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Mike Greathouse [you decide]

I would still like to know who Roger Jolly really was/is since that anonymous person also caused quite a commotion on this site.
I have my hunch but I doubt the person would admit to being that alternate personna.
 
Where do I stand here? I respect Mike a whole lot, he has been awesome on this site (other user names aside). I have seen his animals in person and never have I heard of any customers having issues with him. From everything I have read, I do not believe he had anything to do with the DDOS attacks. There is only speculation, which at this point is not enough for me to accept as facts. With all the many people who have come on stating how much they dislike Fauna, I have speculations of my own that do not include Mike.

Mike, as I read your admittance to creating the Shrillomn user, I wondered if that includes the other users even though you stated they were not created by you. I guess all in all it really does not matter much to me. As I pondered this, I am reminded of those on-line dating services, even the ugliest people will lie about their own looks and employment. Face it, we do not know everyone behind their user names, I don't know how many here I have PM'd back and forth, yet I will never see, and I consider them friends.

As much as we may not ever want to admit it, everyone here has done something stupid in their life that they wish they could forget about or even turn back the clock and be able to erase such stupidity. no one is immune
from life. The time to become the bigger man occurs not when we can forgive others for their offenses to us, but to admit to wrong doings and respect the loss of trust from others and try to be better from that time forward, knowing that trust will never be regained.

Not to make a personal issue out of this, but if Mike has an animal that I want, I will not even think twice about buying from him. This thread will be forgotten by me. We all have friends that others do not like, one of those facts of life. As such, I can move on.

Bobby has stated his opinion here and I greatly respect him, sure he may be quick to push the big red button, but he has been right many times his passion for outing scammers is is not a bad thing. Shrap always has a post in threads like these to bring a great balance to the mix, I greatly respect him also. Laura and Bryon, I see them as family, I trust their recommendations. Rick, there is a man who I know will tell me the truth when I ask for it. Chuck, well if I ever needed a laugh...So many others that make this website great.

This site is a huge melting pot, some people are a touch of pepper, some are sugar, others just water. What Mike did was not his best moment, but I don't think lynching is needed in this situation. Call me too forgiving, but that is the way I like to live my life. We have our differences here, there were some I did not like at all and had some heated exchanges, but after talking to them, I put that dislike aside and enjoy their involvement, heck I even enjoyed meeting them in person.

Thanks for reading my two cents...
 
Junkyard said:
Where do I stand here? I respect Mike a whole lot, he has been awesome on this site (other user names aside). I have seen his animals in person and never have I heard of any customers having issues with him. From everything I have read, I do not believe he had anything to do with the DDOS attacks. There is only speculation, which at this point is not enough for me to accept as facts. With all the many people who have come on stating how much they dislike Fauna, I have speculations of my own that do not include Mike.

Mike, as I read your admittance to creating the Shrillomn user, I wondered if that includes the other users even though you stated they were not created by you. I guess all in all it really does not matter much to me. As I pondered this, I am reminded of those on-line dating services, even the ugliest people will lie about their own looks and employment. Face it, we do not know everyone behind their user names, I don't know how many here I have PM'd back and forth, yet I will never see, and I consider them friends.

As much as we may not ever want to admit it, everyone here has done something stupid in their life that they wish they could forget about or even turn back the clock and be able to erase such stupidity. no one is immune
from life. The time to become the bigger man occurs not when we can forgive others for their offenses to us, but to admit to wrong doings and respect the loss of trust from others and try to be better from that time forward, knowing that trust will never be regained.

Not to make a personal issue out of this, but if Mike has an animal that I want, I will not even think twice about buying from him. This thread will be forgotten by me. We all have friends that others do not like, one of those facts of life. As such, I can move on.

Bobby has stated his opinion here and I greatly respect him, sure he may be quick to push the big red button, but he has been right many times his passion for outing scammers is is not a bad thing. Shrap always has a post in threads like these to bring a great balance to the mix, I greatly respect him also. Laura and Bryon, I see them as family, I trust their recommendations. Rick, there is a man who I know will tell me the truth when I ask for it. Chuck, well if I ever needed a laugh...So many others that make this website great.

This site is a huge melting pot, some people are a touch of pepper, some are sugar, others just water. What Mike did was not his best moment, but I don't think lynching is needed in this situation. Call me too forgiving, but that is the way I like to live my life. We have our differences here, there were some I did not like at all and had some heated exchanges, but after talking to them, I put that dislike aside and enjoy their involvement, heck I even enjoyed meeting them in person.

Thanks for reading my two cents...
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I have been trying to find a way to respond to this thread and I think Michael just said it for me. I feel the same way about all of this and couldnt agree with you more. Thanks for your input!
 
Jim O.
I want to thank you for posting something that I can agree with "lock, stock, and barrel". I typed three posts with very pointed fingers at various times in the last 48 hours, before my brief watered down one, having deleted the ones I had not the temerity to post. Right now I'd make a Doubting Thomas look like a bobble-head yes-man. No "Kumbaya" being sung in my household.
 
Suncoast Herpetological said:
Personally, whether Mike is one or all three of the entities mentioned, I couldn’t care less. His seven year tenure on this site helping folks with questions, supporting this site when the owner did not and his all around positive influence and willingness to voice his opinion when needed far outweighs any such paltry infraction that some of you want to read into posting under an alias.
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I don't really know Mike except for seeing him at shows.

But I did think that it was only the BOI here that had a real name rule for posting?? So how does using a screen name violate any rules and create an issue as to being a Bad Guy??
 
Lloyd Heilbrunn said:
I don't really know Mike except for seeing him at shows.

But I did think that it was only the BOI here that had a real name rule for posting?? So how does using a screen name violate any rules and create an issue as to being a Bad Guy??
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http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=482223#post482223

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=478073#post478073 (I found the bit of misdirection in this one most distasteful as he tried to point toward a respected site member.)

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=469367#post469367

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=469016#post469016

Those are just on the ID that he admits to, not on the ones that he is still lying about. There is more to this though. He came and intentionally disrupted the site and when confronted with it, he lied about it and continues to do so. His obsession with this site and with harming it is extremely disturbing and makes me wonder what else he might be capable of doing.
 
Ok, so it was indeed used in the BOI. My bad.

But it is hard to believe such an obviously fake name was not dinged at the time for violating the "real name" rule
 
I don't think he's a bad guy - but I believe the ToS in general stipulate that you may not have more than one user account. I could be wrong - but that's a pretty standard ToS.
 
Lloyd Heilbrunn said:
Ok, so it was indeed used in the BOI. My bad.

But it is hard to believe such an obviously fake name was not dinged at the time for violating the "real name" rule
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It may have been once or twice but how does one "prove" that it is fake? I don't recall Rich asking me for my Drivers License or Passport when I registered. Since Shrillomn was never a paid member there was no verification.

FunkyRes said:
I don't think he's a bad guy - but I believe the ToS in general stipulate that you may not have more than one user account. I could be wrong - but that's a pretty standard ToS.
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Nope, not a rule here. Again, a person can have as many accounts as they like (in theory) but why do so unless to troll or otherwise skirt the rules? You should look up these other users like Shrillomn, Slegehammer, Walk of Life, Wuss Pulldick, etc, and see how they interacted with each other and with others. Like I said in an earlier post, the degree of pathology exhibited by that much effort aimed at disrupting a site with which you have become disgruntled is unsettling at best.
 
Lloyd he got dinged on the BOI a few times , I know I hit him at least once, I was cleaning up some PMs the other day and came across this. My wanring to him and replies to each other. Randy

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Lloyd Heilbrunn said:
Ok, so it was indeed used in the BOI. My bad.

But it is hard to believe such an obviously fake name was not dinged at the time for violating the "real name" rule
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Shrillomn was being watched. And the mistakes that would display his true identity awaited. That takes time. And as has been displayed, time bore the fruit that was expected along with the other evidence that mounted from the additional false registrations.

I felt that those personas were getting the perpetrator rather worked up, and there was an EXCELLENT chance that while worked up, mistakes would be made. Not only in the obvious IP matches, but also in the total bulk of proxy IPs that would in themselves point the finger at someone. One or two IPs don't really tell you much. Dozens of them, however, CAN, when you have multiple registrations, and even ONE of them can be positively identified and then linked with the others with NEAR matches.

Mike just screwed up in not knowing when to quit, IMHO.
 
I haven't had time to read this full thread yet, so please forgive me if this has already been stated and/or ruled out or whatever.
While each cable modem will only have one IP address assigned to it, if you're running a wireless network that you haven't secured for whatever reason (you'd be amazed how many people don't know how to do this), anyone with a wireless receiver can use it if they're nearby. They will, in turn, then be using your IP address.
I know this to be a fact because it's happened to me, and it happened to a friend, who's business was practically ruined by someone impersonating her as a revenge tactic. Thankfully all that I suffered was some embarrassment but my friend had to fight long and hard to clear her name.
Not saying that's the case here. If it were one "alter" I'd probably give the benifit of the doubt, but more than one isn't likely at all.
 
myname2149 said:
I haven't had time to read this full thread yet, so please forgive me if this has already been stated and/or ruled out or whatever.
While each cable modem will only have one IP address assigned to it, if you're running a wireless network that you haven't secured for whatever reason (you'd be amazed how many people don't know how to do this), anyone with a wireless receiver can use it if they're nearby. They will, in turn, then be using your IP address.
I know this to be a fact because it's happened to me, and it happened to a friend, who's business was practically ruined by someone impersonating her as a revenge tactic. Thankfully all that I suffered was some embarrassment but my friend had to fight long and hard to clear her name.
Not saying that's the case here. If it were one "alter" I'd probably give the benifit of the doubt, but more than one isn't likely at all.
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Well, that depends..... I have a wireless network here, but if I take my laptop out to where my vehicles are parked, maybe 60 feet away from the router, I lose the signal. Unless someone has some super sensitive receiver on their laptop, NO ONE can get close enough to tap into my network without being glaringly obvious about it. Now, if I lived in an apartment complex and had a wireless router, yes, I would feel it reasonable to secure it. But anyone living in a single family dwelling, would most certainly notice the strange vehicle parked in their driveway SOLELY to be able to tap into their wireless network. Plus, I would have to say the chances of someone doing this to be able to implicate Mike here as being the source of the multiple false registrations has to be some slim as to be difficult to swallow.

Is it really reasonable to think that someone is out to get Mike in this manner, trying to emulate the style and substance of the Shrillomn persona via another false registration or three? First off, how would this someone have known that Shrillomn WAS Mike? The most probable suspect would have to be someone whom Mike had confided in with this confession. Which, I would think, would be a VERY short list. So it would have to be someone Mike HAD confided in, or someone who just guessed at the fact that Mike was actually Shrillomn. And even if they did guess (or worse, one of Mike's confidants), why would they go to such lengths to try to link other troll-like personalities to Mike? It would have been much simpler to just expose Mike as being Shrillomn and be done with it without all the additional complications. For just a guess, why in the world would ANYONE go through all the trouble? For someone who actually KNEW, who likely had to be a close friend, why betray him like that?

Sorry, it just doesn't wash.

The simplest solution seems to be the most likely one.
 
I know, I couldn't even reply that night. I think Mike may have went just alittle to far. If I was in Chuck's shoes I would be kinda pissed at Mike. No matter what You can not theaten a Person not to post.... If You post about this topic I'll dig into Your past an post about You. It's not something I wouldn't have done. I try to be as Rightous as I can be.

I doing Great Chuck how are You? Its been awhile indeed are You still wearing Your fleece robes at night... hahaha Chuck and Wes I think he was targeting You guys and it back fired on Him. And to think He could of had a V8
 
Yea, it is not something many of us would have done. And after thinking long and hard on this, I still see it as 110% wrong. There is no way to say any of his actions were right, so if it is not right, then it must be wrong.
 
I think there are REAL bad-guys that we should be pursuing here on the BOI. Kinda like when cops sit and wait for speeders when there are robberies going on downtown.
 
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