Its amazing at the shelf life this ass has.
I think I have to maybe say a few things.. I saw my name on it.
I decided to "help" Chris without knowing anything about the BOI, I was somewhat aware of the death of his brother..but having been in this business since 88' I had that one played several times. So it didn't catch my attention.
He spilled it to me about BOI by accident. I decided to not look into it as deeply.
Chris, to me was someone that needed money and was broke. In my opinion, if you live in Florida and you have had both hands bitten off by rabid sea turtles you should still be able to make money. IF you are in this hobby.
I did no research and had NEVER paid any attention to his post on TTTF. I made a joke about trading some milk froglets to him for an album he found at a yard sale. He got me to give him my number and he called me. I felt I could profit off of him and he could lower his debt. It was business.
Chris talked about a lot of this, he chatted about how you guys made it into something it was not, how it was a death that frig'd it up.. etc, etc. I think I felt like getting him to see it as a screw up and something he could fix was the main goal at first. I just wanted him to see it as a business and not as a game. I dont need to hear the pro's and the con's of doing this.. I understand, but I felt like it was a chance for him to rise up and count himself as a member of the hobby.
I guided him a bit and he filled me in with a lot as well, the whole time I would ask, "Did you get him paid off?" "Dude..he is almost done, I'm like right there..honest."
It was a mistake, I tried. I found out, by him, that he was collecting the moss and cypress knees from state parks, he told me it was his friends property at first. He had permission..I believed him. Why? Because I allowed myself to start trusting him. Or, I was blinded by the fact I was making a profit. Another mistake.
He tried working out all these big deals and would call me in the middle of the night freaking out, trying to get me to chip in on this or that. I wouldn't give him money but had been trading him with frogs. Well in the end he got me.
I saw it coming, no doubt. But was looking for better. I thought he had a spine someplace and that he would see that he could make a living and actually be thought of as something legit.
I don't blame the Mods over at TTTF, I do think it looked like he got special treatment because so many of you knew he was scum and wouldn't give him the time. But he followed the rules as well as the rest of us AND he was erased many, many times. He complained to me a lot about how the Mods were against him. So any thought that he was treated with love and respect or anything else above kicking the dog in the face, is wrong. The only issue I had with TTTF is the whole erasing the threads that exposed him. I had said that before about other members as well. If we jump on and act like idiots it should be edited, but left. I have never agreed with the whole erasing thing on TTTF. They know my opinion about that.
I dont know if my final act on Chris was what made them say enough, OR maybe it was, maybe it was in conjunction with a swing of members to one side. I never let people know that I had been doing business with him and that he treated me well, I was NEVER given free stuff to make a public statement, I would kick him any time he did something stupid on the forum or even in his life, I ripped him to the point of tears a few times. Anyone who knows me on that thing knows that I will expose the stupid stuff and make fun of it. I could just be a joke to most of them, who knows. But I really dont care. I like the way I handle things.
So.. We all know that he is ground filler, to some hole not yet dug by a person who owns a shovel and may have not yet even met him. There is no other end for him but a bad one. Enough said. He wont pay me, wont even respond to my emails etc. I spent a few thousand bucks with him and helped him on several things. But in the end he has proven that he is worthless. He buys a few frogs from the guy up the street and jerks a new person when ever and where ever. He has to make up family members, make up friends..make up their deaths just to add depth to his own life.
No one expected anything else from one who had been neuterd by his own parents at a very early age. They are not dead, they just didn't want anything to do with him.
Mac
But I do want to add one more thing to what I said in pm and to what Lucille is saying here. 
