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Bad Guy Mike Matson of Mike's Phat Frog is a scammer !!

Lucille said:
Now you are just throwing phrases out. You aren't a messenger, you initiated some thoughts about Mike possibly having an illness.
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Actually I was commenting on this quote with my own thoughts on the subject:

"Originally Posted by 312Herps View Post

From fake profiles to arguing with themselves as a fake person with their real profiles (serious signs of schizophrenia ) in order to get people to believe their story ..."

So I was not the one to "initiate the thoughts about Mike possibly having an illness", as you put it; in actuality I was supporting the statement made by you against Mike having schizophrenia while stating he fit the profile of a sociopath (easy enough to research). Was just doing the math as his behaviors, as listed in all negative communications regarding him, follow a very distinct pattern.

It doesn't negate the fact that Mike Jr. is responsible for his actions.
 
I meant to add, as sociopaths are known to have a conscience, albeit a weak one, and therefore are well aware of what they are doing and the possible consequences. Therefore saying that they were mentally impaired will not fly. Socios know the difference between right and wrong, they simply don't give a damn.
 
4FineFrogs said:
Actually I was commenting on this quote with my own thoughts on the subject:

"Originally Posted by 312Herps View Post

From fake profiles to arguing with themselves as a fake person with their real profiles (serious signs of schizophrenia ) in order to get people to believe their story ..."

So I was not the one to "initiate the thoughts about Mike possibly having an illness", as you put it; in actuality I was supporting the statement made by you against Mike having schizophrenia while stating he fit the profile of a sociopath (easy enough to research). Was just doing the math as his behaviors, as listed in all negative communications regarding him, follow a very distinct pattern.

It doesn't negate the fact that Mike Jr. is responsible for his actions.
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You in fact initiated a different illness, a sociopath in fact is an illness which includes personality disorder. The ICD9, soon to be ICD10, even has a diagnosis number.
If he is seriously mentally ill, he may not be responsible. Legal insanity, duly proven, is a defense to responsibility.
I don't think y'all should have opened this can of worms, but you did.
 
Hmm... I know there are plenty of people like Mike running around, and a lot of those are in jail, so they didn't get to cry illness there. Either way I don't think anyone who has been burned by Mike are going to let him off... he needs to be out of the industry, period.
 
At least anyone researching him before they buy will get a serious heads up and something to consider before spending their money...
 
Lucille said:
You in fact initiated a different illness, a sociopath in fact is an illness which includes personality disorder. The ICD9, soon to be ICD10, even has a diagnosis number.
If he is seriously mentally ill, he may not be responsible. Legal insanity, duly proven, is a defense to responsibility.
I don't think y'all should have opened this can of worms, but you did.
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You might find this interesting
<a href="http://law.jrank.org/pages/7670/Insanity-Defense-Psychopaths-Sociopaths.html">Insanity Defense - Psychopaths And Sociopaths</a>
 
Is he a Sociopath or worse?

I do not think Mike is mentally ill. He likes stealing from anyone and everyone that he can. It is a game with him. He thinks that he is smarter than the rest of us. Bad idea, since he really does not know what most of the people he steals from look like. My experience with him was classic. He was scared to death when he found out I was not the buyer for his illegal snapping turtle, but someone he he had just cheated. He still had a hard time figuring out who I was since He was not expecting me to show up. Not very bright. I would be very surprised if he ever followed through on any of his threats since he only shows you his rear end as he is running away!
 
tcp2 said:
I do not think Mike is mentally ill. He likes stealing from anyone and everyone that he can. It is a game with him. He thinks that he is smarter than the rest of us. Bad idea, since he really does not know what most of the people he steals from look like. My experience with him was classic. He was scared to death when he found out I was not the buyer for his illegal snapping turtle, but someone he he had just cheated. He still had a hard time figuring out who I was since He was not expecting me to show up. Not very bright. I would be very surprised if he ever followed through on any of his threats since he only shows you his rear end as he is running away!
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Have to say I would have paid good money just to see that! :thumbsup:
 
Soooooooo then basically we're just sayin he's an A-hole who lies, cheats, steals and sells sick frogs. Ok I can deal with that. XD
 
this guy's name seems to be surrounded by trouble wherever I see it appear! He sounds like a classic bully, threatening everyone but running for the hills when someone actually shows up in person.
 
snared99 said:
Im really not understanding how this is all part of the original order of frogs??? Why does his father play any part in this??
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This everyone is Pat Kline of Luxurious Leopard Geckos, This piece of :censored: was on facebook trying to get my address and phone number for Mike and Ariel by pretending to purchase a crested gecko . When he realized he'd lose the deposit money $100+ , he completely backed out on the gecko and wrote me some long winded BS story about how I'm paranoid because of Mike and Ariel. Rest assure you wanted to get involved Patty , you're involved now :shootfoot . Let everyone know what type of shady business you like to be involved in and the shady people you help. :thumbsup:
 
Oh yeah, I called Pat Kline about being in cahoots with Mike as well. After that he immediately (probably out of panic) sent a bunch of Facebook messages to people saying that I was lying and that he has no connection with Mike. He is one of Mike's groupies from what I've seen.
 
If im so close and in "cohoots" why haven't I purchased a frog from mike in 4 months???

And Rick, I have kept and bred many geckos in the past 15 years, cresteds being one of them believe it or not. I was interested in one of your geckos, and was going to purchase. Your psychotic behavior over this deal left me with a bad taste in my mouth over going through with it. It is not uncommon to make your own labels and supply them to the dealer, I get a good price on shipping. You could have given me any address for the label, I wouldn't have cared. I don't know you and I don't know Whoever Ariel is.

Yes I have dealt with mike before, dozens of people have distributed frogs from him. Doesn't mean we are in cohoots...lol David you didn't call, anyone out, you were butt hurt I made a comment about your facebook page. I do recall the public was not on your side in that thread.

I really have nothing to do with this dealing, so leave me out of it.
 
Why haven't you purchased frogs from him recently? Do you think his frogs are terrible quality? Do you think he's a shady person? You have defended him before and for that reason I am highly skeptical of you having nothing to do with him.
 
Herpguy11 said:
Why haven't you purchased frogs from him recently? Do you think his frogs are terrible quality? Do you think he's a shady person? You have defended him before and for that reason I am highly skeptical of you having nothing to do with him.
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Nice try but my dealings with mike are none of your business, this thread is not about me. Don't try to flip my statements for your agenda. Honestly I do not care if you believe I have anything to do with him or not. I know I run a up and up business and have nothing to hide
 
Another update , and poor Mikey still hasn't sent any money. Guess he just stole my $2,250. Mike just remember when you cross so many people you just never know which one of them finally got fed up. You toss around threats like you're a tough guy when in reality you're an insecure spoiled child who hasn't had his :censored: kicked yet. I'm not saying it'll be me , but Mike you're in for a serious lesson one of these days cause that's the way karma works. I'm just glad I spoke up so that in the future when that little girl you have realizes the piece of trash her father is and how he scammed and stole from so many people and hopefully she grows up to be nothing like you. It's a shame it seems like I'm doing more to educate your child than you. :shrug01:

Now all people have to do is Google the term "Mike Matson Frogs" and see your true business ethic . Soon enough it will be the first thing they see :yesnod:


"Men do not despise a thief if he steals to satisfy himself when he is hungry; But when he is found, he must repay sevenfold; He must give all the substance of his house."
 
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