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Miscellaneous indigo stories discussions topics

wish....

lists.

Thought this might generate a little interest. Whats on everybody elses wish list ? Mines pretty short and is a toss up between a very few snakes. Most of you know mine already, I'm curious to know what everyone else's wish list is. What and why.
 
Wish list....

Ok. Here's MY short list. I'm going to keep my options open for awhile (a year or two or three). I need to unload my E. T. Ridleyi first, to make room for whatever I decide on, since I'm keeping my collection extremely small (two large, MAYBE one small type). Here goes:



1. Mussurana (very interesting and gorgeous animal). Has the extreme feeding response I like.

2. False water cobra (extreme feeding response).

3. Black headed python (very unusual and nice snake. Only boid that interests me).

4. Female Eastern indigo (to mate with my male. I know dry fans will encourage me to go HERE, AND I may).

5. Maybe one of the african house snakes (for small variety. Some have nice colors/patterns and easygoing temperament)

6. Or one of the grey banded kings (for small variety.)



Any input, ideas, suggestions are more than welcome.
 
Great choices

All are great choices, and you can add the exceptional feeding response to both the Aspidites as well, as both subs harbor an incredible feeding response.
I'm curious though, why no Pseudaspis cana??

Jeff Snodgres
 
Thane has good taste in snakes! I have indigos, cribos, and false water cobras ..and I too would like to get hold of some mussuranas, and the guy who mentioned pseudaspis cana...well, a pair of those too... even down to the house snakes I agree with him.. funny that he lists those in the same breath with the others...but he's right in there as far as cool taste...

where I diverge probably is that I like frigging watersnakes!
Is that weird or what? I think me not being driven over to Bill Chases' to buy some watersnakes he had when I was a kid visiting florida, and my parents not wanting to wait around while i tromped around in the swamps while I was there had a adverse effect!! I was traumatized!! (heheh) now I can't get the damn things out of my head.. I have a pair of red mangrove saltmarsh, and a bunch of the big florida browns ..taxispilota.. and a lone diamondback male...needs a mate ..but i'm in bloody canada..fat chance eh?

anyway, cheerz ppl
 
Nerodia

Nothing strange about enjoying Nerodia spp., as they are a diverse and fascinating group snakes to work with.
I find it strange that folks seem to be "warming" up to Nerodia spp. only recently...
As for an interesting indigo story, if you take a look at the photo of the mating pair of D. m rubidus (Mexican red-tail indigos) I posted to the photo forum that is actually the female pinning the male. I have all six of the available Dry subs, have been working with Drys for over 20 years and this was a first for me..
Here's the pic, in case you didn't see it within the photo gallery..

Best regards,

Jeff
 

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More wish lists.....

:cool:

C'mon everyone. It'll get a lot of other misc. discussions going too. I'm interested in seeing what's on everyone elses wish lists too.
 
Well...

I have 5 of the available subspecies of Drymarchon , so the only thing on my wish list would be the 6th...couperi . Since Georgia just doesn't seem to want to issue permits for them, I guess that one will stay on my wish list. I kept them years ago, before they were protected and after when I lived in a state that allowed it.
 
Add the impossible....

or seemingly impossible to attain caudomaculatus to your list Gerald. I'm not aware of ANYONE that has those yet. I'd put 'em on my list but . .. . well, just don't think It'd ever happen :) Not sure how we'd go about even getting them.
 
Both D. caudomaculatus and

D. m orizabensis are on my wish list as well.. I do know of a German keeper with D. m orizabensis specimen, so there may be hope yet, as I have remained in constant communication with him!!
Another on my wish list would have to be Leptomicrurus scutiventris, the pygmy coral snake of the Amazon..

Jeff Snodgres
 
pygmy coral...

Is that one of those with the extremely bizarre ring pattern arrangement ? I forget where, but I've seen some pics of some specimens that the ring color order just didn't look right. Would be a very interesting animal.
 
Yeah, well......

orizabensis and caudomaculata would be nice, for sure. But, to my knowledge, there are none of either in the U.S. caudomaculata is only known from the holotype specimen that W. Wuster described, and maybe one or two others that were collected during that study.

orizabensis is supposedly very similar to rubidus with the main difference in appearance being that more of the venter is light colored, as I recall. Hell, rubidus is almost non-existent in the U.S. I think that Jeff and I have probably half of them in our collections.

Another cool one to have would be margaritae...only known to science from 1 (one) specimen.
 
That's correct..

Both D. caudomaculatus and D. margaritae are known only from holotype specimens, so far as I am aware...
However, I do believe W. Wuster made mention of having to use extra caution in his lab not so long ago, as he mentioned having a species of cobra which was phenotypic of caudomaculatus. From that statement, I was under the impression he had collected mors "live" specimens, other then the holotype, which was found DOR..
I am upo to 4.5 adult and sub-adult rubidus now, with another 1.0 on the way. As Gerald mentioned, I believe we hold the vast majority of such specimens.

Best regards,

Jeff Snodgres
 
Yeah, I thought I remembered reading that but wasn't positive. It's interesting to me that this species occurs in such close proximity to two other species of Drymarchon which have been thoroughly documented in that region (Venezuela, I think?), yet no one has described them until now. How many others could be in Central and South America in very limited ranges and haven't been described yet?
 
I'm not sure he's found anymore. Maybe he has??
The close up pic of the head may be a new one but, the pic of the coiled snake near the top of the page has been there a while & that definitely appears to be a live snake to me. :)

Eric
 
That picture of the live one, and it looks quite alive to me, has been around a while. The page does confuse me a bit as the animal pictured doesn't look like Road Kill to me.

Doug Taylor
 
Here's the scoop. The one that Wolfgang found in 1997 was a road kill. It was the holotype. He subsequently was allowed to examine two additional live specimens in a private collection in Venezuela. He personally did not collect any live specimens. He said that local Herpetologists did not really consider them unusual, which would lead one to believe that they are not terribly uncommon in that area.

There are photos on his website of a live specimen and of the road kill (holotype). One of the photos clearly show the distinctive head scalation for the species.

Pretty cool stuff!
 
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