wasnt banned from this site..... and unless they changed the laws around here... I still have freedom of speach and the ability to use my freedoms. I choose to read and post here when i want as i want unless people here who own fauna say otherwise.
If you want to ban me on your site fine go ahead....After you pulled that crap with Kelli it tried to find out how in my settings on your place to remove myself but couldnt..
So do me a favore and just delete my membership.
I dont have time for your childish games. I have 3 kids and a husband to deal with. Ummmmm wait.. make that 4 kids I dont need another one.
Oh by the way, i didnt bother reading through every detail of your post about me. As usual you run on and on and zzzzzzzzzzzz
oops sorry fell alseep there.... where was I? oh yeah.... you bore me Mario!

 

[JungleHabitats]

Hmmm

well i started reading the ranting of Mario .... Hey that could be the name of a biography for him ...

He seems to have serious issues , some of the likes we as the general public will not be able to comprehend anytime soon (thank god it could be contagious)
Daniel where did you get that picture of mario??? hes uhmmm very handsome lil fellow comparedto the way i had him pictured in my head.
does this fool have animals ? do you think he has anytime for them as paranoid as he is ? i bet they are even scaredof there keeper when he goes on these tangents. poor lil creatures having to be owned by such a delusinal mind(sp) well

Hey Mario when you read this say hello to the voices in your head for me

 

[WebSlave]

Veronica, obviously Fauna has snared you as another cult victim. Mario's razor sharp logic, his unassailable truth and openness, nor his arms open in genuine friendship could not save you from our clutches.

My thoughts are YOUR thoughts Veronica. By the power or my mind alone I am forcing you and everyone else to come to this site. And I am reaching 20 to 25 new victims every day as they get caught up in my spell. It is fruitless to resist. You WILL be assimilated.....

LET THE LOVE BOMBING BEGIN!

 

[veronica]

Oh noooooo I feel myself being drawn in..
The force is strong! I can ... no i can't.... oh noo i can't resist.
The mind melt is now starting!
Oh i've lost all sence of logic!

 

[JungleHabitats]

excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me Masssster

can i have more koolaid please ? my cup runnith dryith!

 

[veronica]

No kool aid for you my son.....but you can benifit from a good mind melt
a mind melt a day keeps mario away
oops oh no im getting so childish now..do forgive me.
I was dawn in to the dark side.

 

[HerpVenue]

As far as directly about Rich, Im not sure if I ever brought Rich’s name up to here. It’s quite possible I have, but definitely not in the context of all the time if I did like her post relays it as.

Kinda weird that he says he does not talk about Rich Z or at least not that often.

But Rich's name is plastered all over his shi.......stuff

 

[Steph Scranton]

OOOOOOO

a love bombing........weeeee what do I do?????????

Veronica...you are getting sleepy........you want to play on fauna and only fauna..............hehehhehe....join us and be boycotted....

 

[veronica]