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[mjcballpythons]

-_- i'm done repeating myself. Goodnight.

 

[Pasodama]

No need to repeat yourself.
There were quite a few people who saw that a shipment was received and, in very short order, those snakes were placed up for sale.
No quarantine for them. Nope, not for them.

 

[Shaun33]

I have a question. You say you have a 90 day quarantine. So let say you bought 2 snakes and month later you buy another. Do you put them in the same rack? If so, does the 90 days start over again.

 

[lillyorchid]

Exactly ^^
I highly doubt any QT has been practiced or implemented in her collection, in her animals for sale or any of the animals in Andy's store that are permanent or for sale.

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

Aside from flipping snakes, you also bring snakes home from the shop to ship them per your videos. That ruins any "QT" you may have had going.

 

[beballs]

I think pretty much everything is out in the open at this point on what Mindy is doing wrong. What i'm more concerned about is where is all the constructive criticism to help this girl get back on the right track!? Rather than bashing her for what shes doing wrong, why dont we try and help her get into doing things right. Clearly what is going on with Andy is a whole other matter, maybe even for a whole Other BOI thread. Although i will say what he spewed was completely uncalled for. Mindy, in my honest opinion once you have the funds and are able to it would probably be best for YOU to end that partnership. Right now you need to rush to get those blood tests, show everyone here what the diagnosis is, then start getting your business on the right track. If you are saying you are doing a 90 day QT that is what you have to offer people. If you're doing otherwise, don't misrepresent what that is. I'm not sure if youre still trying to get things under wraps to start your own breeding project, but in this hobby you have to have a lot of time, and even more money. Next time you feel in your gut something is wrong with an animal, you need to take it to the vet. Your business revolves around how you represent them, and how you more so represent yourself. After this thread you are going to have your hands tied with both.

 

[lillyorchid]

Colletta, I hear ya. I think everyone else does too. The thing with that is, we all have tried to help her and show/tell her how to do things correctly, from needing to get test done, to QT everything she has, no new snakes, no snakes sold. We also have told her correct husbandry and other info that she has done wrong, or has told beginners, which is bad/wrong info. We have tried. She doesn't take any of it in to consideration, but in fact fights us, tells us we're all wrong, that she knows what she is doing, and blocks us from her pages on facebook.

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

Collette, if you read through this entire thread, there were a large amount of people who provided advice, suggestions, recommendations, constructive input, information, directions, links, etc. Myself included. Every last bit of it was met with sarcasm, immaturity, denial, refusal, arguments, excuses, lies, backtracks, conflicting statements, or tantrums/dramatic exits. We have all been trying since this began to get through to her and open her eyes -- that was the entire point. All of it was being thrown at a brick wall and went nowhere.

 

[mjcballpythons]

Dude my husbandry is fine.

And yes my quarantine rolls over like that, but not all qt snakes are in the same room.

That Boa was still at my house at that time of shipment (i was told a few days ago she is doing great)

This is what I mean, even after I have "done the right thing" and posted the results, you'll find something else to continue this bologna.

Also, if you guys were actually being genuine and not typing your "help" to look like a tough guy and pretend that I don't know what you're telling me already, and going around EVERYWHERE sharing this BEFORE I HAVE A CHANCE TO PROVE MYSELF, i would feel differently about fighting you when you over help. A few people have emailed or PMed my from this thread offering me suggestions or information and not acting like a d*ck. And I listened to them. But as long as you are acting this way with me, don't expect me to give in to you. None of you here have controlled this in a professional matter, neither have we.
Now, again, WE PUT BOTH COLLECTIONS ON LOCKDOWN until we get the test results back in. What more do you want? Why can't you stop for a bit, let this finish unfolding and be completed when I get the test results in. Its 7am, i think the vet opens at 9. I will get a call very shortly after that for an appointment and I will let you know when it is.
Heck I'll even see if i can get the appointment date and time emailed to me just because i have to prove my every breath to you.

 

[mjcballpythons]

Idk why every single person is all "I highly doubt" and "i bet" and "i dont think..." seriously like wth?! COME HERE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. stop guessing that everything i do is wrong when you do not have a clue! Not only do we say what we mean, but we OFFER YOU TO SEE FOR YOURSELF. As andy put it, we stand in an open field with no armor letting you people shoot at as. Yet you make those assumptions about how i care for my snakes. Unbelievable!

 

[juliasara]

Has anyone here actually emailed Andy and Mike and explained the seriousness of this post? All I saw were mindys emails or messages to them. When I was 18 I was hard headed and thought I knew it all and anyone who told me I was wrong I took it as an attack and got defensive just like mindy. When I would talk to people about a situation I would make myself look like the victim which is what I'm pretty sure mindy did and oml told them what she knew would help her claim of being a victem. I'm not a snake person and had I not read this I wouldn't know how serious this situation is. Thanks to everyone who did a top notch job of explaining the disease in question as well as other possible issues. Honestly when I started out I wish i had some many experienced smart people trying to help me! I know it's hard to put down the defensive walls but this is a great opportunity I wish mindy could see that.. someday she will look back and want to kick herself many times for resisting everyone's help. I know Mike he's a family friend and I'm sure he would probably come here to defend his name and his store if he knew the whole story not just what mindy edited out to make her victem story believable.

I checked out the youtube link and the newest shipment. Even if I didn't know the story here the description makes me think she's covering her buns because she knows something is wrong with the snake.. I've shipped out tons of reptiles and never once made a video to show the animal was healthy and alive before being shipped. I'm a skeptical person but to me it just seems like she's already trying to cover her buns before the snake even leaves her house.

Just for the record I don't know mindy, have never met her, and don't have anything against her. I don't want her to take anything I say as an attack because it's not. I wish her the best and truly hope she is successful. There is still time to make this all better so it doesn't hang over your head for the rest of your career. Trust me i did stupid things when I was younger and if I hadn't worked my butt off and learned from what I did I would be working a million times harder now that I'm an adult. If you dont handle and fix this now it's going to be a million times harder to make go away every minute you wait. Time is ticking I hope you make the right choice and don't hide from this. Your future self will thank you!!!

My very first post in this thread! I know there's a lot to read so I found it so you can clearly see I tried being cinstructive and nice! As far as I'm concerned everyone else was too.

 

[mjcballpythons]

Just in case we forgot what's going on. I shared this in my group last night too. In fact, both business pages will have a link to this thread in the description so everyone can make their own educated decision on the matter before they choose to buy from us.

 

[mjcballpythons]

Oh I shared that on my Instagram too.

 

[JCCS]

Here is the problem with your logic, Mindy. You're coming from a place where you think that everyone should take your word for the gospel. In the real world, an assertion that someone puts forth requires proof. It isn't so just because you say it is. This becomes even further so when a person (such as yourself in this case) has been repeatedly caught in lies.

 

[juliasara]

Do those really sound like the "slanderous" words of someone who should be "blacklisted"? I only posted a few times here but was never rude or mean and never made anything up that mindy said. If I posted it it came directly from Mindys mouth. Hardly seems fair for me to be on mindys public list! Like I keep saying and mindy keeps ignoring THIS IS NOT PERSONAL! If I were going around selling geckos that I knew had been in contact with one with crypto I would be in the spotlight like mindy is. I can't speak for every one here but personally I don't know mindy and the only problem I have with her is that she's potentially giving the hobby in general a bad name. It's situations like this that all the animal activist groups feed on. And use against us to make sure they make it illegal to own our exotic pets. And the fact that she could possibly spread some disease and wipe out someone's entire collection. I'm not here for mindy and I'd still be here no matter who was on the hot seat. I'm here to protect the right to own animals and to protect the hobby I love more then anything in this world (other then my human child)!

 

[mjcballpythons]

What does everyone not understand about THAT WAS A "NOT ALLOWED IN THIS GROUP" list?! Reread the caption to that list. I did NOT say "do not do business with these people." EVER. Calm your twisting my words, please. You're making it unfair for me. oh wait already there!!

 

[mjcballpythons]

And to say that I don't care about anything but the money.
Disgraceful.
If I didnt care about the snakes I wouldn't make sure they are eating consistently before i sell them. If I didnt care I wouldn't be constantly worried about not getting to the shop to check on them. If I didn't care I would refuse to pay for rescues - when a snake needs rescuing i will and HAVE overpaid for it, get them to good health then place them with someone i trust who has taken the time to come to me and learn from me. (Im sure that will get a response from someone!! Heh *rolls eyes*) if i didnt care about the animals i wouldnt get attatched to them and get to the point where i do not want to sell them, and cry when they do sell.
If we were so careless, why are we always donating to local charities and me supporting USARK with every snake sale i make?
Talked to andy last night and he informed me that our latest donation brought $9k to a girl who died of cancer and had leftover medical bills for her family to pay.
We buy EVERYTHING from local people, take trades, consign animals for them, and we take good care of them.
As far as being called a "flipper," i'm a business. When i buy snakes wholesale, the seller knows i am buying with intentions to resell.
Also, how is buying to sell any different than breeding to sell? Either you can use what's already produced and help someone out by giving them money and more room, or keep breeding and only sell your own production and not help anyone else out with their breeding business.
I buy from multiple local people so that they too get something out of the hobby. I support them and they support me.
I don't see why that is so wrong.

 

[juliasara]

Ok to be fair this is what you said about your list. By you posting people's names and saying yes to it being a black list that tarnishes every name on the lists reputation with anyone who sees it. And what makes it worse is you accused me of doing all kinds of horrible things I never did. I really can't understand how you don't grasp that you did every thing you accused everyone on the list of when you posted it. The spoiled brat attitude will get you nowhere in this industry. You really need to stop lashing out at everyone who's been nice and encouraging. Even if it means reading what you've typed 10 times before you post it you need to think long and hard about what you are going to say before you say it. Like I have said before every time you post and it's not the test results you bury yourself deeper. I also think your not doing yourself any favors by being on Facebook. If your truly sincere about earning a good reputation you really need to siget off Facebook and not go back for at least a month or 2. Spend that time doing productive things and feel free to record all the good things you've been doing and when you come back in a few months post it for the world to see. I'd be happy to have you throw tons of evidence of the great things you've done to better yourself and your business in our faces. I know I don't want to see you fail or go down in flames. I've said it before and will say it again I honestly wish you the best. If you dont stop having temper tantrums, lying and blaming everyone else I really don't see a bright future for you. The self destructive childish behavior will get you absolutely nowhere!

 

[mjcballpythons]

Uh blacklist for the group. Big difference. I didnt tell anyone not to do business with anyone on that list.
So once again, stop twisting my words around.
You think you know me. Haha.

 

[mjcballpythons]

LOL my WORD you people are pathetic. I am really getting a good laugh out of everything you say. i didnt know it was possible for people to be this way. oi!