Bad Guy Mike Matson (Mike's Phat Frogs) sold me a WC snake as CB

[Fangthane]

tsk tsk tsk

Looks like we have another Lynn Rafferty on our hands - albeit a laughably ineffectual one. Giving out someone's (long-dead) phone number and encouraging his "friends" to "mess with" me. Pretty cowardly and Bush league, if you ask me. I seem to have struck a nerve. Truth hurt a bit?

Guess those "friends" are just as worthless and dishonest as the individual they're supporting; especially considering one guy's big talk led to me still sitting here with an empty inbox and no invitations to go myself. Must've been "too busy," or something like that. Hmmm...lack of follow-through seems to be a bit of a recurring theme among certain people and their associates. Birds of a feather, and all that, I suppose.

 

[Black Adder]

My Facebook auctions close on Saturday night. I'll forward money over to tom once I receive payments.

Are you seriously asking this community to believe that a man of your supposed stature and reputation in the hobby cannot find $500 to repay an age old debt?
Maybe you are not the hotshot you would like to think you are........

 

[Lucille]

Boy everything is a threat on here..... It's already on Facebook. Maybe, you should tune into my page. There is already interesting commentary about you.

All you do is stir the pot on here. No name random joe with nothing else better to do. Good for you.

I'm done commenting to you. I don't need to sell on fauna. Haven't placed an ad in years. The owner of fauna graciously allowed me back on to dispute the false claims that seem to run wild on here. Too much input is allowed by those that have nothing to do with the transaction. I'll be sending some money to tom this weekend.

It seems as if Tom's claims are true, not false.
Mike, it is the ultimate cowardice to run away to FB with info that can be edited and removed instead of facing claims here, where they cannot. From time to time there may be false claims here, but then the party accused disputes them showing the truth. He does not run away behind his mother's skirts and stick his tongue out, which is to me the same as running to FB instead of manning up here.

 

[jrsexotics]

It seems as if Tom's claims are true, not false.
Mike, it is the ultimate cowardice to run away to FB with info that can be edited and removed instead of facing claims here, where they cannot. From time to time there may be false claims here, but then the party accused disputes them showing the truth. He does not run away behind his mother's skirts and stick his tongue out, which is to me the same as running to FB instead of manning up here.

Manning up to whom on here? People that have no life and have posted on threads 3+ times a day for the last 12 years? You believe you are the reptile cops and it is amusing to myself along with everyone else that no longer uses this site. You have chased more people away from fauna than you think.

I don't know a single person on here that has any influence in the hobby. None of you produce reptiles to any scale that makes it noticeable. You may not want too. How about you check your fauna ego and read about yourselves elsewhere besides this site. Others really don't like you much.....

As far as black adder. No, I don't at this time. I am opening up a pet store and have 3 import shipments coming in this month. Paying Tom isn't something I planned on but since Francine did not I will. It will come in pieces but it will be taken care of.

Dan graybeal, you want to stir the pot on here and involve yourself in this when you are not apart of it. I can annoy you on other levels.

I'm done commenting on this thread as the OP has not said a word for many pages. It's just like every thread on here. Carried out for hits by members that have no part of the transaction. If you are that board there are lots of arts and crafts that can consume your time.

Please continue to stalk and follow my Facebook page lots of new stuff coming this year. It's going to be exciting

 

[jrsexotics]

Bored

 

[Lucille]

You've made two posts just to divert attention away from your Bad Guy thread. Way to go on not discussing the real issues.

 

[Lucille]

read about yourselves elsewhere besides this site.

People who go elsewhere to talk down about anyone here are as much cowards as you are for talking about the current issues on FB but not here.

 

[jrsexotics]

People who go elsewhere to talk down about anyone here are as much cowards as you are for talking about the current issues on FB but not here.

The real issue in this thread has been talked about and the OP has stopped messaging. It seems yourself and a few others are getting this thread off topic and putting it on a different issue. Which is not allowed correct? I'm not sure. I'm just a newbie with my 130 post next to your 13,000

 

[WebSlave]

The real issue in this thread has been talked about and the OP has stopped messaging. It seems yourself and a few others are getting this thread off topic and putting it on a different issue. Which is not allowed correct? I'm not sure. I'm just a newbie with my 130 post next to your 13,000

Sorry about any misunderstanding you may have about how the BOI is intended to work. But the topic of this thread is YOU.

 

[Fangthane]

Dan graybeal, you want to stir the pot on here and involve yourself in this when you are not apart of it. I can annoy you on other levels.

Don't flatter yourself. The obvious idiocy and desperation behind your pitiful little smear campaign is good for a chuckle, but sadly, that's about all the response it'll ever elicit from me. Cracking fat jokes is about all you and yours can muster. I've seen countless scammers use the very same diversion tactics countless times; you're as ineffective as you are unoriginal.

For all the big, tough talk that you and your ilk love to spew, I think this little tidbit says all that really need be known about your kind:

I finally tricked him in to meeting me by having someone else set up a meeting to purchase a snapping turtle which was illegal to sell in Washington State. He ran like a baby to a waiting getaway car before I could catch up with him.

I'm sure choosing to surround yourself with obsequious FB yes-men who simply hope to get something out of the deal has worked wonders for your ego, but when it comes time to stand alone - whether online or in real life - we see what some people are really all about. The inherent fear behind the high school safety-in-numbers clique mentality is as funny to me now as it was twenty-something years ago when I was high school.

 

[jrsexotics]

These stories amuse me.

 

[jrsexotics]

Here is a start for Tom.

More to come when auctions close tomorrow.

As far as everyone else on here including Dan and Lucille. I'm going to keep producing the best frogs out there along with worlds first. Enjoy the sidelines and stay tuned.

This thread is about a import Madagascar hognose that a first time reptile keeper became disgruntled over after it died 40 days later.......

 

[Snake-Queen]

This thread is about a import Madagascar hognose that a first time reptile keeper became disgruntled over after it died 40 days later.......

I still believe that you did tell her it was CB, you are the type that will do and say anything to make a buck; that much is obvious from your words and claims against you.

You are one of many in the industry, who prey on the inexperienced to fill your coffers. Instead of owning your mistakes, you deflect and attack those who dare to question you. Which is typical Bad Guy behavior.




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[jrsexotics]

Right Melissa

Because I care so much to make a $20.00 profit. Everyone else that purchased import snakes did not complain at all. I had 7 Malaysian mangroves there, several Malaysian red tail green rat snakes and a few other species that were imports. Not one complaint on those. Only complaint was from someone who did "6" months of research on an animal. Posted pics on Instagram saying its shed and ate for her. Then wants to complain about it dying 40 days later. Especially, after a vet tubed it dewormer.

Every animal I advertise as CB, wc or ltc. Stock my Facebook please... You will see.

I have a few bad guy fauna threads. I don't really worry about them. I ship over 600 times a year and vend 10-15 shows. If I'm really that bad why am I still in business? Why are my pacman frogs some of the most demanded morphs in the world? Not everyone will be pleased and I get that. Especially, with the volume of animals I sell on a yearly basis.

I refuse to refund this hognose snake. Especially, after no contact for 39+ days. Not one message on the animals status to a random email saying these things went wrong, it died and I want a refund or I'm posting a fauna bio.....

I do not produce snakes... The ones I get in are generally imports to fill the extra spaces on my tables.

This was a learning lesson for her as well as myself.. Now, I am going to take the time to write out a receipt for each WC or farmed animal sale. That way I don't have to waste my time with he said she said arguments on this site.

I still believe that you did tell her it was CB, you are the type that will do and say anything to make a buck; that much is obvious from your words and claims against you.

You are one of many in the industry, who prey on the inexperienced to fill your coffers. Instead of owning your mistakes, you deflect and attack those who dare to question you. Which is typical Bad Guy behavior.




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[Lucille]

I am a great seller.

Thousands and thousands of sales and never a legitimate complaint.

I ship over 600 times a year and vend 10-15 shows

typical Bad Guy behavior.

Melissa, it was such a good phrase I borrowed it. Hope you don't mind.

 

[Fangthane]

Looks like we have another Lynn Rafferty on our hands - albeit a laughably ineffectual one. Giving out someone's (long-dead) phone number and encouraging his "friends" to "mess with" me.

Yeah, I sure am whining about someone calling a number that I haven't had in quite a while. Blatant dishonesty or sheer stupidity? There's an exceedingly strong case for either one, or both. You decide.

If someone can't comprehend or honestly describe even the little things...well, it just makes the OP's already-plausible claims that much more likely to be true.

 

[jrsexotics]

See if I post a gun emoji it's taken as a threat lmao. ������

You guys are a joke. I wish the cops theme song would play everytime you post.
Post a pic of some payment towards tom and it goes unnoticed. Exactly what I though would happen.

I wonder what it's like being 40,50 and 60 years old being the fauna police wasting your life away online everyday over stuff you are not apart of�� And an industry in which you make no difference in. Must bother you a lot.

Enjoy your day. I have more frogs to produce. Have to fill orders. Love this free advertising.

 

[juliasara]

Caught it yet another lie... Wonder what bs story he's going to cook up to try and cover that one. Lies are like lays potato chips, you can't just have one! Or is it Pringles, once you pop you just can't stop! Either way he's just giving everyone who reads these threads more reasons to believe he's lying yet again!

 

[Fangthane]

Either way he's just giving everyone who reads these threads more reasons to believe he's lying yet again!

Indeed. When someone shows a blithe willingness to lie about something for which there's absolutely no tangible gain, it sure helps put comments like the following in the proper perspective:

It's not worth my time to lie for a $20.00 profit about an animal being CB vs farmed or imported.

 

[juliasara]

You guys are a joke. I wish the cops theme song would play everytime you post.
Post a pic of some payment towards tom and it goes unnoticed. Exactly what I though would happen.

You can't seriously expect everyone to praise you for paying back money you stole from someone?!?! I'm sure it wasn't unnoticed, but you never should have taken the money in the first place and since you did you should have given it back a long time ago. Don't expect pats on the back, biscuits and to be showered with Praise for returning 10% of the money. Especially when your on here insulting people, getting caught telling more lies and incouraging people to harass other members and posting their phone number publicly. What about the other people you owe money to? Have you attempted to pay them back yet? If I recall correctly what you owe Tom is substantially smaller then what you owe others, so in the big picture you only paid back like 2% of the debt that has been documented on this site. If someone paid you back 2% of what they owe you would you shower them with Praise? I doubt it.