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Inquiry Mitch Behm (global captive breeders)

Dennis Hultman said:

To be fair to James, you already have care sheets under the information tab on your website. It states click link for care sheets where it brings you to another site. So, it wasn't that big of a leap to assume the "Animal" tab was for something other than care sheets.

Also to be fair to you, it seems you just copied all the different species you could find to put under the tab. It's understandable that you didn't know that nobody would need that care sheet. When your uneducated on what you're writing and coping, mistakes happen.

James, I don't think he actually had any idea to the status Tiliqua adelaidensis and probably thought he could find and sell them. Just like the fact that he was trying to illegal sell rubber boas in that old thread. He just doesn't fully educate himself about what he his selling.


I would agree with that to some extent but when you have the subject of thread caring on the discussions and trading barbs with others it allows a lot of insight. After all, the thread is about him and how he responds to others I would think that would be somewhat on-topic.

It gave me some insight. Particularly the post about undercutting all the breeders, flippers and importers by selling the cheapest hatchlings you can buy.

I've been around long enough to see many come and go. It is always the guy with the loudest mouth bragging about how much he sells (volume not quality) that is around for the short term and the dollar is the bottom-line not the hobby. It could just be the people bragging usually stretch the truth a little. Regardless, it just personally rubs me the wrong way.

Again to be fair here, I don't think Mitch intended anything illegal or deceitful. It was just ignorance. After-all, when it is about the dollar and telling everyone what a big deal you are, you have to have that exciting webpage with all kinds of information on it you know nothing about. Who has time to research anything? :shrug01:
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Dennis, you make some very good points, and as always, you have a great insight into the situation. It is much appreciated , and I hope my information was of some relevance to the BOI as well. Thanks again.
 
Captive Global Breeders implies some captive global reptiles in captivity being bred in order to sell captive bred offspring.

In regards to the condros you sold so cheaply, is it not true that they are not actually captive bred but harvested as they hatch in areas that have simply been screened off to keep the adult snakes from escaping back into the wild? That would seem to imply that no actual human interaction ever takes place in their reproduction. No feeding, no watering, no watching females determining when they are ready for males nor introducing said males to said females.

Is that the process used for the babies you sell as captive bred?

What other species do you, at your facility, breed? In what numbers?
 
If I'm not mistaken, Wes, Bushmaster actually does breed their adults in captivity. Since they do the vast majority of GTP importing, I assume that's who Mitch is doing business with. If not, my entire post becomes invalid. Being captive bred by Bushmaster does not make them world's better than captive hatched babies though, other than for the possibility of some selective breeding taking place. The fact of the matter is, very fragile neonates are not given the attention they need to thrive and then are shipped across the globe.

It is better than WC animals, there's no disputing that. But it is a long shot from CB snakes from a private breeder. So while he is probably technically not lying by calling the snakes captive bred, I still think it's pretty misleading. He needs to be doing what the responsible chondro dealers are doing, calling them Bushmaster babies or whereever he's getting them. That tells most chondro keepers all they need to know and he can quickly educate people not versed in them.

Chris
 
Wrong again. The name implies offering from top breeders around the globe. Let me explain a distinction between FB (at the smaller farms) and CB (by my breeder). I'm sure that you never set foot in Indo, but I sent an executive of a major charity to visit and inspect a number of the largest breeders in Indo. We narrowed our choices to three and selected the best.

Wes correctly points out the process of the typical FB GTP. One can easily identlfy the older of these animals by the signs listed below.

I'm sure that everyone has seen pics of Bushmasters Farm in Indo, a beautiful indoor facility. My supplier is many times larger. Now, for anyone that has pruchased GTPs from me over the last several years; whether hatchlings, Yearlings or Subadults, has noticed no sign (scarring, increased mortality, internal or external parasites..) indicating an origin that Wes describes.

As to your request for species that I keep, thats none of yours or anyone else's business. While we are closed to the public, many have visited us by appointment only.

Soon. import from Indo will be halted, then there will be no question as to the number of native Indo species that we will produce.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to present our model.

Mitch
 
James,

Bushmaster isn't even in the top five of Indo breeders. Even though I don't care for Kamuran, he does a first class job of breeding, with quality to rival any CB in the US. There is a misconception that, for some reason, a breeder outside of the US is inferior to his counterpart in the US. We all know that the industry only started in the US in the 60s and 70s.

Mitch
 
I'll take specialization and selective breeding over mass production and the stress of importation any day of the week.

Chris
 
Behmfamily said:
I sent an executive of a major charity to visit and inspect a number of the largest breeders in Indo. We narrowed our choices to three and selected the best.
Mitch
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Here, on the BOI, names are needed.

I'm so glad you were able to SEND and executive of a major charity to Indonesia to do your work for you.

What charity? What's the name of this executive? Does this person have any experience with reptiles?

I suppose merely quantifying the number of species YOU personally produce would be asking too much?

It's not about the quality of your animals or your satisfied customers. It's about true representation, of which I, as you so kindly acknowledged, the King of FWCs, am in favor of.

So, how about truly representing what you've been sugar coating?
 
Gee whiz mitch, what's up?

You've gone from answering posts within minutes to not posting in an entire day.

Did something happen? Someone ask you something you don't want the public to know the truth about?

What's the scoop mitch? Why so quiet?
 
Sorry there mitch, I have no desire and no head of large, but unknown, charities to SEND in my place.

I'm just curious how high on the crap meter what you says rates.

Who did you SEND to Indo? Does this person know anything about reptiles or was the 'tour' they got good enough for you?

I would like to know what you, or your crew, personally breed. If you're producing all kinds of stuff that's pretty cool. But, if you're pretending you produce all kinds of stuff, that's pretty crappy.

That's also a pretty lame excuse since you're here within minutes when someone you don't dislike says something good about you. I suspect you don't post more because you don't have anything to post about and you don't like having your backside handed to you when you get caught lying and boasting and pretending.
 
Wes,

I don't believe that I've ever seen any large breeder list their complete collection or what they produce. Now, I know that the high-end ball python breeders keep their production confidential, so as not to drive down the market price. Not unlike deBeers does with diamonds.

This year, as a reasonable request, I will begin to post pictures of clutches of some of the more exotic items that I work with. Interested parties will find the pics in the Gallery of the Global Captive Breeders website. Currently, we have paired up the following:

Monitors
Yellow Phase, Yellow, Blue Tree, Black Tree, Green Tree

Pythons
Timors, Bismarck Ringed, Papuan Olives, Aussie Olives, Aussie Waters, Indo Waters, Centralians, Diamonds, Cape York Spotted, Childrens, Stimsons, Burms, Red Bloods, Gold Phase WLPS, Retics and various Balls.

Boas
Costa Ricans, Nicaraguans, Bolivians, Pearl Islands, Solomon Island Ground and Trees, Papuan Trees, Dumerils, Vipers, Sonorans, Tarahumarans, 6 species of Sand Boas and various Columbian Red-Tail morphs.

Tortoises
Sulcatas

Thanks and stay tuned,

Mitch
 
Behmfamily said:
Wes,

I don't believe that I've ever seen any large breeder list their complete collection or what they produce.

Mitch
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I don't believe this has anything to do with the question I asked. You, and others like jerry kruise, do this a lot.

If they were all jumping off bridges into shallow water, would you follow them there as well or would you think for yourself?

I appreciate the answer, such as it was, but still have little faith in much of what you say simply because you don't really do much in a forthright manner. That speaks volumes.
 
I ran into these post couple of days ago and it bought back some frustrating email conversations I had with Mitch last year. If I said he is one of the biggest liar in this industry, I won't be too far off. After reading these posts, I emailed Mitch and asked what happened and I got a response so I decided to post them. He threatened that I would be out of business if i posted...so that is a challenge I have to accept. I wonder how long it will take for him put me out of business....lol. Here are the posts. they are long but you can judge what kind of a liar he really is. He just seem to make up things as he goes. Most egotistical, self promoting liar I have ever "not met." If he really are breeding all these reptiles, with his egos, he would have posted 1000s of photos on line bragging. And what's with him telling everyone and posting that he works at major wall street firm. If he did work there in a major role, we would have seen his business card by now. Enjoy as I am trembling with fear that he is going to put me out of business now and I can't think straight....what a nut!

Oh please. You are the biggest liar in the business. I know almost everyone in the industry and they laughed when I mentioned your name. They all basically said you talk big but never delivers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:29 PM, "Behm Family" <[email protected]> wrote:
And you should be out of the business. Post all you want, crybaby.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ty
To: Behm Family
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: hello

Really. I will post all our conversation on fauna and let others decide. You are a real jerk

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2012, at 5:52 PM, "Behm Family" <[email protected]> wrote:
String you along? I haven't communicated with you in almost a year. I'm the kind of person that doesn't want to deal with anyone who loses 50% of the animals that they bring in. Stop bothering me and find someone else.

Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: Ty
To: Behm Family
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: hello

Mitch,

You don't have the courtesy to tell me after stringing me along? What kind of person are you?

Ty

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2012, at 9:39 AM, "Behm Family" <[email protected]> wrote:
Ty,

I discovered that you were supplying the major chains, so I've been selling to smaller distributors.

Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:33 PM
Subject: Fwd: hello


Mitch,

This is the last email I sent you and you have ignored me after talking big. At least have a decency to answer what is going on after all you hype. I will be posting all our conversation on Faunaclassified soon....I would like some answers from you before I do that.

“Mitch, Aug 5 2011
Just wanted to touch base and find out where you are with getting both bearded dragons and whites tree frogs?”

Ty





Mitch, Aug 5 2011
Just wanted to touch base and find out where you are with getting both bearded dragons and whites tree frogs?

Ty





LOL...OK Mitch. Any projection on when?





-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:02 amMitch,
Subject: Re: hey
Not quite there yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:14 PM
Subject: hey


how are you doing with bearded dragon production? are you ready to ship yet?

Ty


OK...thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 10:36 am
Subject: Re: BD
Working on it
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:29 AM
Subject: BD

Hi Mitch,

When do you think you will be ready to ship your first shipment of bearded dragons? We can start with smaller number like 500 a week....if that works for you.

Thanks,
Ty





Well....the problem is that unless I am sure that I will have them and when...I can not offer them to my customers.


-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Whire's Tree Frogs
I was thinking several thousand a month from Indo. If I start a CB program, as many as you need.

Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: Behm Family
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: Whire's Tree Frogs

I will find out and let you know. How many a week can you supply?

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 18:10:14 GMT+00:00
Subject: Whire's Tree Frogs
Ty,

I will be receiving a large supply of Whites. If I raise them here at Global, how many would you want on an ongoing basis?

Mitch





Sure.
wow....they need to be 5gms or larger..Can i try 1000 first?

Thanks,
Ty



And what weight do you need them to be?

Mitch
----- Original Message -----

To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: bearded dragons


any news on how many you will have?

Thanks,
Ty
Close to 6,000. How would you want them packed?

Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: bearded dragons


any news on how many you will have?

Thanks,
Ty


-----Original Message-----
From: typherp <[email protected]>
To: behmfamily <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2011 1:51 am
Subject: hello
Mitch,
Just wanted to touch base and find out where you are with getting both bearded dragons and whites tree frogs?

Ty



Thanks....just let me know what you have and I will see if thats something I want. I am always looking for rare lizards and tortoises. You can go to my facebook page ty's lizards and ty park and see what i keep and breed.

ty




-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons
I'll work on getting you a date. I'v been swamped with demand for my animals. I usually have large quantities of White's and White-lipped tree frogs from Indonesia, that I use as feeders. Leopard Geckos only sell for a few dollars each, so I usually stay away from them.
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: Behm Family
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons

Can you give me a date so that I can plan? I supply petsmart so basically leopard geckos, whites tree frogs etc. What do you have. I also collect rare tortoises and lizards


Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 16:55:14 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons
Next hatch is partially yours. What other species do you need in quantity?

Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons


Hi Mitch,

Any news on when you will have bearded dragons for me?

Thanks,
Ty



-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons
At the next hatching, I'll have about 6,000. I thought that you were in SoCal, sorry.

Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons

My address:

Ty Park
Lasco Inc
33900 Bermont Road
Punta Gorda FL

How many do you have now!




-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons
5-7 gms. Why ship, I'm an hour or less away? 15 Frwy at 74(Central Avenue)
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons

what size are these and will you ship if i paid shipping?





-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 10:48 pm
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons
$20 at 500, $17.50 at 750 and $15 at 1,000. These prices are for pickup in Lake Elsinore.

Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons

what is the lowest price for 500 lot?

thanks,
ty





-----Original Message-----
From: Behm Family <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 8:52 pm
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons
Ty,

Thanks for getting back to me. At that price, its better for me to post them locally myself.

Thanks anyway,

Mitch
Global Captive Breeders
Lake Elsinore, CA
cell: 949-246-3073
www.GlobalCaptiveBreeders.com
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Wanted: Wholesale Lots of Baby Bearded Dragons

I am paying 15 if they are 5gms or 5 inches or larger. I can take 500. where are you located? do you have a phone number i can call you at?

ty





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We're beginning to offer normal Beardies in 250, 500 and 1,000 lots. What do you
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Experience with Mitch Behm

I purchased a juvenile farm bred Biak Green Tree Python from him at the Tucson Reptile show for $200.00.The snake is a picture of health,tame and feeding on rat fuzzies.It is still yellow and is 6 months old.I am extremely pleased with my purchase and will buy from again.Sincerely Richard Gates
 
Ty from reading your posts I still do not see anything bad about Mitch. I have met hi
m personally. He has always treated me with respect. You shouldn't admit supplying to Petsmart. I used to work there. Often their animals came in unhealthy or dead. From reading those posts you just looked really pushy.
 
snakegirl123427 said:
Ty from reading your posts I still do not see anything bad about Mitch. I have met hi
m personally. He has always treated me with respect. You shouldn't admit supplying to Petsmart. I used to work there. Often their animals came in unhealthy or dead. From reading those posts you just looked really pushy.
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Sanna, you are a little late as Ty's post is 7 months old. But since you brought it up, I don't think Ty sounded pushy at all. He simply sounded like a guy that had an honest business proposition and was being strung along by a big talker. And what does admitting he sells to Petsmart have to do with anything? Ty was upfront and honest from the start, and Mitch continued to string this guy along for 2 months after Ty informed him that he supplied to Petsmart. So, if Mitch had a problem with it, he should have said something then. I also find it ironic that a reptile importer is all the sudden concerned about where his alleged baby Bearded Dragons end up going. If he actually did produce 6000 babies, are we all supposed to believe he is making sure each and every one of those babies went to good homes? Give me a break. It is much more likely that he just did not have the goods. My suggestion to Mitch is to try to make your numbers more believable next time.
 
You sure are of yourself aren't you. I have no interest in purchasing imaginary or illegally obtained animals. However, I do have interest in calling out those that try selling them, and I will happily support others with that cause. So, not so not Jealousy, but rather satisfaction in doing my small part to help others avoid scammers when I can.
 
snakegirl123427 said:
Ty from reading your posts I still do not see anything bad about Mitch. I have met hi
m personally. He has always treated me with respect. You shouldn't admit supplying to Petsmart. I used to work there. Often their animals came in unhealthy or dead. From reading those posts you just looked really pushy.
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And I have met Ty and you can't find anyone more Passionate about the herp industry. His reptiles are all very well taken care of.
 
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